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  1. o.k. i'm not sure if i'm realy going to go through with this purchase
    because it'll probably cost me a fortune to get is shipped to italy
    where i am now, but i'm thinking of building a new unicycle, with a 20"
    big apple tyre and a set of 127mm qu-ax cranks.

    the idea is to have a unicycle that is nice for freestyle and can handle
    some trials too.
    since i'm spending the summer on the road i do't want to take two
    unicycles.

    when i saw him at bjc in derby roger said that the big apple wasn't good
    for trials due to its thin side walls,

    do you think its completely unsuittable for jumping and stuff or do i
    just need to run it at a higher pressure?

    anybody try it ?

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  2. I haven't tried the BA 20" but the Primo The Wall or Maxxis Hookworm
    would be fine for your application. They are great for freestyle and
    super tough and stiff.

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  3. this one:
    http://tinyurl.com/2zefa
    was built for a similar multi-purpose
    (but probably not for trial)

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  4. The Maxxis hookworm seems to be super tough to me and would be my
    choiceof the tyres I've tried, but The Wall tyres are nice too.

    Would ordering from municycle.com be cheapish? It's £11 or so to the UK,
    so I can't imagine Italy being much different.

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  5. U-Turn said:

    I haven't tried the BA 20" but the Primo The Wall or Maxxis Hookworm
    would be fine for your application. They are great for freestyle and
    super tough and stiff.

    I don't know about the other tires, but be aware that the Hookworm
    20x1.95 doesn't like being ridden at low pressure. The sidewall is
    thin and lacks the stiffness of its bigger brothers (like the 26x2.5
    Hookworm). Still, its a nice tire.

    Ken

  6. You can get qu-ax stuff through roger you just gotta email him and ask
    just so you know.

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  7. Quoted message said:

    it'll probably cost me a fortune to get is shipped to italy where i am
    now

    Quoted message said:

    You can get qu-ax stuff through roger you just gotta email him and ask
    just so you know.

    Unless Roger is in Italy, I don't think it'd be much use! 😄

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  8. You might want to try the 'Twenty-G tire' (http://tinyurl.com/ytlfp) by
    '3G Bikes' (http://www.3gbikes.com/). It might be a good compromise
    between high volume for trials and smoothness for freestyle. I haven't
    tried the tire yet so I don't know. I do have the Hoggy-G on my 24"
    urban wheel and I like the tire.

    The Twenty-G is a 20" tire and would require a 20" rim rather than a 19"
    trials rim.

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  9. wobbling bear said:

    *this one:
    http://tinyurl.com/2zefa
    was built for a similar multi-purpose
    (but probably not for trial) *

    nah, i realy want a 20" but thanks anyway.

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  10. john_childs said:

    *You might want to try the 'Twenty-G tire' (http://tinyurl.com/ytlfp)
    by '3G Bikes' (http://www.3gbikes.com/). It might be a good
    compromise between high volume for trials and smoothness for
    freestyle. I haven't tried the tire yet so I don't know. I do have
    the Hoggy-G on my 24" urban wheel and I like the tire.

    The Twenty-G is a 20" tire and would require a 20" rim rather than a
    19" trials rim. *

    yeeah, these tyres look even better than the big apple 20"

    i've emailed a couple of european 3g distributors to get a price.

    i've come to terms with the fact i'm not going to find a 19x2.5 slick so
    the 20" rim is kind of taken for granted.
    i've been looking for a big fat slick tyre for ages.

    with 125 cranks and a slick tyre, i'll have a lovely street uni.
    still got to decide on a frame.

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  11. U-Turn said:

    *I haven't tried the BA 20" but the Primo The Wall or Maxxis Hookworm
    would be fine for your application. They are great for freestyle and
    super tough and stiff. *

    i already have a unicycle with a primo "the wall"

    but i want something a little bit more like a trials tyre, but slick.

    the big apple 20 is nice and fat and slick.

    the idea is to build a unicycle thats happy doing trails or freestyle
    without too much of a comprimise.

    hence splined cranks and a fat tyre. any ideas for a good frame?
    i'm looking for something without too much clearance over the tyre,
    cheap(i never broke a frame yet no point in using titanium) and with a
    nice shoulder for gliding and 1ft.

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  12. We have one rider in our club that is riding a 20” Big Apple and using
    it as a very versatile unicycle. It fits the normal 20" rim and the
    rolling circumference is a little larger so he can actually get places.
    The lad has no trouble with grip on the clubs trials obstacles – even
    riding along an elevated PVC pipe. I can't speak to the issue of the
    sidewalls as I've heard of no troubles with his set-up. I’ve used the
    Schwalbe 29” Big Apple and if the rubber compounds are the same, as I
    believe they are, I think that the rubber is great for a variety of
    situations.

    Good luck and have fun in Italy,
    Tommy

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  13. It would be nice if thier was a multi purpose unicycle because the onza
    for freestyle isnt ideal. im going to make a trials that i can do
    freestyle on after i get some money. The Quax 125 cranks and hub and i
    want some small frame like Dm Expert but dm dont sell the frames
    seperate 🙁.

    Trev

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  14. evilewan said:

    *hence splined cranks and a fat tyre. any ideas for a good frame?
    i'm looking for something without too much clearance over the tyre,
    cheap(i never broke a frame yet no point in using titanium) and with a
    nice shoulder for gliding and 1ft. *

    What about the 'Pichlerrad' (http://www.pichlerrad.de/) Solo? I believe
    that frame is wide enough for the fat Twenty-G tire. It also looks like
    the crown is high enough to clear the Twenty-G tire. If the 20" frame
    isn't high enough you could go with the 24" frame and cut the legs down
    to get the height you need. The frame design is such that you can cut
    the legs to get the crown at the exact height you like above the tire.
    It looks like he sells the frame individually (without forcing you to
    buy an entire unicycle).

    I'm just not sure if the frame will fit the bearings used on the Qu-Ax
    hub. You'll need to verify that the Solo frame and the Qu-Ax hub fit
    the same size bearings.

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  15. john_childs said:

    *
    What about the 'Pichlerrad' (http://www.pichlerrad.de/) Solo? I
    believe that frame is wide enough for the fat Twenty-G tire. It also
    looks like the crown is high enough to clear the Twenty-G tire. If
    the 20" frame isn't high enough you could go with the 24" frame and
    cut the legs down to get the height you need. The frame design is
    such that you can cut the legs to get the crown at the exact height
    you like above the tire. It looks like he sells the frame
    individually (without forcing you to buy an entire unicycle).

    I'm just not sure if the frame will fit the bearings used on the Qu-Ax
    hub. You'll need to verify that the Solo frame and the Qu-Ax hub fit
    the same size bearings. *

    i thought about the pichler frame but i don't like the bearing holders,
    since i like to grind they'd get expensive to replace.
    i heard that you can get a pichler frame with regular tai style
    lolipops though, maybe i'll check it out. i don't know what size the
    bearing holdes are

    perhaps the pichler frame forks are the same diameter as a cheeapo
    tiawan frame, if so i could buy a cheepo 24 frame, a pichler crown, and
    cut the legs off the cheapo 24 and stick them in the pichler crown.
    according to the pichler website they even sell the crown and seetpost
    tube seperatly. for 58 € annother 20-30 for a cheapo frame and i'll have
    a reay good frame for not too much cash!

    does anybody
    here have a pichler frame that they can mesure the outside diameter of
    the legs?
    and somebody with a generic tai frame with main cap bearings? again the
    forks outside diamerter.
    and somebody with a new nimbus frame with round forks? o.d.?

    i'm kind of stuck in a forign country without all my usual resources.
    so i apreciate you guys help.

    looks like i'll be able to busk enough money to buy the unicycle in a
    week or so. so i'm feeling happy!

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  16. unicycleboy said:

    *It would be nice if thier was a multi purpose unicycle because the
    onza for freestyle isnt ideal. im going to make a trials that i can do
    freestyle on after i get some money. The Quax 125 cranks and hub and i
    want some small frame like Dm Expert but dm dont sell the frames
    seperate 🙁.

    Trev *

    i know what you mean, my first choice of frame would probably be a dm
    too but i'm not keen on buying a whole uni from him, although wills dm
    is lovely.

    i'm quite lucky on the cash front at the moment because i'm in italy in
    the summer with a contact juggling ball and a hat.

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  17. Tmornstar said:

    *We have one rider in our club that is riding a 20” Big Apple and
    using it as a very versatile unicycle. It fits the normal 20" rim and
    the rolling circumference is a little larger so he can actually get
    places. The lad has no trouble with grip on the clubs trials
    obstacles – even riding along an elevated PVC pipe. I can't speak to
    the issue of the sidewalls as I've heard of no troubles with his
    set-up. I’ve used the Schwalbe 29” Big Apple and if the rubber
    compounds are the same, as I believe they are, I think that the rubber
    is great for a variety of situations.

    Good luck and have fun in Italy,
    Tommy *

    could you ask your local big apple expert about how the tyre is for big
    drops and sidehops? is it pumped up high pressure of soft like a regular
    trais uni?

    thanks

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