A minor off...

Front wheels and wet roads are always a touch and go thing when you're not settled into riding in the wet. My two offs where I actually removed inconvenient amounts of skin were due to water induced lack of traction. And you earned that breakfast and coffee...they're needful after hurties.

DeF wrote:

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Glad you're ok. Oil, mud, grease .... diesel .. all sorts of muck on
roads is *really* nasty when wet.

If you lost any skin, have a look at this :

http://www.aboc.com.au/perl/tips.pl?p=roadrash

Don't listen to the old timers if they start talking about honey or
chicken gibblets or something else, occlusive dressings are the fastest
way to heal minor (road rash, 1st degree burns) skin damage.

Occlusive dressings are good, but expensive. I spent $200 bucks on them
after an OTH last year, 8 May, on descent to Akuna Bay. I faced my demons
yesterday on the same ride and survived. Good to see the RTA has now marked
*some* of the bumps and rough bits with paint - maybe in preparation for a
bit of patching, which wouldnt be before time!

I think they say use gauze dressings (regularly changed) for a few days
until the weeping/yellow fluid stops then apply the occlusive dressing for
up to a week without removal. Scabs are bad, will lead to scars, unless you
like a few souvenirs. Vaseline also recommended rather than any strong
chemicals.

see thread on rash care on
http://www.bikefriday.com/pipermail/yak/2005-March/001608.html

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Quoted message said:

DeF wrote:

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Glad you're ok. Oil, mud, grease .... diesel .. all sorts of muck on
roads is *really* nasty when wet.

If you lost any skin, have a look at this :

http://www.aboc.com.au/perl/tips.pl?p=roadrash

Don't listen to the old timers if they start talking about honey or
chicken gibblets or something else, occlusive dressings are the fastest
way to heal minor (road rash, 1st degree burns) skin damage.

On 2006-05-08, Resound (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:

Quoted message said:

Front wheels and wet roads are always a touch and go thing when you're
not settled into riding in the wet. My two offs where I actually
removed inconvenient amounts of skin were due to water induced lack of
traction. And you earned that breakfast and coffee...they're needful
after hurties.

And the best way to settle into riding in the wet is to have a few offs?

I guess I just about know the limits of my bike in the wet now, then 🙂

Last few days, the fact that I have managed to stay on the bike
suggests I have learnt *everything* that could be learnt 🙂 (OK, maybe
not snow and ice on steep descents; but the layer of wet autumn leaves
lining each corner are quite something, aren't they?)

--
TimC
"I give up," said Pierre de Fermat's friend. "How DO you keep a
mathematician busy for 350 years?"

Resound said:

Front wheels and wet roads are always a touch and go thing when you're
not settled into riding in the wet. My two offs where I actually
removed inconvenient amounts of skin were due to water induced lack of
traction. And you earned that breakfast and coffee...they're needful
after hurties.

Well, the skin loss in my case is pretty minor. I had a bit
of blood oozing through the knicks from a 3 inch diameter graze
on the upper leg. Didn't hole the knicks although they're now
a little fluffy in that area.

Forgot to mention, I replaced the front tire less than 100km
ago. I wondered if that contributed to the mishap. I've a
mate who reckons Rubino Pros are not that good in the wet.

DeF.

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Fractal said:

Occlusive dressings are good, but expensive. I spent $200 bucks on them
after an OTH last year, 8 May, on descent to Akuna Bay.

Hmm, it wasn't on a shady innocuous looking right hand corner about half
way down was it?

Parbs - who may have crashed there.

DeF said:

Well, the skin loss in my case is pretty minor. I had a bit
of blood oozing through the knicks from a 3 inch diameter graze
on the upper leg. Didn't hole the knicks although they're now
a little fluffy in that area.

Forgot to mention, I replaced the front tire less than 100km
ago. I wondered if that contributed to the mishap. I've a
mate who reckons Rubino Pros are not that good in the wet.

DeF.

I thought my skin loss was minor after I came off on Friday 28th April (10 days ago) especially as the damage was through lycra on my knee but it's still tender and scabby and I wish I had read Carl's page much earlier on so I recommend doing something to your injury rather than following the "do nothing" school of thought. 🙁

Fractal said:

Occlusive dressings are good, but expensive. I spent $200 bucks on them
after an OTH last year, 8 May, on descent to Akuna Bay. I faced my demons
yesterday on the same ride and survived. Good to see the RTA has now marked
*some* of the bumps and rough bits with paint - maybe in preparation for a
bit of patching, which wouldnt be before time!]

A large roll of mefix costs ~$17 at my local chemist.

DeF said:

Resound said:

Front wheels and wet roads are always a touch and go thing when you're
not settled into riding in the wet. My two offs where I actually
removed inconvenient amounts of skin were due to water induced lack of
traction. And you earned that breakfast and coffee...they're needful
after hurties.

Well, the skin loss in my case is pretty minor. I had a bit
of blood oozing through the knicks from a 3 inch diameter graze
on the upper leg. Didn't hole the knicks although they're now
a little fluffy in that area.

Forgot to mention, I replaced the front tire less than 100km
ago. I wondered if that contributed to the mishap. I've a
mate who reckons Rubino Pros are not that good in the wet.

Very unlikely. You just misjudged traction. It's not the tyre's fault
🙂
You *can* lower tyre pressure 10-20 psi in the wet to get a little
better grip, but for road riding, I reckon that's a waste of time.

Bleve wrote -

Quoted message said:

A large roll of mefix costs ~$17 at my local chemist.

.... or $9.90 here -
http://www.biziworks.com.au/biziworks/BiziGen?ownerID=MEDI8888&docID=9033

One 10cm x 10cm roll is probably large and long enough to look after a fair
sized club for a year.

And IMHO Mefix is better than the more expensive OpSite Tegaderm or Cutifilm
clear film dressings

best, Andrew (who wishes he did not need to know this!)

Bleve said:

Very unlikely. You just misjudged traction. It's not the tyre's fault
🙂
You *can* lower tyre pressure 10-20 psi in the wet to get a little
better grip, but for road riding, I reckon that's a waste of time.

I'm incilned to agree. Concentrating on being a lot smoother and gentle in the wet is likely to get you better results. Works for me.

EuanB said:

Bleve said:

Very unlikely. You just misjudged traction. It's not the tyre's fault
🙂
You *can* lower tyre pressure 10-20 psi in the wet to get a little
better grip, but for road riding, I reckon that's a waste of time.

I'm incilned to agree. Concentrating on being a lot smoother and
gentle in the wet is likely to get you better results. Works for me.

There was another factor: I could see a group up ahead and I
was gaining on them. I was aiming to catch them before the
end of a slight rise. Perhaps letting the competitive instinct
get ahead of me?

DeF.

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DeF said:

Forgot to mention, I replaced the front tire less than 100km
ago. I wondered if that contributed to the mishap. I've a
mate who reckons Rubino Pros are not that good in the wet.

Do some new bicycles tyres suffer from the same "moulding compound"
problems that motorcycle tyres have?

MC tyres have a waxy/greasy feel when new, it is a compound that is
used to allow easy release from the mould during manufacture. It also
unfortunately allows easy release from gripping the road if you are not
very careful in the first 100kms or so.

I mention this because I fitted a set of new tyres to my wifes bike on
the weekend, and they were so waxy I warned her to be careful with her
cornering. I'd never seen bicycle tyres so waxy. They were Conti
Contacts.
http://www.conti-tyres.co.uk/conticycle/ti%20contact.shtml

Cheers
Greg

quote='gpw'DeF said:

Forgot to mention, I replaced the front tire less than 100km
ago. I wondered if that contributed to the mishap. I've a
mate who reckons Rubino Pros are not that good in the wet.

Do some new bicycles tyres suffer from the same "moulding compound"
problems that motorcycle tyres have?

MC tyres have a waxy/greasy feel when new, it is a compound that is
used to allow easy release from the mould during manufacture. It also
unfortunately allows easy release from gripping the road if you are not
very careful in the first 100kms or so.

I mention this because I fitted a set of new tyres to my wifes bike on
the weekend, and they were so waxy I warned her to be careful with her
cornering. I'd never seen bicycle tyres so waxy. They were Conti
Contacts.
http://www.conti-tyres.co.uk/conticycle/ti%20contact.shtml

Cheers
Greg[/QUOTE]

If they were that bad, I'd be tempted to give them a very light wipe-over with some fine sandpaper.

Resound said:

gpw said:

DeF said:

Forgot to mention, I replaced the front tire less than 100km
ago. I wondered if that contributed to the mishap. I've a
mate who reckons Rubino Pros are not that good in the wet.

Do some new bicycles tyres suffer from the same "moulding compound"
problems that motorcycle tyres have?

MC tyres have a waxy/greasy feel when new, it is a compound that is
used to allow easy release from the mould during manufacture. It also
unfortunately allows easy release from gripping the road if you are
not
very careful in the first 100kms or so.

I mention this because I fitted a set of new tyres to my wifes bike on
the weekend, and they were so waxy I warned her to be careful with her
cornering. I'd never seen bicycle tyres so waxy. They were Conti
Contacts.
http://www.conti-tyres.co.uk/conticycle/ti%20contact.shtml

Cheers
Greg

If they were that bad, I'd be tempted to give them a very light
wipe-over with some fine sandpaper.

Funny you should say that; a few years ago one of my chums had a CBR600.
One day I pillioned down with him to get some new tires and had to
scrub them both in with sandpaper before hitting the road. The rear was
easy, centre stand and engage first gear. The front took a bit of time
though.
--
Cheers | ~~ __@
Euan | ~~ _-\<,
Melbourne, Australia | ~ (*)/ (*)

gpw said:

DeF said:

Forgot to mention, I replaced the front tire less than 100km
ago. I wondered if that contributed to the mishap. I've a
mate who reckons Rubino Pros are not that good in the wet.

Do some new bicycles tyres suffer from the same "moulding compound"
problems that motorcycle tyres have?

MC tyres have a waxy/greasy feel when new, it is a compound that is
used to allow easy release from the mould during manufacture. It also
unfortunately allows easy release from gripping the road if you are not
very careful in the first 100kms or so.

Not that I'm aware of. I've certainly never noticed wax on any roady
tyre I've used or fitted. Not like motorbikes at all 🙂

Quoted message said:

I mention this because I fitted a set of new tyres to my wifes bike on
the weekend, and they were so waxy I warned her to be careful with her
cornering. I'd never seen bicycle tyres so waxy. They were Conti
Contacts.
http://www.conti-tyres.co.uk/conticycle/ti%20contact.shtml

I don't have much experience with conti's, can't help you there, but
Michelin, Bontrager, Rubino, geax etc .. no wax that I'm aware of.

EuanB said:

Bleve said:

Very unlikely. You just misjudged traction. It's not the tyre's fault
🙂
You *can* lower tyre pressure 10-20 psi in the wet to get a little
better grip, but for road riding, I reckon that's a waste of time.

I'm incilned to agree. Concentrating on being a lot smoother and
gentle in the wet is likely to get you better results. Works for me.

--
EuanB

And don't accelerate out of corners by getting out of the saddle and
pumping that pedal while you're still on a lean. That one's BAD.

Tam *did that last July*