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  1. http://junkfoodscience.blogspot.com/

    It has some good articles, like:

    http://junkfoodscience.blogspot.com/2007/05/vitamins-and-prostate-cancer.html
    http://junkfoodscience.blogspot.com/2007/05/junkfood-science-special-statin-kids.html

    But then there are also conclusions I think are sketchy at best:

    http://junkfoodscience.blogspot.com/2007/05/science-of-sweets.html

    "The bottom line, is that there is no evidence — and there never has been
    — that we have anything to fear from enjoying the sweet things in life."

    I guess that's true, if you have good blood sugar control. If you don't
    have good blood sugar control, sugar is to be avoided and used only on
    rare occasions.

    --
    Bob in CT

  2. Bob in CT wrote:
    ::
    :: http://junkfoodscience.blogspot.com/2007/05/science-of-sweets.html
    ::
    :: "The bottom line, is that there is no evidence - and there never has
    :: been - that we have anything to fear from enjoying the sweet things
    :: in life."

    Well, taken in context it's true. Almost anyone, even those with diabetes,
    can enjoy sweet things in life. You can put all kinds of provisos it,
    though, but the basic statement is true.

    ::
    :: I guess that's true, if you have good blood sugar control. If you
    :: don't have good blood sugar control, sugar is to be avoided and used
    :: only on rare occasions.

    But, you can still enjoy sweet things in life....just rarely. Or, with
    exercise before/after, etc.

  3. "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Of course, this is my birthday weekend....so I plan to do a century
    tomorrow and some part of one on Sunday. So I will probably have some
    real cake this weekend!

    Roger, have a great birthday and enjoy that cake. Suz and I did our
    first lunch out today since the DX 2/14/06 and had a great open faced
    prime rib sandwich and even squeezed in some potato slices that must
    have been buttered and done over a grill. I only had a few, Suz liked
    mine better than her salad, they were great! I washed it down with
    several Miller Lites and was really surprised to find out when we got
    home that my morning FBG of 110 had dropped to 90! I just can't figure
    this diabetes out. I hope your numbers after your BD party and REAL
    cake do the same for you. Have a good one!
    Cheers, Wizzzer

  4. Wizzzer wrote:
    :: "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    :: news:[email hidden]...
    :::
    ::: Of course, this is my birthday weekend....so I plan to do a century
    ::: tomorrow and some part of one on Sunday. So I will probably have
    ::: some real cake this weekend!
    :::
    ::
    :: Roger, have a great birthday and enjoy that cake. Suz and I did our
    :: first lunch out today since the DX 2/14/06 and had a great open faced
    :: prime rib sandwich and even squeezed in some potato slices that must
    :: have been buttered and done over a grill. I only had a few, Suz
    :: liked mine better than her salad, they were great! I washed it down
    :: with several Miller Lites and was really surprised to find out when
    :: we got home that my morning FBG of 110 had dropped to 90! I just
    :: can't figure this diabetes out. I hope your numbers after your BD
    :: party and REAL cake do the same for you. Have a good one!
    :: Cheers, Wizzzer

    Thank you Wizzzer! I've heard that alcohol does that to some, specifically,
    red wine!

  5. "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:

    Of course, this is my birthday weekend....so I plan to do a century
    tomorrow and some part of one on Sunday. So I will probably have some
    real cake this weekend!


    A belated Happy Birthday, Roger. Hope it was a good one.

    How did the Century go?

    Many happy returns-

    HG

  6. Hannah Gruen wrote:
    :: "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    ::
    ::: Of course, this is my birthday weekend....so I plan to do a century
    ::: tomorrow and some part of one on Sunday. So I will probably have
    ::: some real cake this weekend!
    :::
    :: A belated Happy Birthday, Roger. Hope it was a good one.
    ::
    :: How did the Century go?
    ::
    :: Many happy returns-
    ::
    :: HG

    Thank you very much, Hannah!

    I did do the century. This is my second full century so far this year,
    along with 0.78 and 0.84 centuries done, too (the 0.84 should have been my
    second, but I got lost on the course and opted for 0.84 rather than 1.17
    (the actual course was 105 miles, or a 1.05 century). I have several
    metrics done but I don't count those. This one had a lot of climbing
    (relatively, that is) but there was a lovely ride over Hartwell dam. I met
    up with a nice lady from Atlanta on that part and we had a nice chat. Later
    it got hot....cramps started at mile 50ish, but I rode through them. Hot
    foot started up about mile 70ish, so those last 30 miles were painful.
    Funny how as I hit 49 I can managed to enjoy pain and keep going back for
    more!

    When Sunday came I was back on LC and didn't bother with cake. I had some
    dry-rub ribs that were wonderfully tender, as I like them. Had a big salad
    too. And did movies! 🙂

    I'm planning to go to Hawaii for a conference in a couple of weeks. I'm
    looking for a cycling day tour over there now! 🙂

  7. Better late than never --

    Happy Birthday, Roger!

    --
    BlueBrooke
    254/237/135 since 31/12/2007

  8. BlueBrooke wrote:
    :: Better late than never --
    ::
    :: Happy Birthday, Roger!
    ::
    :: --
    :: BlueBrooke
    :: 254/237/135 since 31/12/2007

    Thank you very much, BlueBrooke! 🙂

  9. On Tue, 29 May 2007 14:35:42 -0400, Roger Zoul <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Hannah Gruen wrote:
    :: "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    ::
    ::: Of course, this is my birthday weekend....so I plan to do a century
    ::: tomorrow and some part of one on Sunday. So I will probably have
    ::: some real cake this weekend!
    :::
    :: A belated Happy Birthday, Roger. Hope it was a good one.
    ::
    :: How did the Century go?
    ::
    :: Many happy returns-
    ::
    :: HG

    Thank you very much, Hannah!

    I did do the century. This is my second full century so far this year,
    along with 0.78 and 0.84 centuries done, too (the 0.84 should have been
    my
    second, but I got lost on the course and opted for 0.84 rather than 1.17
    (the actual course was 105 miles, or a 1.05 century). I have several
    metrics done but I don't count those. This one had a lot of climbing
    (relatively, that is) but there was a lovely ride over Hartwell dam. I
    met
    up with a nice lady from Atlanta on that part and we had a nice chat.
    Later
    it got hot....cramps started at mile 50ish, but I rode through them. Hot
    foot started up about mile 70ish, so those last 30 miles were painful.
    Funny how as I hit 49 I can managed to enjoy pain and keep going back for
    more!

    When Sunday came I was back on LC and didn't bother with cake. I had
    some
    dry-rub ribs that were wonderfully tender, as I like them. Had a big
    salad
    too. And did movies! 🙂

    I'm planning to go to Hawaii for a conference in a couple of weeks. I'm
    looking for a cycling day tour over there now! 🙂

    Congrats on the birthday and ride!

    --
    Bob in CT

  10. "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:

    I did do the century. This is my second full century so far this year,
    along with 0.78 and 0.84 centuries done, too (the 0.84 should have been my
    second, but I got lost on the course and opted for 0.84 rather than 1.17
    (the actual course was 105 miles, or a 1.05 century). I have several
    metrics done but I don't count those. This one had a lot of climbing
    (relatively, that is) but there was a lovely ride over Hartwell dam. I
    met up with a nice lady from Atlanta on that part and we had a nice chat.
    Later it got hot....cramps started at mile 50ish, but I rode through them.
    Hot foot started up about mile 70ish, so those last 30 miles were painful.
    Funny how as I hit 49 I can managed to enjoy pain and keep going back for
    more!

    Good for you! What is "hot foot"? Pretty good riding for an old guy (jk!)

    Quoted message said:

    When Sunday came I was back on LC and didn't bother with cake. I had some
    dry-rub ribs that were wonderfully tender, as I like them. Had a big
    salad too. And did movies! 🙂

    Sounds like a perfect birthday dinner.

    Quoted message said:

    I'm planning to go to Hawaii for a conference in a couple of weeks. I'm
    looking for a cycling day tour over there now! 🙂

    Now you're talking! My sister and her family love to cycle over there. From
    the pictures I've seen, it's fabulous.

    HG

  11. Bob in CT wrote:
    :: On Tue, 29 May 2007 14:35:42 -0400, Roger Zoul
    :: <[email hidden]> wrote:
    ::
    ::: Hannah Gruen wrote:
    ::::: "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    :::::
    :::::: Of course, this is my birthday weekend....so I plan to do a
    :::::: century tomorrow and some part of one on Sunday. So I will
    :::::: probably have some real cake this weekend!
    ::::::
    ::::: A belated Happy Birthday, Roger. Hope it was a good one.
    :::::
    ::::: How did the Century go?
    :::::
    ::::: Many happy returns-
    :::::
    ::::: HG
    :::
    ::: Thank you very much, Hannah!
    :::
    ::: I did do the century. This is my second full century so far this
    ::: year, along with 0.78 and 0.84 centuries done, too (the 0.84 should
    ::: have been my
    ::: second, but I got lost on the course and opted for 0.84 rather than
    ::: 1.17 (the actual course was 105 miles, or a 1.05 century). I have
    ::: several metrics done but I don't count those. This one had a lot of
    ::: climbing (relatively, that is) but there was a lovely ride over
    ::: Hartwell dam. I met
    ::: up with a nice lady from Atlanta on that part and we had a nice
    ::: chat. Later
    ::: it got hot....cramps started at mile 50ish, but I rode through
    ::: them. Hot foot started up about mile 70ish, so those last 30 miles
    ::: were painful. Funny how as I hit 49 I can managed to enjoy pain and
    ::: keep going back for more!
    :::
    ::: When Sunday came I was back on LC and didn't bother with cake. I
    ::: had some
    ::: dry-rub ribs that were wonderfully tender, as I like them. Had a
    ::: big salad
    ::: too. And did movies! 🙂
    :::
    ::: I'm planning to go to Hawaii for a conference in a couple of weeks.
    ::: I'm looking for a cycling day tour over there now! 🙂
    :::
    :::
    ::
    :: Congrats on the birthday and ride!

    Thanks, and congrats on the baby! That's a really big deal!

  12. Hannah Gruen wrote:
    :: "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    ::
    ::: I did do the century. This is my second full century so far this
    ::: year, along with 0.78 and 0.84 centuries done, too (the 0.84 should
    ::: have been my second, but I got lost on the course and opted for
    ::: 0.84 rather than 1.17 (the actual course was 105 miles, or a 1.05
    ::: century). I have several metrics done but I don't count those.
    ::: This one had a lot of climbing (relatively, that is) but there was
    ::: a lovely ride over Hartwell dam. I met up with a nice lady from
    ::: Atlanta on that part and we had a nice chat. Later it got
    ::: hot....cramps started at mile 50ish, but I rode through them. Hot
    ::: foot started up about mile 70ish, so those last 30 miles were
    ::: painful. Funny how as I hit 49 I can managed to enjoy pain and keep
    ::: going back for more!
    ::
    :: Good for you! What is "hot foot"? Pretty good riding for an old guy
    :: (jk!)

    Well, it's this condition that seems to be temperature related...after your
    foot has been on contact with a pedal for a long time it starts
    burning....not hot as in temperature, but just a burning sensation that is
    terrible. Must be nerve compression or something. I've tried different
    shoes, etc, but no help. In cooler weather I don't have problems. This time
    I wore sandals and no socks, but it still happened.

    ::
    ::: When Sunday came I was back on LC and didn't bother with cake. I
    ::: had some dry-rub ribs that were wonderfully tender, as I like them.
    ::: Had a big salad too. And did movies! 🙂
    ::
    :: Sounds like a perfect birthday dinner.
    ::
    ::: I'm planning to go to Hawaii for a conference in a couple of weeks.
    ::: I'm looking for a cycling day tour over there now! 🙂
    ::
    :: Now you're talking! My sister and her family love to cycle over
    :: there. From the pictures I've seen, it's fabulous.

    That's good to hear!

  13. Roger Zoul said:

    Hannah Gruen wrote:
    :: "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    ::
    ::: Of course, this is my birthday weekend....so I plan to do a century
    ::: tomorrow and some part of one on Sunday. So I will probably have
    ::: some real cake this weekend!
    :::
    :: A belated Happy Birthday, Roger. Hope it was a good one.
    ::
    :: How did the Century go?
    ::
    :: Many happy returns-
    ::
    :: HG

    Thank you very much, Hannah!


    snip

    Glad you had a good birthday.

    Funny isn't it, if you look at where and what you where doing on
    each. It probably wasn't that many birthdays ago a century ride
    would not have even appeared on the radar.

    --
    Rudy - Remove the Z from my address to respond.

    "It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!"
    -Emiliano Zapata

    Check out the a.s.d.l-c FAQ at:
    http://www.grossweb.com/asdlc/faq.htm

  14. "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:

    :: Good for you! What is "hot foot"? Pretty good riding for an old guy
    :: (jk!)

    Well, it's this condition that seems to be temperature related...after
    your foot has been on contact with a pedal for a long time it starts
    burning....not hot as in temperature, but just a burning sensation that is
    terrible. Must be nerve compression or something. I've tried different
    shoes, etc, but no help. In cooler weather I don't have problems. This
    time I wore sandals and no socks, but it still happened.

    That sounds nasty. I'd guess it is nerve-related. I never experienced that
    while riding, even in the heat, but I haven't done the distance you have.

    I really need to get my bike from my daughter's house and start riding
    again. It's been almost a year. I'll have to begin right back at the
    beginning, since it's been a couple years since I rode. My new location is
    more bicycle-friendly, however, and lots of places to ride to. You guys make
    me remember what I'm missing.

    HG

  15. RRzVRR wrote:
    :: Roger Zoul wrote:
    ::
    ::: Hannah Gruen wrote:
    ::::: "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    :::::
    :::::: Of course, this is my birthday weekend....so I plan to do a
    :::::: century tomorrow and some part of one on Sunday. So I will
    :::::: probably have some real cake this weekend!
    ::::::
    ::::: A belated Happy Birthday, Roger. Hope it was a good one.
    :::::
    ::::: How did the Century go?
    :::::
    ::::: Many happy returns-
    :::::
    ::::: HG
    :::
    ::: Thank you very much, Hannah!
    :::
    :: snip
    ::
    :: Glad you had a good birthday.
    ::
    :: Funny isn't it, if you look at where and what you where doing on
    :: each. It probably wasn't that many birthdays ago a century ride
    :: would not have even appeared on the radar.

    No kidding....and if it weren't for the heat, I'd do one every weekend
    through the summer. I enjoy going to different places doing these
    rides....you get to meet nice people, but you also get to test yourself.

    I'm thinking that I'm going to have to start training up for the assault on
    Mt. Mitchell. That's about 11000+ ft of climbing over 100-miles (with 7000
    of them coming over the last 30). I just don't like that it happens in
    June, though. Actually, the heat is only an issue because of this darned
    hot foot.

  16. Hannah Gruen wrote:
    :: "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    ::
    ::::: Good for you! What is "hot foot"? Pretty good riding for an old
    ::::: guy (jk!)
    :::
    ::: Well, it's this condition that seems to be temperature
    ::: related...after your foot has been on contact with a pedal for a
    ::: long time it starts burning....not hot as in temperature, but just
    ::: a burning sensation that is terrible. Must be nerve compression or
    ::: something. I've tried different shoes, etc, but no help. In cooler
    ::: weather I don't have problems. This time I wore sandals and no
    ::: socks, but it still happened.
    ::
    :: That sounds nasty. I'd guess it is nerve-related. I never
    :: experienced that while riding, even in the heat, but I haven't done
    :: the distance you have.
    ::
    :: I really need to get my bike from my daughter's house and start
    :: riding again. It's been almost a year. I'll have to begin right back
    :: at the beginning, since it's been a couple years since I rode. My
    :: new location is more bicycle-friendly, however, and lots of places
    :: to ride to. You guys make me remember what I'm missing.
    ::

    Well, if you do that...then one day we can all plan to meet up somewhere and
    ride together! 🙂

    Sort of like the LC Retreat we had in Vegas in 2003, where I met Myra and
    Carol Ann. I need to call both of them.....

  17. On Wed, 30 May 2007 07:46:33 -0400, Roger Zoul <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    RRzVRR wrote:
    :: Roger Zoul wrote:
    ::
    ::: Hannah Gruen wrote:
    ::::: "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    :::::
    :::::: Of course, this is my birthday weekend....so I plan to do a
    :::::: century tomorrow and some part of one on Sunday. So I will
    :::::: probably have some real cake this weekend!
    ::::::
    ::::: A belated Happy Birthday, Roger. Hope it was a good one.
    :::::
    ::::: How did the Century go?
    :::::
    ::::: Many happy returns-
    :::::
    ::::: HG
    :::
    ::: Thank you very much, Hannah!
    :::
    :: snip
    ::
    :: Glad you had a good birthday.
    ::
    :: Funny isn't it, if you look at where and what you where doing on
    :: each. It probably wasn't that many birthdays ago a century ride
    :: would not have even appeared on the radar.

    No kidding....and if it weren't for the heat, I'd do one every weekend
    through the summer. I enjoy going to different places doing these
    rides....you get to meet nice people, but you also get to test yourself.

    I'm thinking that I'm going to have to start training up for the assault
    on
    Mt. Mitchell. That's about 11000+ ft of climbing over 100-miles (with
    7000
    of them coming over the last 30). I just don't like that it happens in
    June, though. Actually, the heat is only an issue because of this darned
    hot foot.

    The century I did in Westchester county had around 8,700 feet of climbing,
    but it was rolling hills. A mountain would be tougher, as there's no
    respite.

    --
    Bob in CT

  18. On Tue, 29 May 2007 18:37:21 -0400, Roger Zoul <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Bob in CT wrote:


    [cut]

    Quoted message said:

    :::
    ::: I'm planning to go to Hawaii for a conference in a couple of weeks.
    ::: I'm looking for a cycling day tour over there now! 🙂
    :::
    :::
    ::
    :: Congrats on the birthday and ride!

    Thanks, and congrats on the baby! That's a really big deal!

    Big, in a matter of speaking of course! ;-0 I've already named her "big
    lungs" even though I'm hoping she won't be using those lungs, much!

    --
    Bob in CT

  19. Bob in CT wrote:
    :: On Wed, 30 May 2007 07:46:33 -0400, Roger Zoul
    :: <[email hidden]> wrote:
    ::
    ::: RRzVRR wrote:
    ::::: Roger Zoul wrote:
    :::::
    :::::: Hannah Gruen wrote:
    :::::::: "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    ::::::::
    ::::::::: Of course, this is my birthday weekend....so I plan to do a
    ::::::::: century tomorrow and some part of one on Sunday. So I will
    ::::::::: probably have some real cake this weekend!
    :::::::::
    :::::::: A belated Happy Birthday, Roger. Hope it was a good one.
    ::::::::
    :::::::: How did the Century go?
    ::::::::
    :::::::: Many happy returns-
    ::::::::
    :::::::: HG
    ::::::
    :::::: Thank you very much, Hannah!
    ::::::
    ::::: snip
    :::::
    ::::: Glad you had a good birthday.
    :::::
    ::::: Funny isn't it, if you look at where and what you where doing on
    ::::: each. It probably wasn't that many birthdays ago a century ride
    ::::: would not have even appeared on the radar.
    :::
    ::: No kidding....and if it weren't for the heat, I'd do one every
    ::: weekend through the summer. I enjoy going to different places
    ::: doing these rides....you get to meet nice people, but you also get
    ::: to test yourself.
    :::
    ::: I'm thinking that I'm going to have to start training up for the
    ::: assault on
    ::: Mt. Mitchell. That's about 11000+ ft of climbing over 100-miles
    ::: (with 7000
    ::: of them coming over the last 30). I just don't like that it
    ::: happens in June, though. Actually, the heat is only an issue
    ::: because of this darned hot foot.
    :::
    :::
    ::
    :: The century I did in Westchester county had around 8,700 feet of
    :: climbing, but it was rolling hills. A mountain would be tougher, as
    :: there's no respite.

    I think the most I've done is about 5000 feet so far. Most of the larger
    climbs are all in summer months when hot foot seems to kill my joy.

  20. Happy Belated Birthday Roger. I wish you many more with good health.

    Cheri

    Roger Zoul wrote in message

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    Quoted message said:

    :::::: Of course, this is my birthday weekend....so I plan to do a
    :::::: century tomorrow and some part of one on Sunday. So I will
    :::::: probably have some real cake this weekend!

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