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  1. It appears that censure is an objective of certain people in this chatroom.
    I received a phony notice from sympatico to try to
    suppress my postings here. It had spelling misteaks and erroneous
    info. I am disappointed in you, but not surprised.

    Here is a self portrait of one of the people who hang here and encourage
    open intellectual debate.......

    Health fraud:

    This goes beyond scepticism into the area where real harm is done. Put
    simply, "alternative medicine" is neither medicine nor an alternative. The
    Internet seems riddled with liars and thieves offering guaranteed cures for
    everything from hangnails to AIDS, all using "traditional" or "natural" or
    "alternative" methods and potions. It would be bad enough if these vermin
    just emptied their victims' wallets and gave them false hopes, but there are
    people who are actively campaigning to kill and maim children. The most
    depressing and offensive site I have ever seen on the Internet belonged to
    an organisation which wants to stop people vaccinating their children. I
    would not provide a link to a paedophile site, and I will not provide a link
    to this child-abuse site either. For a good look at health fraud, see the
    Quackwatch site, or you can see some more links on my Favourites page. By
    the way, when the Chinese swimming team were in Australia for the 1998 World
    Championships, the drugs they brought with them were not the traditional
    crushed beetles, bird's droppings and herbs, but plain old made-in-a-factory
    human growth hormone. Even the most traditional of people know what works
    when they really need it.

    Multi-level marketing:

    The newspapers carry stories about thieves like Christopher Skase who
    defraud shareholders, but an even greater fraud is committed in lounge rooms
    across the nation each night as conmen claim that unlimited wealth can be
    gained through pyramid selling schemes. Of course they don't call them
    "pyramid schemes" because the law defines such schemes and lawyers have been
    paid to make sure these scams don't fit the legal definition. Someone once
    told me that anybody could sign up 5 people per month; if each of those 5
    also signed up 5 per month and the thing continued, in the 10th month
    48,828,125 people would be added to my downline. This is three times the
    entire population of Australia. When I asked why the oldest MLM operation in
    Australia had only 80,000 people in the pyramid (sorry, network) after 25
    years, I was given some claptrap answer. If it works, it takes 41 weeks to
    saturate Australia and eight weeks later the entire population of the USA
    has to be added. Sure, people are making money, but they aren't those coming
    in at the bottom. You can read more of my opinions on this by clicking here.
    I wrote an article for the local newspaper poking a bit of fun at the
    pyramidiots, and the editor received some savage phone calls in response.
    Funnily enough, none of the complainers bothered to ring me directly.
    Perhaps they didn't want to talk to a negative loser.

    http://users.bigpond.net.au/peterb/index.html

  2. "Dave" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    It appears that censure is an objective of certain people in this


    chatroom.

    Quoted message said:

    I received a phony notice from sympatico to try to
    suppress my postings here. It had spelling misteaks and erroneous
    info. I am disappointed in you, but not surprised.

    It was done by Renal Ratsass.

    Quoted message said:

    Here is a self portrait of one of the people who hang here and encourage
    open intellectual debate.......

    Health fraud:

    This goes beyond scepticism into the area where real harm is done. Put
    simply, "alternative medicine" is neither medicine nor an alternative. The
    Internet seems riddled with liars and thieves offering guaranteed cures


    for

    Quoted message said:

    everything from hangnails to AIDS, all using "traditional" or "natural" or
    "alternative" methods and potions. It would be bad enough if these vermin
    just emptied their victims' wallets and gave them false hopes, but there


    are

    Quoted message said:

    people who are actively campaigning to kill and maim children. The most
    depressing and offensive site I have ever seen on the Internet belonged to
    an organisation which wants to stop people vaccinating their children. I
    would not provide a link to a paedophile site, and I will not provide a


    link

    Quoted message said:

    to this child-abuse site either. For a good look at health fraud, see the
    Quackwatch site, or you can see some more links on my Favourites page. By
    the way, when the Chinese swimming team were in Australia for the 1998


    World

    Quoted message said:

    Championships, the drugs they brought with them were not the traditional
    crushed beetles, bird's droppings and herbs, but plain old


    made-in-a-factory

    Quoted message said:

    human growth hormone. Even the most traditional of people know what works
    when they really need it.

    Multi-level marketing:

    The newspapers carry stories about thieves like Christopher Skase who
    defraud shareholders, but an even greater fraud is committed in lounge


    rooms

    Quoted message said:

    across the nation each night as conmen claim that unlimited wealth can be
    gained through pyramid selling schemes. Of course they don't call them
    "pyramid schemes" because the law defines such schemes and lawyers have


    been

    Quoted message said:

    paid to make sure these scams don't fit the legal definition. Someone


    once

    Quoted message said:

    told me that anybody could sign up 5 people per month; if each of those 5
    also signed up 5 per month and the thing continued, in the 10th month
    48,828,125 people would be added to my downline. This is three times the
    entire population of Australia. When I asked why the oldest MLM operation


    in

    Quoted message said:

    Australia had only 80,000 people in the pyramid (sorry, network) after 25
    years, I was given some claptrap answer. If it works, it takes 41 weeks to
    saturate Australia and eight weeks later the entire population of the USA
    has to be added. Sure, people are making money, but they aren't those


    coming

    Quoted message said:

    in at the bottom. You can read more of my opinions on this by clicking


    here.

    Quoted message said:

    I wrote an article for the local newspaper poking a bit of fun at the
    pyramidiots, and the editor received some savage phone calls in response.
    Funnily enough, none of the complainers bothered to ring me directly.
    Perhaps they didn't want to talk to a negative loser.

    http://users.bigpond.net.au/peterb/index.html

  3. Quoted message said:

    Subject: A funny thing happened
    From: "Dave" [email hidden]
    Date: 10/7/2003 10:13 AM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    It appears that censure is an objective of certain people in this chatroom.
    I received a phony notice from sympatico to try to
    suppress my postings here. It had spelling misteaks and erroneous
    info. I am disappointed in you, but not surprised.

    Here is a self portrait of one of the people who hang here and encourage
    open intellectual debate.......

    Health fraud:

    This goes beyond scepticism into the area where real harm is done. Put
    simply, "alternative medicine" is neither medicine nor an alternative. The
    Internet seems riddled with liars and thieves offering guaranteed cures for
    everything from hangnails to AIDS, all using "traditional" or "natural" or
    "alternative" methods and potions. It would be bad enough if these vermin
    just emptied their victims' wallets and gave them false hopes, but there are
    people who are actively campaigning to kill and maim children. The most
    depressing and offensive site I have ever seen on the Internet belonged to
    an organisation which wants to stop people vaccinating their children. I
    would not provide a link to a paedophile site, and I will not provide a link
    to this child-abuse site either. For a good look at health fraud, see the
    Quackwatch site, or you can see some more links on my Favourites page. By
    the way, when the Chinese swimming team were in Australia for the 1998 World
    Championships, the drugs they brought with them were not the traditional
    crushed beetles, bird's droppings and herbs, but plain old made-in-a-factory
    human growth hormone. Even the most traditional of people know what works
    when they really need it.

    Multi-level marketing:

    The newspapers carry stories about thieves like Christopher Skase who
    defraud shareholders, but an even greater fraud is committed in lounge rooms
    across the nation each night as conmen claim that unlimited wealth can be
    gained through pyramid selling schemes. Of course they don't call them
    "pyramid schemes" because the law defines such schemes and lawyers have been
    paid to make sure these scams don't fit the legal definition. Someone once
    told me that anybody could sign up 5 people per month; if each of those 5
    also signed up 5 per month and the thing continued, in the 10th month
    48,828,125 people would be added to my downline. This is three times the
    entire population of Australia. When I asked why the oldest MLM operation in
    Australia had only 80,000 people in the pyramid (sorry, network) after 25
    years, I was given some claptrap answer. If it works, it takes 41 weeks to
    saturate Australia and eight weeks later the entire population of the USA
    has to be added. Sure, people are making money, but they aren't those coming
    in at the bottom. You can read more of my opinions on this by clicking here.
    I wrote an article for the local newspaper poking a bit of fun at the
    pyramidiots, and the editor received some savage phone calls in response.
    Funnily enough, none of the complainers bothered to ring me directly.
    Perhaps they didn't want to talk to a negative loser.

    http://users.bigpond.net.au/peterb/index.html

    Peterb is famous for twisting, lying and making things up. When asked to prove
    them, he can't.

    Jan

  4. (Jan) said:

    Peterb is famous for twisting, lying and making things up. When asked to prove
    them, he can't.

    Now this is a REAL KEEPER:-)))))))))))

    Let's see. Jan accuses me of lying about her amalgam history. She has
    identified three lies that she thinks I told.

    The first "lie" was my saying that she said she felt better than she
    had in years instead of two years.

    The second "lie" was my saying that she said she felt better than she
    had in two years (according to Jan my lie was what I was "implying"😉.

    And the third "lie" was when I said January instead of June which was
    a simple mistake.

    Of course when Hulda Clark says that she has the cure for all illness
    Jan thinks she is simply mistaken. When I mistakenly post January
    instead of June I am lying. Lord have mercy.

    And Jan accuses *others* of being selective in their criticism.

    Quoted message said:


    Jan

    Aloha,

    Rich

    ------------------------------------------------
    ------------------------------------------------

    The best defense to logic is ignorance.

  5. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Dave said:

    It appears that censure is an objective of certain people in this chatroom.
    I received a phony notice from sympatico to try to
    suppress my postings here. It had spelling misteaks and erroneous
    info. I am disappointed in you, but not surprised.

    Given the "stories" you've told before (I'm being generous here), why
    should we believe you about this, particularly since you didn't post the
    e-mail?

    Quoted message said:

    Here is a self portrait of one of the people who hang here and encourage
    open intellectual debate.......

    Health fraud:

    This goes beyond scepticism into the area where real harm is done. Put
    simply, "alternative medicine" is neither medicine nor an alternative.

    This is correct for some treatments labeled as "alternative medicine."

    Quoted message said:

    The
    Internet seems riddled with liars and thieves offering guaranteed cures for
    everything from hangnails to AIDS, all using "traditional" or "natural" or
    "alternative" methods and potions.

    Again, unfortunately, this is true. I've heard at least a couple of
    alternative medicine advocates bemoan this state of affairs and complain
    that their remedies are being tarred by the sidesplash of [censored] from the
    hucksters on the Internet.

    Quoted message said:

    It would be bad enough if these vermin
    just emptied their victims' wallets and gave them false hopes, but there are
    people who are actively campaigning to kill and maim children. The most
    depressing and offensive site I have ever seen on the Internet belonged to
    an organisation which wants to stop people vaccinating their children.

    Unfortunately, these kinds of sites are not the most depressing and
    offensive sites I've ever seen. But they are pretty bad.

    Quoted message said:

    I
    would not provide a link to a paedophile site, and I will not provide a link
    to this child-abuse site either. For a good look at health fraud, see the
    Quackwatch site, or you can see some more links on my Favourites page. By
    the way, when the Chinese swimming team were in Australia for the 1998 World
    Championships, the drugs they brought with them were not the traditional
    crushed beetles, bird's droppings and herbs, but plain old made-in-a-factory
    human growth hormone. Even the most traditional of people know what works
    when they really need it.

    Interesting observation.

    Quoted message said:

    Multi-level marketing:

    The newspapers carry stories about thieves like Christopher Skase who
    defraud shareholders, but an even greater fraud is committed in lounge rooms
    across the nation each night as conmen claim that unlimited wealth can be
    gained through pyramid selling schemes. Of course they don't call them
    "pyramid schemes" because the law defines such schemes and lawyers have been
    paid to make sure these scams don't fit the legal definition. Someone once
    told me that anybody could sign up 5 people per month; if each of those 5
    also signed up 5 per month and the thing continued, in the 10th month
    48,828,125 people would be added to my downline. This is three times the
    entire population of Australia. When I asked why the oldest MLM operation in
    Australia had only 80,000 people in the pyramid (sorry, network) after 25
    years, I was given some claptrap answer. If it works, it takes 41 weeks to
    saturate Australia and eight weeks later the entire population of the USA
    has to be added. Sure, people are making money, but they aren't those coming
    in at the bottom. You can read more of my opinions on this by clicking here.
    I wrote an article for the local newspaper poking a bit of fun at the
    pyramidiots, and the editor received some savage phone calls in response.
    Funnily enough, none of the complainers bothered to ring me directly.
    Perhaps they didn't want to talk to a negative loser.

    Heh heh. He nailed the vast majority of MLM schemes right on.

    --
    Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."
    |
    |"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you
    | inconvenience me with questions?"

  6. (Jan) said:

    Peterb is famous for twisting, lying and making things up. When asked to prove
    them, he can't.

    Prove it!

    --
    Peter Bowditch
    The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
    The Green Light http://www.ratbags.com/greenlight
    and The New Improved Quintessence of the Loon with added Vitamins and C-Q10 http://www.ratbags.com/loon
    To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com

  7. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: A funny thing happened
    From: Peter Bowditch [email hidden]
    Date: 10/7/2003 4:16 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    (Jan) said:

    Peterb is famous for twisting, lying and making things up. When asked to


    prove

    Quoted message said:

    them, he can't.

    Prove it!

    You still haven't. After plenty of asking.

    These are your EXACT words:

    Some proponents of "alternative medicine" have tried to make an issue out of
    Ben's death, apparently on the basis that a mistake made by real doctors
    somehow has something to do with children dying because pretend doctors treat
    them with snake oil.

    These are mine:

    So far you haven't been able to copy and paste where you got that idea.

    And you can't, can you Peter?

    So that is LIE # 1.

    Then you stated:

    You can read about Ben athttp://www.krupnicklaw.com/site/press/healing.htm This
    site belongs tot he lawyers who represented Ben's parents at the time. The
    attitude ofthe parents' lawyers stands in stark contrast to the way "

    (My words below)

    So far you haven't been able to copy and paste WHERE or WHO had this stark
    contrast.

    And you can't, can you Peter?

    So that is LIE # 2

    You also stated:

    "alternative medicine" supporters attempt to demonise the people who made a
    tragic mistake.

    (My words below)

    So far, you haven't been able to copy and paste who demonized anyone.

    And you can't, can you Peter?

    So that is LIE # 3

    Here is WHAT I posted:

    From: Jan ([email hidden])
    Subject: Re: A Lesson from Ben
    Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative
    View: Complete Thread (21 articles) |
    Date: 2002-01-02 11:01:59 PST

    <snipping to the *only* thing said about the doctor>

    Yes. They did the right thing and my heart goes out to the doctor, and all
    those involved. The parents in turn also did the right thing and dropped the
    lawsuit. I was indeed very sad for everyone. This is why I started my post with
    this sentence.

    This post is NOT intended to go after any *ONE* individual.

    NO demonizing whatsoever.

    Jan

    {***I don't give a damn if Peter lied to you, this newsgroup, his mother, or
    the pope.****

    Rich Shewmaker Ka Ching

  8. --

    "Peter Bowditch" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    (Jan) said:

    Peterb is famous for twisting, lying and making things up.

    $ KaChing $4

  9. Can you post this email including the headers?
    Anth

    "Dave" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    It appears that censure is an objective of certain people in this


    chatroom.

    Quoted message said:

    I received a phony notice from sympatico to try to
    suppress my postings here. It had spelling misteaks and erroneous
    info. I am disappointed in you, but not surprised.

    Here is a self portrait of one of the people who hang here and encourage
    open intellectual debate.......

    Health fraud:

    This goes beyond scepticism into the area where real harm is done. Put
    simply, "alternative medicine" is neither medicine nor an alternative. The
    Internet seems riddled with liars and thieves offering guaranteed cures


    for

    Quoted message said:

    everything from hangnails to AIDS, all using "traditional" or "natural" or
    "alternative" methods and potions. It would be bad enough if these vermin
    just emptied their victims' wallets and gave them false hopes, but there


    are

    Quoted message said:

    people who are actively campaigning to kill and maim children. The most
    depressing and offensive site I have ever seen on the Internet belonged to
    an organisation which wants to stop people vaccinating their children. I
    would not provide a link to a paedophile site, and I will not provide a


    link

    Quoted message said:

    to this child-abuse site either. For a good look at health fraud, see the
    Quackwatch site, or you can see some more links on my Favourites page. By
    the way, when the Chinese swimming team were in Australia for the 1998


    World

    Quoted message said:

    Championships, the drugs they brought with them were not the traditional
    crushed beetles, bird's droppings and herbs, but plain old


    made-in-a-factory

    Quoted message said:

    human growth hormone. Even the most traditional of people know what works
    when they really need it.

    Multi-level marketing:

    The newspapers carry stories about thieves like Christopher Skase who
    defraud shareholders, but an even greater fraud is committed in lounge


    rooms

    Quoted message said:

    across the nation each night as conmen claim that unlimited wealth can be
    gained through pyramid selling schemes. Of course they don't call them
    "pyramid schemes" because the law defines such schemes and lawyers have


    been

    Quoted message said:

    paid to make sure these scams don't fit the legal definition. Someone


    once

    Quoted message said:

    told me that anybody could sign up 5 people per month; if each of those 5
    also signed up 5 per month and the thing continued, in the 10th month
    48,828,125 people would be added to my downline. This is three times the
    entire population of Australia. When I asked why the oldest MLM operation


    in

    Quoted message said:

    Australia had only 80,000 people in the pyramid (sorry, network) after 25
    years, I was given some claptrap answer. If it works, it takes 41 weeks to
    saturate Australia and eight weeks later the entire population of the USA
    has to be added. Sure, people are making money, but they aren't those


    coming

    Quoted message said:

    in at the bottom. You can read more of my opinions on this by clicking


    here.

    Quoted message said:

    I wrote an article for the local newspaper poking a bit of fun at the
    pyramidiots, and the editor received some savage phone calls in response.
    Funnily enough, none of the complainers bothered to ring me directly.
    Perhaps they didn't want to talk to a negative loser.

    http://users.bigpond.net.au/peterb/index.html

  10. Quoted message said:

    Can you post this email including the headers?
    Anth

    No, because he's making it up, just like his Spamming sales pitch.
    He's a soulless reprobate.

    Quoted message said:

    "Dave" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    It appears that censure is an objective of certain people in this


    chatroom.

    Quoted message said:

    I received a phony notice from sympatico to try to
    suppress my postings here. It had spelling misteaks and erroneous
    info. I am disappointed in you, but not surprised.

  11. Peter Bowditch <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:
    (Jan) said:

    Peterb is famous for twisting, lying and making things up. When asked to


    prove

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    them, he can't.

    Prove it!

    But JD's lies are truly legendary as opposed to peter's "lies" which are
    actually the truth.

    r

    --
    Nothing beats the bandwidth of a station wagon filled with DLT tapes.

  12. "Ilsa9" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Can you post this email including the headers?
    Anth

    Consider it a doctor/distributor privleged relationship.

    No, because he's making it up, just like his Spamming sales pitch.

    Quoted message said:

    He's a soulless reprobate.

    Quoted message said:

    "Dave" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    It appears that censure is an objective of certain people in this


    chatroom.

    Quoted message said:

    I received a phony notice from sympatico to try to
    suppress my postings here. It had spelling misteaks and erroneous
    info. I am disappointed in you, but not surprised.

  13. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: A funny thing happened
    From: "Dave" [email hidden]
    Date: 10/8/2003 12:31 PM Pacific Daylight Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Consider it a doctor/distributor privleged relationship.

    LOL LOL....yeah right....the ONLY relationship that is "privileged" is
    doctor/patient...

    now you are saying that this email with all its mispellings came from a
    doctor??

    yeah right....

    treading water here Davey

    hawki

  14. Peter Bowditch said:
    (Jan) said:

    Peterb is famous for twisting, lying and making things up. When asked to prove
    them, he can't.

    Prove it!

    Oh, dear me, what a nasty idea you have... ;O)

    Regards,

    Aribert Deckers
    --
    POLICE - POLIZEI - POLITIE - POLICIA

    http://www.ariplex.com/ama/amapolis.htm

  15. Dave save the email out as a .eml and paste the thing into here.
    Anth

    "Dave" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Ilsa9" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Can you post this email including the headers?
    Anth

    Consider it a doctor/distributor privleged relationship.

    No, because he's making it up, just like his Spamming sales pitch.

    Quoted message said:

    He's a soulless reprobate.

    Quoted message said:

    "Dave" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    > It appears that censure is an objective of certain people in this
    chatroom.
    > I received a phony notice from sympatico to try to
    > suppress my postings here. It had spelling misteaks and erroneous
    > info. I am disappointed in you, but not surprised.
    >

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