A few questions from a client

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I'm a male that's been going to a female massage therapist for about a year. My forearms are
messed up from playing drums and guitar. She has been giving deep tissue massage on the effected
muscles and all the surrounding ones as well. I understand this approach, but would like her to
spend more time on the specific muscles. I feel that I can communicate with her and have asked
several times. It just seems like she does not like derivating from her routine. I need advice.

So she is working the specific muscles, but you would like her to spend more time with them.... how
long does your massages last? If she is working with you for an hour, she may feel obligated to
stray from the arms. Maybe you could tell her to work them again, or deeper, or you could schedule
with her more often, with shorter sessions, just focusing on the affected muscles. The other option
is to try another therapist...there is nothing wrong with trying someone else.

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Also, a couple of other issues have cropped up for me. Sometimes, especially when I'm on my
stomach, I'll fall asleep for a few seconds and start to snore. This wakes me immediately and I
startle. It is embarrasing and I would like to know if this is normal.

Absolutely normal.

Also, I take

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caution to pee before a session, but worry what will happen if I have to go midway. What is the
protocol?

The protocol is if you gotta go, you gotta go. Hopefully your therapist knows some draping
techniques with the sheets; if not you can wrap the sheet around you and use the restroom.

One more question. What if I'm

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on my stomach and she is massaging my lower back and I have to fart? I would be mortified to lay a
stench in that small room. How have any of you handled this situation in the past. I have put
myself on fart hold before and although it kind of ruins the session, it is preferable to the
alternative, Thanks for your input.

I leave this one to a more enlightened therapist. Although not an herbalist, I would recommend you
read about Fenugreek tea.

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I'm a male that's been going to a female massage therapist for about a year. My forearms are
messed up from playing drums and guitar. She has been giving deep tissue massage on the effected
muscles and all the surrounding ones as well. I understand this approach, but would like her to
spend more time on the specific muscles. I feel that I can communicate with her and have asked
several times. It just seems like she does not like derivating from her routine. I need advice.
Also, a couple of other issues have cropped up for me. Sometimes, especially when I'm on my
stomach, I'll fall asleep for a few seconds and start to snore. This wakes me immediately and I
startle. It is embarrasing and I would like to know if this is normal. Also, I take caution to pee
before a session, but worry what will happen if I have to go midway. What is the protocol? One
more question. What if I'm on my stomach and she is massaging my lower back and I have to fart? I
would be mortified to lay a stench in that small room. How have any of you handled this situation
in the past. I have put myself on fart hold before and although it kind of ruins the session, it
is preferable to the alternative, Thanks for your input.

If you do want more time on those specific area's, there are other areas you might have to forgo
work on. Again, you just need to talk to your therapist, or go to someone new.

It is not embarrassing that you snore and startle yourself awake. Happens all the time.

Make sure to go to the bathroom before your session. If you have to go mid-way, don't be
uncomfortable, just tell her and go. A lot of therapist have robes available, you could slip it on
and go and be back to the table in a jiffy.

Passing gas is a natural body function. When one relaxes in a massage, it gives the digestive system
time to work. You are not the only one who experiences flatulence. If you do pass gas, a polite
excuse me will dispel any weird vibes in the room. Try not to eat anything heavy 2 hours before a
massage, if gas is an issue frequently.

Hope this helps. Tiff

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I'm a male that's been going to a female massage therapist for about a year. My forearms are
messed up from playing drums and guitar. She has been giving deep tissue massage on the effected
muscles and all the surrounding ones as well. I understand this approach, but would like her to
spend more time on the specific muscles. I feel that I can communicate with her and have asked
several times. It just seems like she does not like derivating from her routine. I need advice.

I don't know how long this person has been practicing massage but I can tell you from my own
experience as a new therapist that it can sometimes be difficult for me to break from my routine,
simply because that is what I was taught. We don't really learn anything besides anatomy and "a"
routine at the state level when it comes to the required curriculum. I do feel that a years time is
enough for you to be able to specifically ask your therapist to concentrate on particular muscles
and expect her to try and accomodate.

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Also, a couple of other issues have cropped up for me. Sometimes, especially when I'm on my
stomach, I'll fall asleep for a few seconds and start to snore. This wakes me immediately and I
startle. It is embarrasing and I would like to know if this is normal. Also, I take

Falling asleep during a massage isn't uncommon... perhaps there is solution out there for you... I'm
not sure what I would recommend.

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caution to pee before a session, but worry what will happen if I have to go midway. What is the
protocol? One more question. What if I'm

Just politely inform your therapist that you need to use the restroom, she should understand. I
would be totally fine with this.

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on my stomach and she is massaging my lower back and I have to fart? I would be mortified to lay a
stench in that small room. How have any of you handled this situation in the past. I have put
myself on fart hold before and although it kind of ruins the session, it is preferable to the
alternative, Thanks for your input.

Sometimes you just have to let them loose man... we fart. Can't help it! I know how you must feel
and its gotta be embarassing but just tell your therapist "excuse me, I need to relieve some
discomfort... a little gas". Or something like that. If it was me as your therapist, it would be
totally cool. I appreciate a good fart.

Eric

Thanks for the answers and suggestions. I appreciate the input.

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I'm a male that's been going to a female massage therapist for about a year. My forearms are
messed up from playing drums and guitar. She has been giving deep tissue massage on the effected
muscles and all the surrounding ones as well. I understand this approach, but would like her to
spend more time on the specific muscles. I feel that I can communicate with her and have asked
several times. It just seems like she does not like derivating from her routine. I need advice.

I don't know how long this person has been practicing massage but I can tell you from my own
experience as a new therapist that it can sometimes be difficult for me to break from my routine,
simply because that is what I was taught. We don't really learn anything besides anatomy and "a"
routine at the state level when it comes to the required curriculum. I do feel that a years time is
enough for you to be able to specifically ask your therapist to concentrate on particular muscles
and expect her to try and accomodate.

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Also, a couple of other issues have cropped up for me. Sometimes, especially when I'm on my
stomach, I'll fall asleep for a few seconds and start to snore. This wakes me immediately and I
startle. It is embarrasing and I would like to know if this is normal. Also, I take

Falling asleep during a massage isn't uncommon... perhaps there is solution out there for you...
I'm not sure what I would recommend.

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caution to pee before a session, but worry what will happen if I have to go midway. What is the
protocol? One more question. What if I'm

Just politely inform your therapist that you need to use the restroom, she should understand. I
would be totally fine with this.

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on my stomach and she is massaging my lower back and I have to fart? I would be mortified to lay
a stench in that small room. How have any of you handled this situation in the past. I have put
myself on fart hold before and although it kind of ruins the session, it is preferable to the
alternative, Thanks for your input.

Sometimes you just have to let them loose man... we fart. Can't help it! I know how you must feel
and its gotta be embarassing but just tell your therapist "excuse me, I need to relieve some
discomfort... a little gas". Or something like that. If it was me as your therapist, it would be
totally cool. I appreciate a good fart.

Eric

More room on the outside than the inside.

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Sometimes you just have to let them loose man... we fart. Can't help it!

I

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know how you must feel and its gotta be embarassing but just tell your therapist "excuse me, I
need to relieve some discomfort... a little gas". Or something like that. If it was me as your
therapist, it would be

totally

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cool. I appreciate a good fart.

Eric

I can respond to the following part of the question. I'm a student and took
my Shiatsu final last Friday. Prior to starting the exam I offered a
restroom visit to my client, a perfect stranger to me. She made the visit
and returned. When I began I could hear a lot of abdominal activity
happening with her. No sweat, I'm blindfolded and can't see her at all. I
start the Kata and things are going well. About 10 minutes into the routine
she breaks wind. Not loud, but she and I are both acutely aware it's
happened. What happens? I continue and say nothing. The intent is for me
to allow and help her to get benefit from the session. I wasn't offended in
the least, she certainly had the option to ask me to stop so she could make
another visit to the restroom, but it's not my place to suggest it. She had
so much intestinal activity happening that I skipped the Hara diagnosis
portion of the routine for fear of really making things bad for her. As it
was, she never really relaxed. RELAX, if it happens, it's ok to just excuse
yourself. Try to not eat anything that is going to cause you to have gas
prior to going for a massage. Good luck!!
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I'm a male that's been going to a female massage therapist
for about a year.

One more question. What if I'm

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on my stomach and she is massaging my lower back and I
have to fart? I would be mortified to lay a stench in that
small room. How have any of you handled this situation in
the past. I have put myself on fart hold before and
although it kind of ruins the session, it is preferable to
the alternative, Thanks for your input.

Where did you study Shiatsu?

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I can respond to the following part of the question. I'm a
student and

took

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my Shiatsu final last Friday. Prior to starting the exam I
offered a restroom visit to my client, a perfect stranger
to me. She made the visit and returned. When I began I
could hear a lot of abdominal activity happening with her.
No sweat, I'm blindfolded and can't see her at all.

I

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start the Kata and things are going well. About 10 minutes
into the

routine

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she breaks wind. Not loud, but she and I are both acutely
aware it's happened. What happens? I continue and say
nothing. The intent is for

me

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to allow and help her to get benefit from the session. I
wasn't offended

in

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the least, she certainly had the option to ask me to stop
so she could

make

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another visit to the restroom, but it's not my place to
suggest it. She

had

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so much intestinal activity happening that I skipped the
Hara diagnosis portion of the routine for fear of really
making things bad for her. As

it

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was, she never really relaxed. RELAX, if it happens, it's
ok to just

excuse

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yourself. Try to not eat anything that is going to cause
you to have gas prior to going for a massage. Good luck!!
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I'm a male that's been going to a female massage
therapist for about a year.

One more question. What if I'm

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on my stomach and she is massaging my lower back and I
have to fart? I would be mortified to lay a stench in
that small room. How have any of you handled this
situation in the past. I have put myself on fart hold
before and although it kind of ruins the session, it is
preferable to the alternative, Thanks for your input.

Your human. My clients often pass gas. I just adjust the fan
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Quoted message said:

I'm a male that's been going to a female massage therapist
for about a year. My forearms are messed up from playing
drums and guitar. She has been giving deep tissue massage
on the effected muscles and all the surrounding ones as
well. I understand this approach, but would like her to
spend more time on the specific muscles. I feel that I can
communicate with her and have asked several times. It just
seems like she does not like derivating from her routine.
I need advice. Also, a couple of other issues have cropped
up for me. Sometimes, especially when I'm on my stomach,
I'll fall asleep for a few seconds and start to snore.
This wakes me immediately and I startle. It is embarrasing
and I would like to know if this is normal. Also, I take
caution to pee before a session, but worry what will
happen if I have to go midway. What is the protocol? One
more question. What if I'm on my stomach and she is
massaging my lower back and I have to fart? I would be
mortified to lay a stench in that small room. How have any
of you handled this situation in the past. I have put
myself on fart hold before and although it kind of ruins
the session, it is preferable to the alternative, Thanks
for your input.

Quoted message said:

I'm a male that's been going to a female massage therapist
for about a year. My forearms are messed up from playing
drums and guitar. She has been giving deep tissue massage
on the effected muscles and all the surrounding ones as
well. I understand this approach, but would like her to
spend more time on the specific muscles. I feel that I can
communicate with her and have asked several times. It just
seems like she does not like deviating from her routine.

Any more than ten minutes or so on a body part isn't really
therapeutic anymore. Palliative, maybe, but you could take
an ibuprofen for that.

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I need advice. Also, a couple of other issues have cropped
up for me. Sometimes, especially when I'm on my stomach,
I'll fall asleep for a few seconds and start to snore.
This wakes me immediately and I startle. It is
embarrassing and I would like to know if this is normal.

Yes, no reason to be embarrassed. Unless you snore as loud
on a table as I do, and annoy the neighbors. ;-)

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Also, I take caution to pee before a session, but worry
what will happen if I have to go midway. What is the
protocol?

Tell her. She leaves the room, you put on your robe (or
whatever)... when she hears you leave the toilet, she waits
a minute, knocks for permission to enter....

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One more question. What if I'm on my stomach and she is
massaging my lower back and I have to fart?

I recommend Orange Glade, no kidding. The saying at least
sounds like (and hey, smells like!), It Happens.

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I would be mortified to lay a stench in that small room.
How have any of you handled this situation in the past. I
have put myself on fart hold before and although it kind
of ruins the session, it is preferable to the alternative.

Agreed.

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I have put myself on fart
hold before and although it kind of ruins the session,
it is preferable to the alternative.

personally, it's always better out than in. let it out. it
might smell. so what. you're human. besides, if you hold it
in, you'll be tensing muscles and not receiving the full
benefit of the massage. i have clients fart all the time.
it's really no big deal.

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I would be mortified to lay a stench in that small room.
How have any of you handled this situation in the past.
I have put myself on fart hold before and although it
kind of ruins the session, it is preferable to the
alternative.

Agreed.

Especially if it's one of those farts that turns out to be
really watery [censored] instead of just gas. It's bad enough to
do one of those in your underpants, but imagine squirting it
out all over the massage table.