A certain someone is discredited

dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers said:

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Well done that man. Can we feed him the letters BHIT for his next investigation?

Tony

On 03 Feb 2004 07:43:25 GMT, dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers wrote:
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All very well, but Smith is only really lambasted for a dubious choice of both logo and affiliation.
There's no mention of his atrocious grasp of statistics, a knowledge so sparse and wretched that he
doesn't even know what he doesn't know. That's where the real harm lies.

It's as bad as YouGov polls: anyone would think nobody read Private Eye any more.

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'Although it claims to be a single-issue group, it has connections with politically motivated
campaigns opposing Britain's membership of the EU and backing field sports.'

Why does this not surprise me at all?

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Cheers, helen s

wonderful, not least for the most fatuously stupid quote I've read recently "But Mr Gregory said its
support had rocketed in recent months amid growing concern about speed cameras: "Motorists are pig
sick of this wurlitzer which is being camouflaged as a safety exercise."

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All very well, but Smith is only really lambasted for a dubious choice of both logo and
affiliation. There's no mention of his atrocious grasp of statistics, a knowledge so sparse and
wretched that he doesn't even know what he doesn't know. That's where the real harm lies.

He's described as scottish too. Note: he's from london and hiding from the real world by moving to
the middle of nowhere.

I'd just like to repeat that he'd find it perfectly safe to go at 150mph on his local A road, or
test the maximum speed of his car on a motorway when he sees fit.

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Cheers, helen s

wonderful, not least for the most fatuously stupid quote I've read recently "But Mr Gregory said
its support had rocketed in recent months amid growing concern about speed cameras: "Motorists are
pig sick of this wurlitzer which is being camouflaged as a safety exercise."

He'd better watch out. The Mighty Wurlitzer was blown up by Grytpype-Thynne for speeding.

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He's described as scottish too. Note: he's from london and hiding from the real world by moving to
the middle of nowhere.

Hey, he's not in the middle of nowhere. He's just in the middle of a lowly populated somewhere. And
if London is the "real world" then I'd choose unreality every time :-)

Graeme

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I'm not sure if the article is implying that Paul Smith is a Nazi, but the SafeSpeed logo is
certainly not "SS" on a red background, nor would any sane person think it is anything but a simple
modification of a speed limit sign, which kinda makes sense?

The Guardian is full of [censored].

Gareth

Gareth Attrill said:

...... the article is implying that Paul Smith is a Nazi,

OMG, I never realised that.

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I'm not sure if the article is implying that Paul Smith is a Nazi, but the SafeSpeed logo is
certainly not "SS" on a red background, nor would any sane person think it is anything but a
simple modification of a speed limit sign, which kinda makes sense?

He wants a final solution to the cyclist problem by removing speed limits ;-)

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burt wrote:

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He'd better watch out. The Mighty Wurlitzer was blown up by Grytpype-Thynne for speeding.

The dirty rotten swine!

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Even if they had 9000 members it's only a tiny percentage of licensed drivers anyway so hardly
representative.
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'Although it claims to be a single-issue group, it has connections with politically motivated
campaigns opposing Britain's membership of the EU and backing field sports.'

Why does this not surprise me at all?

I don't get this at all. What 'connections' does it have as an organisation to anti-EU or pro field
sports groups? If the connections are no more than acting towards a common objective then I don't
see this as worth reporting.

It smacks of an attempt to create a shadowy right-ist conspiracy on the basis that SS and the
Countryside Alliance both want low fuel taxes.

Also, it reeks of poor journalism to need to do this. Challenge the arguments (that's easy enough),
challenge the claim to be 'the voice of the motorist' but who cares if PS is a member of the CA in
his spare time.

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I'm not sure if the article is implying that Paul Smith is a Nazi, but the SafeSpeed logo is
certainly not "SS" on a red background, nor would any sane person think it is anything but a
simple modification of a speed limit sign, which kinda makes sense?

The Guardian is full of [censored].

He did say he finds the UK overpopulated and thought it would be a good idea if the population went
into decline and to ensure the smaller working population weren't burdened hinted that euthanasia
for old folks was acceptable.

Now I'm getting older and that worried me a bit ;-)
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I'm not sure if the article is implying that Paul Smith is a Nazi, but

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He did say he finds the UK overpopulated and thought it would be a good

idea

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if the population went into decline and to ensure the smaller working population weren't burdened
hinted that euthanasia for old folks was acceptable.

And don't forget his comments on the disabled...

Incidentally, I think he's a vanity surfer so using "P**l Sm*th" is recommended ;-)

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He did say he finds the UK overpopulated and thought it would be a good idea if the population
went into decline and to ensure the smaller working population weren't burdened hinted that
euthanasia for old folks was acceptable.

What better way to cull the old codgers than have cars travelling at high speed through
urban streets. Either you skittle them on the roads or they can never get to the shops and
starve to death.

Tony

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Simon Brooke said:

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'Although it claims to be a single-issue group, it has connections with politically motivated
campaigns opposing Britain's membership of the EU and backing field sports.'

Why does this not surprise me at all?

I don't get this at all. What 'connections' does it have as an organisation to anti-EU or pro
field sports groups? If the connections are no more than acting towards a common objective then I
don't see this as worth reporting.

They're all extreme right-wing reactionary stances. The horse owning classes should have the right
to barge across the countryside, making a great nuisnce of themselves and exterminating wildlife;
the car owning classes should have the right to drive around at unlimited speeds in any state of
inebriation that seems appropriate to them, irrespective of whom the kill in the process; and us
little serfs and those nosy beurocrats in Brussels should just butt out. Essentially, their stance
is 'liberty without responsibility for all who can afford it'.

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Also, it reeks of poor journalism to need to do this. Challenge the arguments (that's easy
enough), challenge the claim to be 'the voice of the motorist' but who cares if PS is a member of
the CA in his spare time.

Because, not particularly suspecting that there's any real conspiracy, the same small coterie of right-
wing 'libertarian' loonies turn up in all these places.

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Incidentally, I think he's a vanity surfer so using "P**l Sm*th" is recommended ;-)

That must be the only form of vanity he enjoys. I thought he was a refugee from "The League Of
Gentlemen" when I saw his website.

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Even if they had 9000 members it's only a tiny percentage of licensed drivers anyway so hardly
representative.

And the CTC is representative of how many people who ride a bicycle?

Gareth