8 Year Old Recovers

"M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-May 28, 2004" <M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t
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Good thing he took something safe and effective, not like
toxic tylenol.

And the mother should sue.

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DEL CITY -- The 8-year-old boy who overdosed on Ritalin is
now out of the hospital and recovering at home.

Dakota Loflin's mother said the pills were handed to him
by the school secretary. It was on the last day of school
last week when Dakota ingested the 25 pills. The secretary
had given the boy the bottle to take home.

Dakota's mother is thankful her son is all right, but
she's now pushing

for

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policy changes inside the Mid-Del school district.

Officials with other school districts said they follow a
different procedure.

"The parents are the ones who are supposed to pick up that
medication and we've had cases where parents didn't pick
it up so school nurses actually sent letters home to
parents to let them know it is there to come pick it up,"
one school administrator said.

Now, the Loflin family plans to sue the school for child
endangerment and neglect. The Mid-Del district said it's
investigating the case.

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Good thing he took something safe and effective, not like
toxic tylenol.

And it put him in the hospital for over a week. Yeah, right.

Considering the lawsuit that's coming, I would imagine the
school district's lawyers highly suggested the boy be kept
at the hospital "under observation" for as long as prudent
(& perhaps longer for good measure) to somewhat mitigate
their awkward situation & to show they did "the right
thing".. Obviously, his hospital stay won't be paid for by
his parents nor their insurance company anyway.

On Fri, 28 May 2004 21:41:34 GMT, "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-May 28, 2004"

M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t said:

Now, the Loflin family plans to sue the school for child
endangerment and neglect. The Mid-Del district said it's
investigating the case.

And we get to the usual American punchline to any story
like this.

Remember: When something bad happens to you, it's always
someone else's fault, and you've hit the jackpot!

PF

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Considering the lawsuit that's coming, I would imagine the
school district's lawyers highly suggested the boy be kept
at the hospital "under observation" for as long as prudent
(& perhaps longer for good measure) to somewhat mitigate
their awkward situation & to show they did "the right
thing".. Obviously, his hospital stay won't be paid for by
his parents nor their insurance company anyway.

One has to wonder if it was the parents or the school
district or both who put on pressure to leave the boy in
Hospital longer, if there was any pressure placed at all. To
be honest, I am not sure why this obscure overdose case is
even being discussed here.

r

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On Fri, 28 May 2004 21:41:34 GMT, "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-
May 28, 2004"

M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t said:

Now, the Loflin family plans to sue the school for child
endangerment and neglect. The Mid-Del district said it's
investigating the case.

And we get to the usual American punchline to any story
like this.

Remember: When something bad happens to you, it's always
someone else's fault,

So what if the child had died ? I suppose it would just have
been 'dashed bad bit of luck' ? It's outrageous that
potentially lethal meds are handed over to 8 year-olds.

and you've hit the jackpot!

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PF

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On Fri, 28 May 2004 21:41:34 GMT, "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-
May 28, 2004"

M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t said:

Now, the Loflin family plans to sue the school for child
endangerment and neglect. The Mid-Del district said it's
investigating the case.

And we get to the usual American punchline to any story
like this.

Remember: When something bad happens to you, it's always
someone else's fault, and you've hit the jackpot!

Giving a prescription bottle to an eight year old is just
plain dumb. The fact that itwas the school district's
policy, makes it even dumber.

Check YOUR local school district's policy. If it is as dumb
as this one, start a campaign to change it. My district's
policy is to give the medications ONLY to parents, and no
third parties.

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On Fri, 28 May 2004 21:41:34 GMT, "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-
May 28, 2004"

M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t said:

Now, the Loflin family plans to sue the school for
child endangerment

and

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neglect. The Mid-Del district said it's investigating
the case.

And we get to the usual American punchline to any story
like this.

Remember: When something bad happens to you, it's always
someone else's fault,

So what if the child had died ? I suppose it would just
have been 'dashed bad bit of luck' ? It's outrageous that
potentially lethal meds are handed over to 8

year-olds.

Obvioulsy, the 25 pills wereot lethal, as the child went
home very quick. However, I would hate to see what would be
happening if the child had been given something really
toxic, like Tylenol.

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Considering the lawsuit that's coming, I would imagine
the school district's lawyers highly suggested the boy
be kept at the hospital "under observation" for as long
as prudent (& perhaps longer for good measure) to
somewhat mitigate their awkward situation & to show they
did "the right thing".. Obviously, his hospital stay
won't be paid for by his parents nor their insurance
company anyway.

One has to wonder if it was the parents or the school
district or both who put on pressure to leave the boy in
Hospital longer, if there was any pressure placed at all.
To be honest, I am not sure why this obscure overdose case
is even being discussed here.

It involves the eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeevil medication.

I get a Google News alert on the word Ritalin whenever
it is mentioned in the news. You would not believe what
is reported.

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On Fri, 28 May 2004 21:41:34 GMT, "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-
May 28, 2004"

M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t said:

Now, the Loflin family plans to sue the school for
child endangerment

and

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neglect. The Mid-Del district said it's investigating
the case.

And we get to the usual American punchline to any story
like this.

Remember: When something bad happens to you, it's always
someone else's fault,

So what if the child had died ? I suppose it would just
have been 'dashed bad bit of luck' ? It's outrageous that
potentially lethal meds are handed over to 8

year-olds.

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and you've hit the jackpot!

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PF

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A workable standard policy for any school at the end of the
school year could be that if meds are not picked up within
one week of school ending, it all gets disposed of. I'm
wondering how often Ritalin must be taken and why the
family didn't give it to him at home and leave the school
out of it.

What physical long lasting damage would come from an
overdose? If none, the school should be liable for whatever
medical bills (not covered by the parents insurance)
incurred. Nothing for 'pain and suffering'.

And yes, one isolated case gets a lot of publicity and
causes paranoia.

That's probably the best suggestion so far Mark; go out and
get the policy changed to raise awareness and help prevent
it from happening again.

But for those lazy ones amongst us, just sue. It's only a
couple of phonecalls and maybe your picture on the news!
Never worry that the money you will be awarded will be taken
straight away from the budgets of the money strapped school
system, it will be better spent on you and the spouse taking
well deserved break from the kids on a trip to Vegas.

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On Fri, 28 May 2004 21:41:34 GMT, "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-
May 28, 2004"

M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t said:

Now, the Loflin family plans to sue the school for
child endangerment

and

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neglect. The Mid-Del district said it's investigating
the case.

And we get to the usual American punchline to any story
like this.

Remember: When something bad happens to you, it's always
someone else's fault, and you've hit the jackpot!

Giving a prescription bottle to an eight year old is just
plain dumb. The fact that itwas the school district's
policy, makes it even dumber.

Check YOUR local school district's policy. If it is as
dumb as this one, start a campaign to change it. My
district's policy is to give the medications ONLY to
parents, and no third parties.

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On Fri, 28 May 2004 21:41:34 GMT, "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-
May 28, 2004"

M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t said:

Now, the Loflin family plans to sue the school for
child endangerment

and

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neglect. The Mid-Del district said it's investigating
the case.

And we get to the usual American punchline to any story
like this.

Remember: When something bad happens to you, it's always
someone else's fault, and you've hit the jackpot!

Giving a prescription bottle to an eight year old is just
plain dumb. The fact that itwas the school district's
policy, makes it even dumber.

Check YOUR local school district's policy. If it is as
dumb as this one, start a campaign to change it. My
district's policy is to give the medications ONLY to
parents, and no third parties.

Mark is 100% right on this. mdd

...and you are probably right on the Mark.

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On Fri, 28 May 2004 21:41:34 GMT, "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-
May 28, 2004"
<M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t [email hidden]>
wrote:
>
>Now, the Loflin family plans to sue the school for
>child endangerment

and

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>neglect. The Mid-Del district said it's investigating
>the case.

And we get to the usual American punchline to any
story like this.

Remember: When something bad happens to you, it's
always someone else's fault, and you've hit the
jackpot!

Giving a prescription bottle to an eight year old is
just plain dumb.

The

Quoted message said:

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fact that itwas the school district's policy, makes it
even dumber.

Check YOUR local school district's policy. If it is as
dumb as this one, start a campaign to change it. My
district's policy is to give the medications ONLY to
parents, and no third parties.

Mark is 100% right on this. mdd

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On Fri, 28 May 2004 21:41:34 GMT, "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-
May 28, 2004"
<M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t [email hidden]>
wrote:
>
>Now, the Loflin family plans to sue the school for
>child endangerment

and

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>neglect. The Mid-Del district said it's investigating
>the case.

And we get to the usual American punchline to any
story like this.

Remember: When something bad happens to you, it's
always someone else's fault,

So what if the child had died ? I suppose it would just
have been 'dashed bad bit of luck' ? It's outrageous
that potentially lethal meds are handed over to 8

year-olds.

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and you've hit the jackpot!

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PF

=======================
A workable standard policy for any school at the end of
the school year could be that if meds are not picked up
within one week of school ending, it all gets disposed of.
I'm wondering how often Ritalin must be taken and why the
family didn't give it to him at home and leave the school
out of it.

What physical long lasting damage would come from an
overdose? If none, the school should be liable for
whatever medical bills (not covered by the parents
insurance) incurred. Nothing for 'pain and suffering'.

Well if this isn't trivialising matters, nothing is.

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And yes, one isolated case gets a lot of publicity and
causes paranoia.

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On Fri, 28 May 2004 21:41:34 GMT, "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-
May 28, 2004"
<M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t [email hidden]>
wrote:
>
>Now, the Loflin family plans to sue the school for
>child endangerment

and

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>neglect. The Mid-Del district said it's investigating
>the case.

And we get to the usual American punchline to any
story like this.

Remember: When something bad happens to you, it's
always someone else's fault,

So what if the child had died ? I suppose it would just
have been 'dashed bad bit of luck' ? It's outrageous
that potentially lethal meds are handed over to 8

year-olds.

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and you've hit the jackpot!

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PF

=======================
A workable standard policy for any school at the end of
the school year could be that if meds are not picked up
within one week of school ending, it all gets disposed of.
I'm wondering how often Ritalin must be taken and why the
family didn't give it to him at home and leave the school
out of it.

Firstly, there are many newer, and more expensive,
long acting formulations which will take the school
out of the loop.

Secondly, your idea that the med is disposed of after a week
is a good one. My district does it.

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What physical long lasting damage would come from an
overdose? If none, the school should be liable for
whatever medical bills (not covered by the parents
insurance) incurred. Nothing for 'pain and suffering'.

What about the "pain and suffereing" the proponents of
proper treatment have gone through? 🙂

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And yes, one isolated case gets a lot of publicity and
causes paranoia.

The truly med-parnoids wil claim that it is the
medications fault.

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That's probably the best suggestion so far Mark; go out
and get the policy changed to raise awareness and help
prevent it from happening again.

It is the only logical one. I should have mentioned that the
parents are notified that they have until the Xth of June to
pick up, or the meds wil lbe discarded.

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But for those lazy ones amongst us, just sue. It's only a
couple of phonecalls and maybe your picture on the news!
Never worry that the money you will be awarded will be
taken straight away from the budgets of the money strapped
school system, it will be better spent on you and the

spouse

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taking well deserved break from the kids on a trip
to Vegas.

I know exactly what you are talking about. From 1988 to 1991
I was a member of the school board. One of my best efforts
was a cooperative purchasing program for liability
insurance. We saved a few million over the three years.

And, then our idiot administrators brouight us Mepham High
School. If you do not know what that is all about, look it
up on Google News, or at www.newsday.com.

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On Fri, 28 May 2004 21:41:34 GMT, "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-
May 28, 2004"
<M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t [email hidden]>
wrote:
>
>Now, the Loflin family plans to sue the school for
>child endangerment

and

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>neglect. The Mid-Del district said it's investigating
>the case.

And we get to the usual American punchline to any
story like this.

Remember: When something bad happens to you, it's
always someone else's fault, and you've hit the
jackpot!

Giving a prescription bottle to an eight year old is
just plain dumb.

The

Quoted message said:

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fact that itwas the school district's policy, makes it
even dumber.

Check YOUR local school district's policy. If it is as
dumb as this one, start a campaign to change it. My
district's policy is to give the medications ONLY to
parents, and no third parties.

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On Fri, 28 May 2004 21:41:34 GMT, "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-
May 28, 2004"
<M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t [email hidden]>
wrote:
>
>Now, the Loflin family plans to sue the school for
>child endangerment

and

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>neglect. The Mid-Del district said it's investigating
>the case.

And we get to the usual American punchline to any
story like this.

Remember: When something bad happens to you, it's
always someone else's fault, and you've hit the
jackpot!

Giving a prescription bottle to an eight year old is
just plain dumb.

The

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

fact that itwas the school district's policy, makes it
even dumber.

Check YOUR local school district's policy. If it is as
dumb as this one, start a campaign to change it. My
district's policy is to give the medications ONLY to
parents, and no third parties.

Mark is 100% right on this. mdd

I am consistently nearly 100% correct, but, alas, you never
seem to see it.

However, let me point out that several years ago I did
make a mistake. For just a moment I thought I wrong,
but, was not.

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> On Fri, 28 May 2004 21:41:34 GMT, "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-
> May 28,

2004"

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> <M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t [email hidden]>
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> >Now, the Loflin family plans to sue the school for
> >child

endangerment

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and

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> >neglect. The Mid-Del district said it's
> >investigating the case.
>
> And we get to the usual American punchline to any
> story like this.
>
> Remember: When something bad happens to you, it's
> always someone else's fault,

So what if the child had died ? I suppose it would
just have been 'dashed bad bit of luck' ? It's
outrageous that potentially lethal meds are handed
over to 8

year-olds.

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and you've hit the jackpot!
>
> PF

=======================
A workable standard policy for any school at the end of
the school year could be that if meds are not picked up
within one week of school ending, it all gets disposed
of. I'm wondering how often Ritalin must be taken and
why the family didn't give it to him at home and leave
the school out of it.

What physical long lasting damage would come from an
overdose? If none, the school should be liable for
whatever medical bills (not covered by the parents
insurance) incurred. Nothing for 'pain and suffering'.

Well if this isn't trivialising matters, nothing is.

As I said.....if no 'lasting damage'. I also think that a
parent who has a child taking regular medication needs to be
responsible for educating that child that their medication
is not 'candy'.

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> On Fri, 28 May 2004 21:41:34 GMT, "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-
> May 28,

2004"

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> <M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t [email hidden]>
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> >Now, the Loflin family plans to sue the school for
> >child

endangerment

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and

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> >neglect. The Mid-Del district said it's
> >investigating the case.
>
> And we get to the usual American punchline to any
> story like this.
>
> Remember: When something bad happens to you, it's
> always someone else's fault, and you've hit the
> jackpot!

Giving a prescription bottle to an eight year old is
just plain dumb.

The

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fact that itwas the school district's policy, makes it
even dumber.

Check YOUR local school district's policy. If it is as
dumb as this

one,

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start a campaign to change it. My district's policy is
to give the medications ONLY to parents, and no third
parties.

Mark is 100% right on this. mdd

I am consistently nearly 100% correct, but, alas, you
never seem to see

it.

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However, let me point out that several years ago I did
make a mistake. For just a moment I thought I wrong, but,
was not.

Easy there now, let's not get carried away.