8 Year Old Recovers

"M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-May 28, 2004" <M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t
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Good thing he took something safe and effective, not like toxic tylenol.

And the mother should sue.

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DEL CITY -- The 8-year-old boy who overdosed on Ritalin is now out of the
hospital and recovering at home.

Dakota Loflin's mother said the pills were handed to him by the school
secretary. It was on the last day of school last week when Dakota ingested
the 25 pills. The secretary had given the boy the bottle to take home.

Dakota's mother is thankful her son is all right, but she's now pushing

for

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policy changes inside the Mid-Del school district.

Officials with other school districts said they follow a different
procedure.

"The parents are the ones who are supposed to pick up that medication and
we've had cases where parents didn't pick it up so school nurses actually
sent letters home to parents to let them know it is there to come pick it
up," one school administrator said.

Now, the Loflin family plans to sue the school for child endangerment and
neglect. The Mid-Del district said it's investigating the case.

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Good thing he took something safe and effective, not like toxic tylenol.

And it put him in the hospital for over a week. Yeah, right.

Considering the lawsuit that's coming, I would imagine the school
district's lawyers highly suggested the boy be kept at the hospital
"under observation" for as long as prudent (& perhaps longer for good
measure) to somewhat mitigate their awkward situation & to show they did
"the right thing".. Obviously, his hospital stay won't be paid for by
his parents nor their insurance company anyway.

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Considering the lawsuit that's coming, I would imagine the school
district's lawyers highly suggested the boy be kept at the hospital
"under observation" for as long as prudent (& perhaps longer for good
measure) to somewhat mitigate their awkward situation & to show they did
"the right thing".. Obviously, his hospital stay won't be paid for by
his parents nor their insurance company anyway.

One has to wonder if it was the parents or the school district or both who
put on pressure to leave the boy in Hospital longer, if there was any
pressure placed at all. To be honest, I am not sure why this obscure
overdose case is even being discussed here.

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On Fri, 28 May 2004 21:41:34 GMT, "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-May 28, 2004"

M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t said:

Now, the Loflin family plans to sue the school for child endangerment and
neglect. The Mid-Del district said it's investigating the case.

And we get to the usual American punchline to any story like this.

Remember: When something bad happens to you, it's always someone
else's fault, and you've hit the jackpot!

PF

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On Fri, 28 May 2004 21:41:34 GMT, "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-May 28, 2004"

M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t said:

Now, the Loflin family plans to sue the school for child endangerment and
neglect. The Mid-Del district said it's investigating the case.

And we get to the usual American punchline to any story like this.

Remember: When something bad happens to you, it's always someone
else's fault,

So what if the child had died ?
I suppose it would just have been 'dashed bad bit of luck' ?
It's outrageous that potentially lethal meds are handed over to 8 year-olds.

and you've hit the jackpot!

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PF

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On Fri, 28 May 2004 21:41:34 GMT, "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-May 28, 2004"

M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t said:

Now, the Loflin family plans to sue the school for child endangerment and
neglect. The Mid-Del district said it's investigating the case.

And we get to the usual American punchline to any story like this.

Remember: When something bad happens to you, it's always someone
else's fault, and you've hit the jackpot!

Giving a prescription bottle to an eight year old is just plain dumb. The
fact that itwas the school district's policy, makes it even dumber.

Check YOUR local school district's policy. If it is as dumb as this one,
start a campaign to change it. My district's policy is to give the
medications ONLY to parents, and no third parties.

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On Fri, 28 May 2004 21:41:34 GMT, "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-May 28, 2004"

M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t said:

Now, the Loflin family plans to sue the school for child endangerment

and

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neglect. The Mid-Del district said it's investigating the case.

And we get to the usual American punchline to any story like this.

Remember: When something bad happens to you, it's always someone
else's fault,

So what if the child had died ?
I suppose it would just have been 'dashed bad bit of luck' ?
It's outrageous that potentially lethal meds are handed over to 8

year-olds.

Obvioulsy, the 25 pills wereot lethal, as the child went home very quick.
However, I would hate to see what would be happening if the child had been
given something really toxic, like Tylenol.

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Considering the lawsuit that's coming, I would imagine the school
district's lawyers highly suggested the boy be kept at the hospital
"under observation" for as long as prudent (& perhaps longer for good
measure) to somewhat mitigate their awkward situation & to show they did
"the right thing".. Obviously, his hospital stay won't be paid for by
his parents nor their insurance company anyway.

One has to wonder if it was the parents or the school district or both who
put on pressure to leave the boy in Hospital longer, if there was any
pressure placed at all. To be honest, I am not sure why this obscure
overdose case is even being discussed here.

It involves the eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeevil medication.

I get a Google News alert on the word Ritalin whenever it is mentioned in
the news. You would not believe what is reported.

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On Fri, 28 May 2004 21:41:34 GMT, "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-May 28, 2004"

M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t said:

Now, the Loflin family plans to sue the school for child endangerment

and

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neglect. The Mid-Del district said it's investigating the case.

And we get to the usual American punchline to any story like this.

Remember: When something bad happens to you, it's always someone
else's fault,

So what if the child had died ?
I suppose it would just have been 'dashed bad bit of luck' ?
It's outrageous that potentially lethal meds are handed over to 8

year-olds.

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and you've hit the jackpot!

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PF

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A workable standard policy for any school at the end
of the school year could be that if meds are not picked
up within one week of school ending, it all gets
disposed of. I'm wondering how often Ritalin must be taken
and why the family didn't give it to him at home
and leave the school out of it.

What physical long lasting damage would come
from an overdose? If none, the school should be
liable for whatever medical bills (not covered by
the parents insurance) incurred. Nothing for
'pain and suffering'.

And yes, one isolated case gets a lot of publicity
and causes paranoia.

That's probably the best suggestion so far Mark; go out and get the policy
changed to raise awareness and help prevent it from happening again.

But for those lazy ones amongst us, just sue. It's only a couple of
phonecalls and maybe your picture on the news! Never worry that the money
you will be awarded will be taken straight away from the budgets of the
money strapped school system, it will be better spent on you and the spouse
taking well deserved break from the kids on a trip to Vegas.

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On Fri, 28 May 2004 21:41:34 GMT, "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-May 28, 2004"

M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t said:

Now, the Loflin family plans to sue the school for child endangerment

and

Quoted message said:

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neglect. The Mid-Del district said it's investigating the case.

And we get to the usual American punchline to any story like this.

Remember: When something bad happens to you, it's always someone
else's fault, and you've hit the jackpot!

Giving a prescription bottle to an eight year old is just plain dumb. The
fact that itwas the school district's policy, makes it even dumber.

Check YOUR local school district's policy. If it is as dumb as this one,
start a campaign to change it. My district's policy is to give the
medications ONLY to parents, and no third parties.

Because the child recovered, presumably without injury), I doubt this
will go to trial, but rather a settlement offer made & accepted, which
will likely include a penalty amount for "pain & suffering". I
personally think this is fair.

I believe the school district's liability coverage would also cover all
medical expenses. If the family has private health insurance, it may
pay off tempororarily, but will definitely go after the school distrct
for reimbursement, I think that's called "subrogation" or something in
the insurance lingo.

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Subject: Re: 8 Year Old Recovers
From: "Coleah" [email hidden]
Date: 5/29/2004 7:40 AM Pacific Daylight Time
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I'm wondering how often Ritalin must be taken
and why the family didn't give it to him at home
and leave the school out of it.

perhaps because it is a very short acting drug...thus another dose must be
given around 12 noon.....

hawki.....

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On Fri, 28 May 2004 21:41:34 GMT, "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-May 28, 2004"

M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t said:

Now, the Loflin family plans to sue the school for child endangerment

and

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neglect. The Mid-Del district said it's investigating the case.

And we get to the usual American punchline to any story like this.

Remember: When something bad happens to you, it's always someone
else's fault, and you've hit the jackpot!

Giving a prescription bottle to an eight year old is just plain dumb. The
fact that itwas the school district's policy, makes it even dumber.

Check YOUR local school district's policy. If it is as dumb as this one,
start a campaign to change it. My district's policy is to give the
medications ONLY to parents, and no third parties.

Mark is 100% right on this. mdd

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Subject: Re: 8 Year Old Recovers
From: "Coleah" [email hidden]
Date: 5/29/2004 7:40 AM Pacific Daylight Time
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I'm wondering how often Ritalin must be taken
and why the family didn't give it to him at home
and leave the school out of it.

perhaps because it is a very short acting drug...thus another dose must be
given around 12 noon.....

hawki.....

Yeah, speed is like that.........................

....and you are probably right on the Mark.

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On Fri, 28 May 2004 21:41:34 GMT, "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-May 28, 2004"
<M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t [email hidden]> wrote:
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>Now, the Loflin family plans to sue the school for child endangerment

and

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>neglect. The Mid-Del district said it's investigating the case.

And we get to the usual American punchline to any story like this.

Remember: When something bad happens to you, it's always someone
else's fault, and you've hit the jackpot!

Giving a prescription bottle to an eight year old is just plain dumb.

The

Quoted message said:

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fact that itwas the school district's policy, makes it even dumber.

Check YOUR local school district's policy. If it is as dumb as this one,
start a campaign to change it. My district's policy is to give the
medications ONLY to parents, and no third parties.

Mark is 100% right on this. mdd

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On Fri, 28 May 2004 21:41:34 GMT, "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-May 28, 2004"
<M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t [email hidden]> wrote:
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>Now, the Loflin family plans to sue the school for child endangerment

and

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>neglect. The Mid-Del district said it's investigating the case.

And we get to the usual American punchline to any story like this.

Remember: When something bad happens to you, it's always someone
else's fault,

So what if the child had died ?
I suppose it would just have been 'dashed bad bit of luck' ?
It's outrageous that potentially lethal meds are handed over to 8

year-olds.

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and you've hit the jackpot!

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PF

=======================
A workable standard policy for any school at the end
of the school year could be that if meds are not picked
up within one week of school ending, it all gets
disposed of. I'm wondering how often Ritalin must be taken
and why the family didn't give it to him at home
and leave the school out of it.

What physical long lasting damage would come
from an overdose? If none, the school should be
liable for whatever medical bills (not covered by
the parents insurance) incurred. Nothing for
'pain and suffering'.

Well if this isn't trivialising matters, nothing is.

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And yes, one isolated case gets a lot of publicity
and causes paranoia.

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On Fri, 28 May 2004 21:41:34 GMT, "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-May 28, 2004"
<M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t [email hidden]> wrote:
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>Now, the Loflin family plans to sue the school for child endangerment

and

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>neglect. The Mid-Del district said it's investigating the case.

And we get to the usual American punchline to any story like this.

Remember: When something bad happens to you, it's always someone
else's fault,

So what if the child had died ?
I suppose it would just have been 'dashed bad bit of luck' ?
It's outrageous that potentially lethal meds are handed over to 8

year-olds.

Quoted message said:

and you've hit the jackpot!

Quoted message said:

PF

=======================
A workable standard policy for any school at the end
of the school year could be that if meds are not picked
up within one week of school ending, it all gets
disposed of. I'm wondering how often Ritalin must be taken
and why the family didn't give it to him at home
and leave the school out of it.

Firstly, there are many newer, and more expensive, long acting formulations
which will take the school out of the loop.

Secondly, your idea that the med is disposed of after a week is a good one.
My district does it.

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What physical long lasting damage would come
from an overdose? If none, the school should be
liable for whatever medical bills (not covered by
the parents insurance) incurred. Nothing for
'pain and suffering'.

What about the "pain and suffereing" the proponents of proper treatment have
gone through? 🙂

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And yes, one isolated case gets a lot of publicity
and causes paranoia.

The truly med-parnoids wil claim that it is the medications fault.

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That's probably the best suggestion so far Mark; go out and get the policy
changed to raise awareness and help prevent it from happening again.

It is the only logical one. I should have mentioned that the parents are
notified that they have until the Xth of June to pick up, or the meds wil
lbe discarded.

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But for those lazy ones amongst us, just sue. It's only a couple of
phonecalls and maybe your picture on the news! Never worry that the money
you will be awarded will be taken straight away from the budgets of the
money strapped school system, it will be better spent on you and the

spouse

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taking well deserved break from the kids on a trip to Vegas.

I know exactly what you are talking about. From 1988 to 1991 I was a member
of the school board. One of my best efforts was a cooperative purchasing
program for liability insurance. We saved a few million over the three
years.

And, then our idiot administrators brouight us Mepham High School. If you do
not know what that is all about, look it up on Google News, or at
www.newsday.com.

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On Fri, 28 May 2004 21:41:34 GMT, "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-May 28, 2004"
<M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t [email hidden]> wrote:
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>Now, the Loflin family plans to sue the school for child endangerment

and

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>neglect. The Mid-Del district said it's investigating the case.

And we get to the usual American punchline to any story like this.

Remember: When something bad happens to you, it's always someone
else's fault, and you've hit the jackpot!

Giving a prescription bottle to an eight year old is just plain dumb.

The

Quoted message said:

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fact that itwas the school district's policy, makes it even dumber.

Check YOUR local school district's policy. If it is as dumb as this one,
start a campaign to change it. My district's policy is to give the
medications ONLY to parents, and no third parties.