$600 vs. $6000 bike

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TDF is over, so I assume it's safe to post this without flames.

What's the mph difference between a Trek 1000 with Aurora wheels and a Trek 5900 with Zipp wheels?
How much faster will one go if he or she pays the extra $5400 assuming you are pedalling with the
same power? Will somebody go down to your local Trek dealer tomorrow and test this out.

I'll go with... 1.0 mph faster.

-WG

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Quoted message said:

TDF is over, so I assume it's safe to post this without flames.

What's the mph difference between a Trek 1000 with Aurora wheels and a

Trek

Quoted message said:

5900 with Zipp wheels? How much faster will one go if he or she pays the extra $5400 assuming you
are pedalling with the same power? Will somebody go down to your local Trek dealer tomorrow and
test this out.

Thanks

Jiyang Chen

It depends on who is riding it and where. Most people will not go any faster but it might be more
enjoyable and may or may not shift and handle better. It will feel twice as fast.

The Trek aluminum race bikes cost more than that. Is there a model for $600?

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Quoted message said:

TDF is over, so I assume it's safe to post this without flames.

What's the mph difference between a Trek 1000 with Aurora wheels and a

Trek

Quoted message said:

5900 with Zipp wheels? How much faster will one go if he or she pays the extra $5400 assuming you
are pedalling with the same power? Will somebody go down to your local Trek dealer tomorrow and
test this out.

Thanks

Jiyang Chen

It depends on who is riding it and where. Most people will not go any faster but it might be more
enjoyable and may or may not shift and handle better. It will feel twice as fast.

The Trek aluminum race bikes cost more than that. Is there a model for $600?

I’m sure there are quite a few gains, but like with many other sports, each little increment of improvement has a substantially higher price/performance ratio. So the $5400 extra might make a noticeable difference, but not 10x better, at least for me anyways. Nick is definitely right about who is riding it and where they are riding it. I rode in a local race today, and noticed quite a few people with high end frames and components that had next to no clue how to use them, or really ride effectively at all. I say go for the cheapest bike you can find and have that wonderful satisfaction when you pass someone with a bike that cost 10x as much as yours🙂

Nick: The 2004 Trek 1000 is about $580 and you can often find the 2003 Trek 1000 for less than the advertised $630. I ended up getting this year’s 1000 for $550 with a 10% discount on shoes and pedals.

I hate to hijack this topic, but as a relatively new cyclist I’m not too familiar on the components. My friend’s dad is looking to get into the sport as well and has tried out the 1000 as well. Compared to all the other bikes in his price range he liked it a little bit better. However, as the rainy season will come soon enough he’s debating whether or not to hold off on buying it and waiting for the 2004 version, or getting the 2003 and try and get some riding in before it becomes too wet for him to ride. Again, I’m really new at all of this so I told him I would ask here. In this case, the base price of the 2003 is more than the 2004 but would does it appear to be true in this case that the lower price is slightly worse components?

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What's the mph difference between a Trek 1000 with Aurora wheels and a

Trek

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5900 with Zipp wheels?

I have a 5200 and a 1000 and this is the difference I found. The biggest is with accelerations.
It just takes plain longer to get the 1000 wound up. But once you get it up to speed it's just
as fast as the 5200 and stiffer. So if you ride with people who are constantly attacking to see
who they can drop, the 5200 is the way to go. I did have some road vibration problems with the
1000, but I just put some Profile Design tape on the handlebars, and a carbon seatpost on it,
and solved that problem. This may sound like blasphemy here, but I like the Sora components,
just as well as the Ultrega, but I'm guessing the Sora weighs more. Weight difference is about 4
pounds between both bikes. The 1000 has a longer wheelbase, so if descents scare you, the 1000
is the way to go (longer and lower). The only other difference is endurance. It just seems
easier to do a century ride with a 5200 than a 1000. Not that it's unpleasant with the 1000,
just easier. Now if you have money problems, it's obvious what the answer is.

jiyang-<< What's the mph difference between a Trek 1000 with Aurora wheels and a Trek 5900 with Zipp
wheels? How much faster will one go if he or she pays the extra $5400 assuming you are pedalling
with the same power? >><BR><BR>

Hardly any at all...

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Probably the best thing about spending the big money is the commitment factor.

If you just started riding, it's harder to just give up once you've spent over $5000 on a bike. You
wouldn't feel that bad about quitting if you spent only $500...

Seriously, The last $3500 on that $5500 is not buying you much. You can get a bike that wouldn't
stop you from winning races for not much more than $2000.

Fumitaka Hayashi said:

Seriously, The last $3500 on that $5500 is not buying you much. You can get a bike that wouldn't
stop you from winning races for not much more than $2000.

Get one whose brake pads rub. That way you have got an excuse when you don't win.

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TDF is over, so I assume it's safe to post this without flames. What's the mph difference between a
Trek 1000 with Aurora wheels and a Trek 5900 with Zipp wheels? How much faster will one go if he or
she pays the extra $5400 assuming you are pedalling with the same power? Will somebody go down to
your local Trek dealer tomorrow and test this out.

mph. Isn't it obvious?
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How would a $1000 bike "stop you from winning races", (presuming one was capable of winning)?

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Seriously, The last $3500 on that $5500 is not buying you much. You can get a bike that wouldn't
stop you from winning races for not much more than $2000.

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How would a $1000 bike "stop you from winning races", (presuming one was capable of winning)?

All that extra cash in your pocket is going to weigh you down and make you go slower. 🙂
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Hey Jiyang, Asking how much faster one bike will go than another is not the right way to go about
finding the right bike for you. Under certain conditions you'll probably be getting up to the same
speed on both bikes but there are other advantages with the more expensive bike such as weight,
aerodynamics, and responsiveness. Are you looking to buy a bike and trying to decide between a 5900
and 1000? Or are you just trying to learn what the difference in expensive vs inexpensive bikes are?
And I'm not trying to be rude but I gotta ask, with a question like that why don't you go down to a
Trek dealer yourself and test this out?
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Dave

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TDF is over, so I assume it's safe to post this without flames.

What's the mph difference between a Trek 1000 with Aurora wheels and a Trek 5900 with Zipp wheels?
How much faster will one go if he or she pays the extra $5400 assuming you are pedalling with the
same power? Will somebody go down to your local Trek dealer tomorrow and test this out.

Thanks

Jiyang Chen

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Seriously, The last $3500 on that $5500 is not buying you much. You can get a bike that wouldn't
stop you from winning races for not much more than $2000.

From: "Cycling Past 50 by Joe Friel"

The time trial is the ultimate test of the cyclist... Time trailing is 80-percent body, 10-percent
brain, and 10-percent bike.

There is little doubt that having the right bike makes for faster time trials. How much faster
depends on how much you are willing to spend to buy time.

It's been estimated that while riding at 25 mph on a 40 kilometer course, aero bars..will save 3
minutes, 21 seconds.

A disc wheel...59 seconds.

Aero-bar-end shifters, an aero-drinking system, aero helmet, 18 mm tires, and a deep-rim from
wheel...further reduce 40-kilometer time by 4 minutes, 21 seconds.

A point that he makes throughout the book is that if you are not fit, and you must be fit to ride 25
mph for 40K, then the best bike equipment in the world will not make you a faster cyclist.

First get very fit, then buy your expensive bike.

Dashii

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First get very fit, then buy your expensive bike.

Exactly. Even Chris Carmichal can't help you, unless you follow what he says.

No, I'm not looking for a new bike, and even if I wanted a new bike, I would not spend
$5000-6000 on one.

I was just curious about the mph advantage an expensive bike will have over a cheap one.

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Hey Jiyang, Asking how much faster one bike will go than another is not the right way to go about
finding the right bike for you. Under certain conditions you'll probably be getting up to the same
speed on both bikes but there are other advantages with the more expensive bike such as weight,
aerodynamics, and responsiveness. Are you looking to buy a bike and trying to decide between a
5900 and 1000? Or are you just trying to learn what the difference in expensive vs inexpensive
bikes are? And I'm not trying to be rude but I gotta ask, with a question like that why don't you
go down to a Trek dealer yourself and test this out?
--
Dave

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Quoted message said:

TDF is over, so I assume it's safe to post this without flames.

What's the mph difference between a Trek 1000 with Aurora wheels and a

Trek

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

5900 with Zipp wheels? How much faster will one go if he or she pays

the

Quoted message said:

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extra $5400 assuming you are pedalling with the same power? Will

somebody

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Quoted message said:

go down to your local Trek dealer tomorrow and test this out.

Thanks

Jiyang Chen

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No, I'm not looking for a new bike, and even if I wanted a new bike, I would not spend
$5000-6000 on one.

I was just curious about the mph advantage an expensive bike will have over a cheap one.

I answered that, and it's because of the wheels.

-WG

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Hey Jiyang, Asking how much faster one bike will go than another is not the right way to go
about finding the right bike for you. Under certain conditions you'll probably be getting up to
the same speed on both bikes but there are other advantages with the more expensive bike such as
weight, aerodynamics, and responsiveness. Are you looking to buy a bike and trying to decide
between a 5900 and 1000? Or are you just trying to learn what the difference in expensive vs
inexpensive bikes are? And I'm not trying to be rude but I gotta ask, with a question like that
why don't you go down to a Trek dealer yourself and test this out?
--
Dave

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Quoted message said:

TDF is over, so I assume it's safe to post this without flames.

What's the mph difference between a Trek 1000 with Aurora wheels and a

Trek

Quoted message said:

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5900 with Zipp wheels? How much faster will one go if he or she pays

the

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extra $5400 assuming you are pedalling with the same power? Will

somebody

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go down to your local Trek dealer tomorrow and test this out.

Thanks

Jiyang Chen