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whats a 700c?

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700c is 28 or 29 inch depending on the tire. 700c is just the rim size.

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north said:

*whats a 700c? *

That's the the size of your typical road bike wheel with the really
skinny tires

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Whats with all the standard stuff 5"

I would probably say for most general riding 125's are ideal on a 700c
wheel. Although my opinion is void becasue I dont own one.

Please though stick to metric on crank lenghts and all arround unicycle
talk. I dont need for anyone making more stuff with standard bolts I
have a hard enough time with profile doing it....

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north said:

*whats a 700c? *

Annoying answer: It's four characters you can type into Google or
similar.

Slightly less annoying answer: Possibly the most common bicycle rim size
in the world.

I still need to get one so I can answer the original question. Since I
will use mine for racing, I will probably go for something shorter than
125mm (5"😉. But I may also use it for the 24 Hours of Adrenaline, for
which I will probably use 150mm.

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John, you could always...

***REFORGE A SCHWINN FRAME***

like I did to make your own 700c unicycle! Cheaper, and more UNIque
than the ho-hum store-bought versions...

I'll have pics sometime. I don't have a digital camera (because I used
to think that they were evil)

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I can't vote, you don't have 110's (4 1/2"😉

I tried 102's with a 28 tire and found them too squirly, especially down
hills, and when fatigued too hard to stay on top of.

I switched to 125's and they felt huge. Very comfortable though. I also
switched to a 29er tire.

I finally got a pair of BE 110's, I took them out for an 8 mile road
ride last Sunday on a route that had a large variety of grades and about
3/4 mile of gravel path. I had to be more carefull down hill than on the
125's but found them very good for all-around riding.

They are harder to idle on than 125's.

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I will vote in the coming weeks. I just ordered 127mm cranks for my 29er
today. Someone who will be riding a 29er in the LBI Unithon told me he
uses 110mm cranks and I'm hoping to work my way down so I can dream of
keeping up.

Raphael Lasar
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I like 125's (5"😉 as well, I've ridden many miles with them.

I tried 110's for a week or two and found them too short, had a bad fall
with them and then went back to 125's. If I lived somewhere with a lot
less hills I could be tempted to go shorter, but, for Sheffield, 110's
are not good.

Only had a very brief go with 150's and they felt too long- they're
great on my muni but for the 700c I wanted the extra speed and small
pedaling circle.

The 700c with a fat tyre (ie 29-er) and 5" cranks is an awsome machine.

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I use 125's on my 700c (skinny road tire, not fat 29er). I've never
tried anything smaller, but the 125's seem to be enough of a challenge
on some of these Virginia hills. I'd still like a pair of those Tour de
Force carbon fiber adjustable cranks. Nathan Hoover's showed wear after
some small muni drops, but my uni's made for road only anyway so there
probably wouldn't be as much pressure on them. I think they adjust from
110 to 150. I'm training about 10 miles a day now for the MS 150 Bike
Tour in June. It'd be nice if I could get a pair before then.

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I use 125mm cranks on my 29er most of the time...i tried 110's for a
while, and really like the smooth feel, but never could get comfortable
with them on the downhills. I did put a set of 140's on it for a short
time, and that gives lots of control on easy trails and x/c, but most of
my riding is on the roads, and the 125's seem to be just about right.
It's mostly just a matter of personal preference and the terrain you'll
be riding on.

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I have tried 150, 125 and 110. I prefer 125. On 110 I can go slightly
faster but I like to keep the speed down to where I can run out, and
for that 125's are enough. And I like the additional control of the
125's over the 110's.

BTW, suggestive thread title in more than one way.

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I use my 700c mainly for roads and flattish tracks, with occasional
light cross country. I bought it with 110s, and after a brief
experiment with 125s, went back to 110s.

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Sorry about the thread title. I tried to change it with an edit (as you
can tell by the real poll title, but the name just stuck.

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hopeful said:

*John, you could always...

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No thanks, Hopeful. If I wanted a heavy-ass, flexi thing that would be
easy to arrange from parts I have laying around. But for racing
especially, you want a rigid frame that responds to all input (or lack
thereof) into the seat and pedals. A cheap and boring Yuni frame (or
similar) will weigh a lot less than the Schwinn equivalent (before
lengthening), and perform quite a bit better.

But I don't know what size cranks yet...

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hm. as i've never known anyone with a yuni frame, i've never gotten to
try it. i think my entire schwinn setup (from seat to wheel weighs 14
pounds.)

agreed, i'm not marvelling in it's lightness, but the rotational mass is
much less now that i've built a new wheel with a sun alloy double-wall
rim instead of the old raleigh england 700c steel rim i was using.

so perhaps I am looking to get schooled at UNICON this year by racers
that have lighter, newer frames, but I am just happy to be riding a 700c
that i designed and built with my own 2 hands.

perhaps I will get laughed at and mocked for it's 2.5 tone black and
white paintjob, and for the fact that it's not the *hottest ride out
there* but that's not what it's about for me.

For me, unicycling is a religion. Unicycling, as one of my friends put
it so well is "finding that magic balance that makes flying possible, or
at least falling less probable" and maybe I'm not a world-class rider.
maybe i don't deserve to go to UNICON, but someone has to come in last,
and if it's me, then I'm just happy that nobody else had to do it.

But I'll sure as heck be the only 700c racer from Charlotte, NC that
trains on the city streets by racing the bike messengers while dodging
pedestrians, hot dog vendors, skateboarders, dogs, and almost getting
hit by cars while wearing my cycling shorts, helmet, and bike shoes on
my...

self-designed
reforged
handbuilt 1976 schwinn frame
with a wheel i built myself
and 5" cranks
ending with toeclipped pedals and straps

btw, i don't find it flexy at all.

(I'm not ranting at you, John, I'm just ranting because I'm still trying
to get over circus school auditions... Not only did I go there and get
totally amazed by the other applicants and current students , but I also
took that opportunity to make a fool out of myself for thinking that I
might even have a chance to go to that school. ever. heh. not after
seeing people do standing back layouts for part of their auditions.)

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JJuggle said:

*I will vote in the coming weeks. I just ordered 127mm cranks for my
29er today. Someone who will be riding a 29er in the LBI Unithon told
me he uses 110mm cranks and I'm hoping to work my way down so I can
dream of keeping up.

Raphael Lasar
Matawan, NJ *

OK, I voted and it is a solid 150mm. I've been riding now for a couple
of weeks on the 125mms and I don't like them. Perhaps it's because I'm
too short or whatever, but I find that I've got way less control in
mounting and idling and when riding around in traffic that is not
acceptable.

For the Unithon which is flat and there's not that much traffic, I'll
put the 125mms back on, but for everyday use it's 150s all the way.

Raphael Lasar
Matawan, NJ

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hopeful said:

*so perhaps I am looking to get schooled at UNICON this year by racers
that have lighter, newer frames, but I am just happy to be riding a
700c that i designed and built with my own 2 hands.*

Building your own is a great learning experience. I built my own first
dedicated MUni from a Schwinn frame, but I didn't lengthen it, which
caused the tire to rub whenever you pedaled hard. This taught me what to
look for and what to avoid in future designs.

When it comes to racing, it really doesn't matter what you're on. It's
the "engine" that separates the fast from the slow, and the equipment is
a very minor factor. I've been on a custom, lightweight, purpose-built
track machine and been beaten by a double-spoked Schwinn with a very
heavy wheel. It's all in the engine.

Quoted message said:

*...maybe I'm not a world-class rider. maybe i don't deserve to go to
UNICON, but someone has to come in last, and if it's me, then I'm just
happy that nobody else had to do it.*

UNICON is for everyone. The CON means convention and the competitions
are only supposed to be part of it. All are welcome. I look forward to
meeting a rider from Charlotte, the "other" city I had to choose from
when moving out to Sacramento.

I'm still waiting for my own 29er to arrive. Probably barely in time to
set it up before driving down to Laguna Seca. I'll have to figure out
optimum crank length on my practice riding of the course! I think I'll
start with 140s, but seeing the course will help.

Yesterday I went on a 10 mile Coker ride with 170s. It was great on the
flats and downhills (shorter cranks are scary on the downhills), but it
still sucked on the uphills. But maybe that's just the nature of
uphills? If I'm used to riding up the same hill with 170s on a 26" MUni,
of course it's going to feel hard. But the speed is much higher on the
easier sections...

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