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  1. Summary, First in my age division 40-44, but more importantly, first OVER ALL!!! Time 54:46, was also the fastest time recorded for that event since they've been doing it, and was nearly 3 minutes faster than the old record, so I am one happy camper. 🙂

    I don't do much racing, based on where I live, and really only get to do 1 real race a year. BUT, that said, it's my personal Tour de' France, so to speak, and I'm dang proud of it. 🙂 It's a victory for all of us guys with jobs only putting in about 2500-3000 miles a year.

    Here's the story. It's our "State Games". It's 20 miles, 700 feet of climbing, 3900 feet in elevation. I ended up losing a chain at the 2004 games with 6 miles to go, lost my break away group, and that was that, I finished alone about 3 minutes out of the hunt, for a final position of 13th over all and 3rd in my age division. I was running in the lead group when the bike dropped the chain, and I'd been thinking, "what if" for the last year.

    This summer I trained harder, ate better, lost a few pounds and had a plan. I REALLY wanted to win. I was familiar with the course, it's distances, how far I could sprint, and at what intensities, the whole she-bang... I was ready this year.

    Here's the race:

    It's a mass start, with 3 total groups. The 20, 40, 60 mile groups. We ride up the road about 2 miles, we hang a right, go down this deep valley, and the long mileage guys go on a different course. I knew I wanted to be one of the first riders to the corner so I could see where everybody was and keep track of who went by. I got in with a group of about 10-12 riders that started to seperate from the rest of the pack. I did my fair share of pace making and we had a good line going. There was one large guy that decended like a rocket, I wasted a lot of energy catching him the first time. Then realized he slowed on the flats and we caught him everytime, so I quit trying to go after him.

    We got to the bottom of the hills, at the turnaround. There are still about 10-12 of us in the lead group. I'm trying to stay in the front 5 in case somebody cracks or breaks away, you'd have time to react. I look back, and the second group is a fair distance back, not likely to catch us. We hit the first 5% and before it's over, we lost 2 riders. Second bit of 5% we lost a few more. By the 3rd bit of 4-5% I looked back and we lost everybody but me and 2 other riders. Just the 3 of us. We worked together pretty hard to keep the lead. some of the stuff we went up last year at 10.8-11mph we were going up at 15 mph this year. I felt pretty strong. Legs were good. I did feel like I was short on air a few times, and came really close on one climb to falling off the back. That's when I started to pay attention to how much work I should be doing up front, so I've got enough left to still hang on to the back and recover a bit. I stayed on the front a few times to 165-170hr, and then decided that I should stop about 160-165 instead. Blow up on the front, and it seems as though you got nothing left to hang onto the back when it's your turn to recover.

    The 3 of us get out of the valley hit the flatter stuff and averaged 23.5mph to the finish line for the last 4 miles. We continued to work together right up until I decided it was time for the sprint. I had been training more than usual, and new I could crush it for over a mile if I had to. BUT if the other 2 guys worked together, they might have caught me. I waited until we were 1/2 mile out, and I went for it. I'd have rather gone and failed than sat there watching somebody else go.

    My pulse was 160 when I started the sprint, and I'd been holding that for about the last 5 minutes. I'm in third on the road, the guy in front finishes his pull at the front, as he comes back past me, I open it up, it's a half mile now to go. I don't mean that I just make an acceleration, I mean harder than I had ever opened it up ever, EVER! I lost last year because of a mechanical difficulty, and I wanted this pretty bad to prove to myself I could do it. I'd had a year to sulk and wallow, and I was NOT going to give up. As I go by to take the lead, the guy in front of me reacts, and I look back and keep an eye on his shadow every 5 seconds or so. He's back about 3 lengths. I'm flailing side to side, I got sweat all over my glasses, I can hardly see i'm all over the bike doing 116-130 cadence, my lungs are on fire as I pass the 200 meters to go sign. I have no idea how fast I'm going, HR, nothing. Just peddaling like my whole body is on fire, and it was. I remember thinking about the 200 meter sign, and thinking, [censored], I went to soon, I'm dying, I have no more acceleration left. Mercifully, at 30+mph (max in my sprint was 35) 200 meters ticked by in like 8-10 seconds. I was out of the saddle for the last 200 meters, legs burning, begging me to stop. I crossed the line for the win in my age group, but more importantly, the win over all !!! I'd come back from last year and got this demon off my back. 😄 Looking at my HRM, the sprint was about 50 seconds long (seemed like an eternity) and I hit 177hr on the meter. That's the highest I'd seen this year. And if you're gonna do it, that would be the time to pull it off. I'd done some watt testing, and could only get to 170, so figured 170 was my maxx.... I guess not 🙂

    I beat the old record of 57:10 with a time of 54:46 (a 2:44 pace, and I was very happy with that). I was understandably elated. Truth be known though, I can't say enough about the other 2 guys. None of us could have done it without the other 2. We all worked hard, pulled our weight, and shared the work, right up until the bitter end. The other 2 guys finished back about 4 seconds for second and the other guy about 8 seconds further back. All 3 of us beat the old record. That was pretty cool.

    I ended hanging out with the second place guy for a while, and now we are buds, that's cool too. We all knew it was like a team thing, we all tried and the 3 of us beat everybody else.

    I also learned some important race things. NEVER judge a book by it's cover. You have NO idea who's fast or who isn't (unless you know some of the people or have raced with them before). The shine on their bike or hole in an old jersey is NO indicator of anything... Huge legs, small calves, beer belly, all are practically meaningless. I found that to be pretty cool.

    Good racing to all, and thanks to all my riding buddies on the forums. You guys are my only riding buddys. 🙂

  2. Hey, Stormer, congratulations on a great race and a great race report. I really enjoyed reading your thoughts on strategy as the race went on. Thank goodness for hills -- they do have a way of thinning out the field. I wish you had your PM, because I'd be interested in your power numbers on the climbs and the sprint. I do think you went a bit early on the sprint; 1/2 mile is a pretty long sprint. But, it sounds like the other guys were pretty well spent from working on the break and couldn't hang with you at the first acceleration. You were smart to save yourself on the break, but when you get your PM you'll notice two things: (1) there is a huge difference between the power required on front and the power required to draft at the same speed; and (2) you recover very quickly after you drop the watts. To give an example, if you are pulling 250w on front, you can probably sit in at ~150w and so with three guys pulling equal time on front you're averaging about 185w. After you have these numbers for yourself, you'll be more comfortable pulling at the front. Anyway, great race and great report. So, what's next -- state championships? Paul

  3. RapDaddyo said:

    Hey, Stormer, congratulations on a great race and a great race report. I really enjoyed reading your thoughts on strategy as the race went on. Thank goodness for hills -- they do have a way of thinning out the field. I wish you had your PM, because I'd be interested in your power numbers on the climbs and the sprint. I do think you went a bit early on the sprint; 1/2 mile is a pretty long sprint. But, it sounds like the other guys were pretty well spent from working on the break and couldn't hang with you at the first acceleration. You were smart to save yourself on the break, but when you get your PM you'll notice two things: (1) there is a huge difference between the power required on front and the power required to draft at the same speed; and (2) you recover very quickly after you drop the watts. To give an example, if you are pulling 250w on front, you can probably sit in at ~150w and so with three guys pulling equal time on front you're averaging about 185w. After you have these numbers for yourself, you'll be more comfortable pulling at the front. Anyway, great race and great report. So, what's next -- state championships? Paul

    Technically, that was our state championships. 🙂 But I'm not kidding myself, the 40 and 60 miler cat 1-2 guys are the show, not us low category riders. I was looking at some of the times in the 60, and I might have been able to pull out a third in my age group with a 2:44 pace. Kind of depends on the course profile, and who you hook up with. It's all an educated guess. But I feel strong right now. I hooked up with a coach for some advice. I've been training differently from what I was doing/guessing on my own. I've only been with this guy 2.5 weeks, but I'm pretty sure I would not have had the same result without his ideas. I think I was overtraining and under-recovering when I was training myself. I think I've got to much of the "no-pain, no-gain" attitude stuck in me, because that's apparently not entirely accurate for cycling. I was ALWAYS sore when I trained myself. Now I'm fitter, not sore, and faster (at least I feel faster), seems like a good setup so far.

    Yea, I wish I had that power meter. Finally ordered it though. Got an SL hub coming, putting it on a 404 clincher wheel. Was going to do a tubular, but I train to much in the middle of nowhere, and need to be able to change a tire, so I had to make a little sacrifice on weight and go with a clincher. I wasn't going to get a light Powertap wheel setup until I found out Landis is riding with one in the TOUR. If he's not worried about the weight at that level, I'm an idiot for worrying about it (as opposed to riding without a powertap hub). So I decided to get a lighter wheel so I could race it if I felt like it.

  4. stormer94 said:

    ...Was going to do a tubular, but I train to much in the middle of nowhere, and need to be able to change a tire...

    Good write-up, Stormer, and well done. The best part is that you obviously enjoyed yourself. I'm a little curious on your comment on the reason for not going tubular - tubulars are very easy to change out on the road. Roll one off, roll one on, pump it up and go. Keep up the riding.

  5. stormer94 said:

    Technically, that was our state championships. 🙂

    Are you going to enter the MT TT championships -- 8/13 in Missoula, I think?

  6. RapDaddyo said:

    Are you going to enter the MT TT championships -- 8/13 in Missoula, I think?

    Missoula?! That's like an 8 hour drive from here, and I'm in the same state! :eek:

    I actually looked around and couldn't find any information on it... as lame as that sounds. I enjoy time trialing, I wouldn't mind doing it just to say I did. Mind you the only TT stuff I have ever done, was a 17 mile course I marked out on some flat local road. I've done it about a dozen times. Always by myself. 🙁

  7. EoinC said:

    Good write-up, Stormer, and well done. The best part is that you obviously enjoyed yourself. I'm a little curious on your comment on the reason for not going tubular - tubulars are very easy to change out on the road. Roll one off, roll one on, pump it up and go. Keep up the riding.

    Thanks for the kind words.

    Seriously? i thought they were glued on? I've got a set of 909's that are tubular and my local shop glued them on. I was under the impression that they didn't roll off or on, had to be glued, glue cleaned, re-applied, etc. I will admit to some ignorance on the subject, which is sad, as I own a pair of tubulars. I just hope they never get a puncture... 😄 I know it seems they are flat ALL THE TIME!? What's the deal with that?

  8. stormer94 said:

    I actually looked around and couldn't find any information on it.

    I couldn't find a link to the event flyer, but this is on the USA Cycling site.
    usacycling.orgindex.php

  9. stormer94 said:

    Thanks for the kind words.

    Seriously? i thought they were glued on? I've got a set of 909's that are tubular and my local shop glued them on. I was under the impression that they didn't roll off or on, had to be glued, glue cleaned, re-applied, etc. I will admit to some ignorance on the subject, which is sad, as I own a pair of tubulars. I just hope they never get a puncture... 😄 I know it seems they are flat ALL THE TIME!? What's the deal with that?

    the glue is like a contact adhesive. When you let the air out (or puncture), you can just pull them off the side of the rim. All you need to carry is a spare tubular (with rim cement already applied and dry) and a pump. You roll the tubular onto the rim (no levers required) and pump it up enough for it to hold its shape. Run around the rim making sure that the tubular is centred, and then pump up to the full pressure. At full pressure, the tubular is pushed into the rim and the glue / cement helps stop it from moving. I suggest you take youe tubulars down to the LBS and get them to show you what to do. It's a lot easier than it probably sounds. Tubulars at full pressure have little rolling resistance and ride nicely.

  10. Nice write up....way to go! Be careful your critics will start the rumors of drug useage ( seems so common in these forums ).

    Anyway, you should be proud.

    Doug ( down and out with kidney stones, and yes I am using drugs!!!)

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