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  1. It's disappointing that in the #1 race on the domestic calendar unknown
    Euros can come over and take 1&2. Is the US Peloton that far behind? An
    what's with HealthNet? No American on the roster worthy of being set-up for
    the finale?

  2. "BC" wrote ...

    Quoted message said:

    It's disappointing that in the #1 race on the domestic calendar unknown
    Euros can come over and take 1&2. Is the US Peloton that far behind?

    Americans have won 10 of the 20 USPro cycling championships.
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/2003/jun03/wachovia03/?id=USPRO_results
    Nothing wrong with that.

    JF

  3. "Jim Flom" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:kT8xc.34139$DV4.16180@clgrps13...

    Quoted message said:

    "BC" wrote ...

    Quoted message said:

    It's disappointing that in the #1 race on the domestic calendar unknown
    Euros can come over and take 1&2. Is the US Peloton that far behind?

    Americans have won 10 of the 20 USPro cycling championships.
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/2003/jun03/wachovia03/?id=USPRO_results
    Nothing wrong with that.

    No one is marking the Euros and all of the top US riders are busy marking
    each other. What the hell would you expect from a situation like that?

  4. Tom Kunich said:

    "Jim Flom" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:kT8xc.34139$DV4.16180@clgrps13...

    Quoted message said:

    "BC" wrote ...

    Quoted message said:

    It's disappointing that in the #1 race on the domestic calendar unknown
    Euros can come over and take 1&2. Is the US Peloton that far behind?

    Americans have won 10 of the 20 USPro cycling championships.
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/2003/jun03/wachovia03/?id=USPRO_results
    Nothing wrong with that.

    No one is marking the Euros and all of the top US riders are busy marking
    each other. What the hell would you expect from a situation like that?

    Effectively this was a small escape bunch at the end that Freddy managed
    to latch onto the back of. I'm surprised he got away with it.

  5. Americans are only batting .500 in their own domestic championships
    race, yet the field is always predominantly compsed of Americans. A
    few Europeans come over to latch on to the free gravy giveaway.

    THAT'S PRETTY [censored] SAD.

    We may as well turn the race back into a 100k crit like they did back
    in 83 (when Johnny Useless took the stars and stripes jersey with his
    15th place behind Phinney and Bauer)

    Seems Eddy B was right when he said that most new US Pros take out
    their licenses so they can brag to their girlfriends that they are pro
    bike racers.

    "Jim Flom" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<kT8xc.34139$DV4.16180@clgrps13>...

    Quoted message said:

    "BC" wrote ...

    Quoted message said:

    It's disappointing that in the #1 race on the domestic calendar unknown
    Euros can come over and take 1&2. Is the US Peloton that far behind?

    Americans have won 10 of the 20 USPro cycling championships.
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/2003/jun03/wachovia03/?id=USPRO_results
    Nothing wrong with that.

    JF

  6. "kaiser" wrote...

    Quoted message said:

    Americans are only batting .500 in their own domestic championships
    race, yet the field is always predominantly compsed of Americans. A
    few Europeans come over to latch on to the free gravy giveaway.

    THAT'S PRETTY F------- SAD.

    It's better than the French and the TdF.

    Jim Flom

  7. "Jim Flom" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:N6oxc.46$cS.34@edtnps89...

    Quoted message said:

    "kaiser" wrote...

    Quoted message said:

    Americans are only batting .500 in their own domestic championships
    race, yet the field is always predominantly compsed of Americans. A
    few Europeans come over to latch on to the free gravy giveaway.

    THAT'S PRETTY F------- SAD.

    It's better than the French and the TdF.

    Why do you suppose they close the French national championships to French
    only?

  8. [email hidden] (kaiser) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Americans are only batting .500 in their own domestic championships
    race, yet the field is always predominantly compsed of Americans. A
    few Europeans come over to latch on to the free gravy giveaway.

    THAT'S PRETTY [censored] SAD.

    It's a European sport.

    Quoted message said:


    We may as well turn the race back into a 100k crit like they did back
    in 83 (when Johnny Useless took the stars and stripes jersey with his
    15th place behind Phinney and Bauer)

    Eustice deserves a lot more respect than that.

    Quoted message said:


    Seems Eddy B was right when he said that most new US Pros take out
    their licenses so they can brag to their girlfriends that they are pro
    bike racers.

    No, he was wrong. Most bike racers do not have girlfriends, nor would
    that be likely to help one get a girlfriend. Most racers turn pro to
    compensate for having been awful at dodgeball.

    -RJ

    PS Not every Eddie in cycling is spelled 'Eddy.' Only Eddy spells it
    that way. If you can't spell Borysewicz, at least get Eddie right.

    Quoted message said:


    "Jim Flom" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<kT8xc.34139$DV4.16180@clgrps13>...

    Quoted message said:

    "BC" wrote ...

    Quoted message said:

    It's disappointing that in the #1 race on the domestic calendar unknown
    Euros can come over and take 1&2. Is the US Peloton that far behind?

    Americans have won 10 of the 20 USPro cycling championships.
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/2003/jun03/wachovia03/?id=USPRO_results
    Nothing wrong with that.

    JF

  9. "Tom Kunich" ...

    Quoted message said:


    Why do you suppose they close the French national championships to French
    only?

    I'll bet it's so that it's harder for a foreigner to win.

  10. On 8 Jun 2004 18:22:16 -0700, [email hidden] (Ronaldo

    Jeremiah) said:

    Eustice deserves a lot more respect than that.

    Its OK, he did OK on the commissions for the white sun block he seemed
    to be wearing all the time. If he could have swung it into the same
    kind of craze that Greg did with the wrap-around sunglasses, he'd be a
    rich man today...

    Curtis L. Russell
    Odenton, MD (USA)
    Just someone on two wheels...

  11. I think John used the zinc oxide due to the massive facial scars he
    sustained from a very bad crash not long before that. But man, he
    sure looked like a Fred with that getup.

    No disrespect intened towards John. Great bike racer. I just can
    never resist using his old nickname.

    But I'd be content having no national champion at all for a year if no
    US rider can even crack the top-10 in the champs.

    Curtis L. Russell <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    On 8 Jun 2004 18:22:16 -0700, [email hidden] (Ronaldo

    Jeremiah) said:

    Eustice deserves a lot more respect than that.

    Its OK, he did OK on the commissions for the white sun block he seemed
    to be wearing all the time. If he could have swung it into the same
    kind of craze that Greg did with the wrap-around sunglasses, he'd be a
    rich man today...

    Curtis L. Russell
    Odenton, MD (USA)
    Just someone on two wheels...

  12. In article <[email hidden]>, kaiser

    Quoted message said:

    I think John used the zinc oxide due to the massive facial scars he
    sustained from a very bad crash not long before that. But man, he
    sure looked like a Fred with that getup.

    No disrespect intened towards John. Great bike racer. I just can
    never resist using his old nickname.

    Yes, a bike racer without a cool nickname would be useless, eh?

    -WG
    (East Coast during the 80's)

  13. (kaiser) said:


    But I'd be content having no
    national champion at all for a year if no
    US rider can even crack the top-10
    in the champs.

    There were three or four in the top 10 this year, and I think that is
    typical.

    JT

  14. Well, lets at least settle on some standard of excllence. How about
    cracking the top-three in order to qualify for a championship jersey?

    John Forrest Tomlinson <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    (kaiser) said:


    But I'd be content having no
    national champion at all for a year if no
    US rider can even crack the top-10
    in the champs.

    There were three or four in the top 10 this year, and I think that is
    typical.

    JT

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