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  1. I'd like to run a 38/42 or possibly a 38/44 setup on my cyclocross bike
    (DA 9spd drivetrain).

    All the 42t chainrings I see are inner chainrings. Will they work on
    the outside? Or should I try an unramped 3/32 chainring instead?

    Thanks,
    Erik

  2. erikv said:

    I'd like to run a 38/42 or possibly a 38/44 setup on my cyclocross bike
    (DA 9spd drivetrain).

    All the 42t chainrings I see are inner chainrings. Will they work on
    the outside? Or should I try an unramped 3/32 chainring instead?

    Thanks,
    Erik

    I don't know, but let me know how you get on. When I go on my yearly
    bike holiday shortly I'm thinking of running a 42 on the outside of my
    triple in a 42,39,30 combo. I'd say 42 would be plenty as I'm not really
    interested in seeing what numbers I can pull going downhill when loaded.

  3. MTB triples are nearly all 42/44 on the outside

    SW

    "erikv" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    I'd like to run a 38/42 or possibly a 38/44 setup on my cyclocross bike
    (DA 9spd drivetrain).

    All the 42t chainrings I see are inner chainrings. Will they work on
    the outside? Or should I try an unramped 3/32 chainring instead?

    Thanks,
    Erik

  4. In article <[email hidden]>,

    erikv said:

    I'd like to run a 38/42 or possibly a 38/44 setup on my cyclocross bike
    (DA 9spd drivetrain).

    All the 42t chainrings I see are inner chainrings. Will they work on
    the outside? Or should I try an unramped 3/32 chainring instead?

    Thanks,
    Erik

    You can use both pinned/ramped and plain chainrings in the outermost
    position. It's the pins and ramps of the larger chainring you're
    shifting TO that are engaged by the chain, not those of the chainring
    your shifting from; so shifting to a pinned and ramped outer chainring
    will definitely be smoother than to a plain one.

    There is a caveat though: better chainrings designed for the outermost
    position have a stud meant to prevent the chain jamming against the
    crank when the it derails to the outboard. Middle/inner chainrings lack
    this feature.

    Luke

  5. erikv said:

    I'd like to run a 38/42 or possibly a 38/44 setup on my cyclocross bike
    (DA 9spd drivetrain).

    All the 42t chainrings I see are inner chainrings. Will they work on
    the outside? Or should I try an unramped 3/32 chainring instead?

    Thanks,
    Erik

    Non pinned/ramped chainrings work. Not as quickly, easily as
    pinned/ramped. If you want a pinned/ramped 42 chainring, buy a TA
    brand. Or buy a middle replacement chainring for a Shimano triple road
    crankset. Shimano triple cranksets come with 52-42-30 rings. Get the
    42 replacement ring and put it on your bike in the outer position.

  6. erikv said:

    I'd like to run a 38/42 or possibly a 38/44 setup on my cyclocross bike
    (DA 9spd drivetrain).

    All the 42t chainrings I see are inner chainrings. Will they work on
    the outside? Or should I try an unramped 3/32 chainring instead?

    Thanks,
    Erik

    Sure, with a well adjusted front der or TA makes a 42t 'outer' with pin
    and ramps and such.

    Remember, once upon a time, on a cycle far, far away, big rings didn't
    have pickup pins or ramps...even with 'STI'

  7. erikv said:

    I'd like to run a 38/42 or possibly a 38/44 setup on my cyclocross bike
    (DA 9spd drivetrain).

    All the 42t chainrings I see are inner chainrings. Will they work on
    the outside? Or should I try an unramped 3/32 chainring instead?

    Thanks,
    Erik

    Road triple cranksets from Shimano come with 42 tooth middle
    chainrings. These have ramps and pins to get the ring up from the
    inner chainring. Just buy a replacement 42 tooth chainring for a
    triple crankset and put it on the outside. Any shop that deals in
    Shimano can get these.

    A plain 42 ring without ramps and pins will also work, if not quite as
    quickly.

  8. erikv said:

    I'd like to run a 38/42 or possibly a 38/44 setup on my cyclocross bike
    (DA 9spd drivetrain).

    All the 42t chainrings I see are inner chainrings. Will they work on
    the outside? Or should I try an unramped 3/32 chainring instead?

    Either setup should work fine. There's so little difference between the
    38 and the 42 or 44 that shifting will be unaffected.

    On the other hand, you may better off just running a single 39 or 40
    tooth chainring.

    Jeff

  9. erikv said:

    I'd like to run a 38/42 or possibly a 38/44 setup on my cyclocross bike
    (DA 9spd drivetrain).

    All the 42t chainrings I see are inner chainrings. Will they work on
    the outside? Or should I try an unramped 3/32 chainring instead?

    Thanks,
    Erik

    Ramped chainrings shift better, quicker than unramped chainrings. But
    unramped/pinned still shift fine. You can use any 42 chainring. But
    if you want ramps and pins on your outside 42 ring, they are very easy
    to find too. Almost all good road triple cranksets come with 42 middle
    rings. These all have ramps and pins to help get the chain from the
    inner ring to the middle. So just buy a replacement 42 middle
    chainring for a triple crankset and put it on the outside.

  10. tspoon said:
    erikv said:

    I'd like to run a 38/42 or possibly a 38/44 setup on my cyclocross bike
    (DA 9spd drivetrain).

    All the 42t chainrings I see are inner chainrings. Will they work on
    the outside? Or should I try an unramped 3/32 chainring instead?

    Thanks,
    Erik

    I don't know, but let me know how you get on. When I go on my yearly
    bike holiday shortly I'm thinking of running a 42 on the outside of my
    triple in a 42,39,30 combo. I'd say 42 would be plenty as I'm not really
    interested in seeing what numbers I can pull going downhill when loaded.

    You'd be turning the chainring around to put it on the outside. If the
    teeth are cut symmetrically from either way it should be OK. On my crank
    set I'm not sure that this is the case though - the leading edge is a
    slghtly different shape to the trailing edge.

  11. On 8 Jan 2006 07:12:55 -0800, "Qui si parla Campagnolo" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    erikv said:

    I'd like to run a 38/42 or possibly a 38/44 setup on my cyclocross bike
    (DA 9spd drivetrain).

    All the 42t chainrings I see are inner chainrings. Will they work on
    the outside? Or should I try an unramped 3/32 chainring instead?

    Thanks,
    Erik

    Sure, with a well adjusted front der or TA makes a 42t 'outer' with pin
    and ramps and such.

    Remember, once upon a time, on a cycle far, far away, big rings didn't
    have pickup pins or ramps...even with 'STI'

    And holy moley STI (or Ergo) will shift a ring without pins and ramps.

    Ron

  12. RonSonic said:

    On 8 Jan 2006 07:12:55 -0800, "Qui si parla Campagnolo" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    erikv said:

    I'd like to run a 38/42 or possibly a 38/44 setup on my cyclocross bike
    (DA 9spd drivetrain).

    All the 42t chainrings I see are inner chainrings. Will they work on
    the outside? Or should I try an unramped 3/32 chainring instead?

    Thanks,
    Erik

    Sure, with a well adjusted front der or TA makes a 42t 'outer' with pin
    and ramps and such.

    Remember, once upon a time, on a cycle far, far away, big rings didn't
    have pickup pins or ramps...even with 'STI'

    And holy moley STI (or Ergo) will shift a ring without pins and ramps.

    Ron

    Yep. Just not as quickly.

  13. erikv said:

    I'd like to run a 38/42 or possibly a 38/44 setup on my cyclocross bike
    (DA 9spd drivetrain).

    All the 42t chainrings I see are inner chainrings. Will they work on
    the outside? Or should I try an unramped 3/32 chainring instead?

    Both will work fine. I have two bikes set up in a similar manner,
    although they have 110 bcd chainrings. One is a 34-42 double and the
    other is a 26-36-44 triple. The double has a ramped 42t chainring, the
    triple has flat rings. The difference in chainring size is small
    enough that the ramps make no practical difference. The difference in
    your setup is even less.

    Tom

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