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  1. Having recently ridden a coker (for the first time) on the track where
    the first 4 minute mile was run by Sir Roger Bannister, it got me
    wondering, how hard would it be on a coker? 15 mph for 4 mins, or
    slightly more because you'd lose time at the start mounting and getting
    up to speed seems reasonable, i think i remember some people talking
    about cruising at 14 mph so surely this would be do-able? How much
    training would be required to get up to this kind of speed, bearing in
    mind i ride almost exclusively 24" Muni, a little 28" and have only
    ridden a coker once so far? Would attemtping this on a curved 400 metre
    running track be more difficult than doing it on a straight mile? Might
    possibly be able to con the authorities into letting me do it on the
    Iffley road track, i think it would make great unicycle publicity.

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  2. That is 24km/hr....for 4 minutes...
    Shouldn't be a problem considering that the official hour record is more
    than 21km/hr(not sure of the exact number)...but yes, its possible...It
    will be a challenge with 150mm cranks but 125mm and below would be
    fine.....if you're a decent Cokeur, of course...

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  3. a straight road track would be easier regardless. turning takes effort
    and time. on a banked 1/4 mile track it takes less than a flat track but
    still. think about it this way, run around the biggest piece of
    furnature you have in the house, now run that same distance ina straight
    line, which was faster? but a 4 min mile on a coker seems easily doable.

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  4. Definitely doable. I kept to roughly a 25km/h pace for 2hrs during my
    24hr ride. I'd say if you're looking at riding a mile, a really good
    Coker rider will be pushing a 3min mile.

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  5. what about going for a 3min mile to make it more of a challenge!

  6. (pedant) Roger ran the first SUB-four minute mile(/pedant)

    Gives you one less second to play with:p

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  7. kington99 said:

    *... which is a bit silly now isn't it?

    . *

    I know. Hence turning pedant mode off and adding a smiley 🙂

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  8. Didn't Roger Bannister et al run the mile on cinders?

    Now that -would- be a challenge!

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  9. I first rode a measured sub-4 a few years ago on a bike path. I had to
    weave thru occasional bikers and pedestrians and also had to work with
    the curvature of the road. I was riding a Coker with 110m cranks.

    A sub-3 would be amazing, but I know I couldn't do it -- too old and
    fat. Surely Ken or Christian Hoverath could pull it off riding with even
    tinier cranks, esp if the mile wasn't from a dead start but rather from
    a riding start.

    David Stone

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  10. Apologies nickjb, i get very heated when peope try to out-pedant me, the
    smiley should have been recognised by the part of my brain that handles
    light-hearted comments and treated as such, needless to say many brain
    cells will be losing their jobs over this 🙂

    totally_hooked - i think you're right, also the track was 440 yards,
    not the 400 metres that stands in it's place

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  11. David_Stone said:

    * A sub-3 would be amazing, but I know I couldn't do it -- too old and
    fat. Surely Ken or Christian Hoverath could pull it off riding with
    even tinier cranks, esp if the mile wasn't from a dead start but
    rather from a riding start.

    David Stone *

    Not me, I can't sprint for peanuts. My average speed over long
    distances stays pretty constant, but I dont' actually go much faster
    than that.

    Christian could probably do it- he apparently hit 48km/hr on a Coker.

    That or we could try it with a Schlumpf or similar geared up unicycle.

    What is the current record for the (running) mile anyway? I thought it
    was sitting just over the 3:50 mark.

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  12. Does anyone know the nature of the correlation between 28" and 36"
    speeds? I just ran a 5:35 mile on a 28" with 125s on a muddy bumpy and
    hilly road, what would me coker performance be like based on this? (and
    assuming i'd had similar levels of experience on coker and 28"😉 Also
    this was the first half of a 2 mile ride so perhaps i could get faster
    if i knew i didn't have the second half to go.

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  13. My evening rides which are 10 miles long are often done with an average
    speed of about 15mph and that is with a 150m climb as well. So if you
    do it on the flat and only do 1 mile... a 4 minute mile should be easy
    for most average to good riders. On the flat I am reasonably certain I
    can maintain 18mph for a mile without a problem and that would be 3:20 -
    but would need a warm up and rolling start. As for 3:00 that would be
    20mph and at the moment I could not do that for that long.... with some
    training and a Schlumpf Coker I may be able to.

    Roger

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  14. rogeratunicycledotcom said:

    *a Schlumpf Coker

    *

    Wow. What a thought. What a machine.
    What a nice way to get killed.

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  15. Quoted message said:

    Does anyone know the nature of the correlation between 28" and 36"
    speeds? I just ran a 5:35 mile on a 28" with 125s on a muddy bumpy and
    hilly road, what would me coker performance be like based on this?
    (and assuming i'd had similar levels of experience on coker and 28"😉

    With cranks of same length and excluding factors like weight and other
    [censored]...i.e. taking only wheel size into consideration, a 36" is 1.285
    times faster than a 28"...Your mile timing on a Coker with 125mm would
    be approximately....4:21...To be able to do a sub-4 you will have a do a
    5:08 on a 28"....

    Quoted message said:

    What is the current record for the (running) mile anyway?

    I believe that is around 3:43...

    A 24"/125mm setup should be equivalent to running speed...

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  16. I was about to say surely that's wrong, it would be impossible on a 24",
    then i realised that of course it very nearly is impossible to run that
    fast, certainly for me. 🙂 Thanks for the input everyone, sounds like
    it's well worth going for.

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