4 days/week and sleep

John Hanson said:

I started training 4 days/week about a month or so ago. What I've
discovered is that I can't seem to get enough sleep and when I do
sleep, I sleep like a rock.

For the past year or so, I've had many a fitful night of sleep where
I'd only get an hour or two of shut eye. I've also put in some
serious overtime the last 5 or 6 months also. That seems to have
changed since I started training 4 days/week. For instance, this past
week, I was in bed every night before 11:00 PM. Plus, 3 times this
week I took long naps in the afternoon (2+ hours) and would still go
to bed early.

Yesterday I got 11 hours of sleep. I did some things around the house
and went to the gym around 3:00 PM. At 7:00, I slept until 10:30 got
up for about 2 hours and went back to bed. I got up a little after
8:00 this morning.

What's weird is that I've been training very hard but I also feel like
a million bucks. I'm also very alert during the day until I get
sleepy and then I'm out like a light. I haven't been drinking much
alcohol at all either (that will change starting Thurdsay;-).

Anyone else experience anything like this?

I'm mostly experiencing deep envy. I've been up late, up early and
training hard. It's a bad, bad combination. I'm spacey and having
trouble concentrating and my eyes are bloodshot and, uh, what was I just
saying? I keep losing my train of thought.

Get your sleep. Sleep is good. Mmmmm.... sleep.

Delenn, off to do her next chore

On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 10:23:28 -0500, Delenn <[email hidden]> wrote
in misc.fitness.weights:

Quoted message said:

John Hanson said:

I started training 4 days/week about a month or so ago. What I've
discovered is that I can't seem to get enough sleep and when I do
sleep, I sleep like a rock.

For the past year or so, I've had many a fitful night of sleep where
I'd only get an hour or two of shut eye. I've also put in some
serious overtime the last 5 or 6 months also. That seems to have
changed since I started training 4 days/week. For instance, this past
week, I was in bed every night before 11:00 PM. Plus, 3 times this
week I took long naps in the afternoon (2+ hours) and would still go
to bed early.

Yesterday I got 11 hours of sleep. I did some things around the house
and went to the gym around 3:00 PM. At 7:00, I slept until 10:30 got
up for about 2 hours and went back to bed. I got up a little after
8:00 this morning.

What's weird is that I've been training very hard but I also feel like
a million bucks. I'm also very alert during the day until I get
sleepy and then I'm out like a light. I haven't been drinking much
alcohol at all either (that will change starting Thurdsay;-).

Anyone else experience anything like this?

I'm mostly experiencing deep envy. I've been up late, up early and
training hard. It's a bad, bad combination. I'm spacey and having
trouble concentrating and my eyes are bloodshot and, uh, what was I just
saying? I keep losing my train of thought.

Get your sleep. Sleep is good. Mmmmm.... sleep.

Delenn, off to do her next chore

I'm off to the Ravine Park.

In article <[email hidden]>,
Delenn <[email hidden]> writes:
[snip]

Quoted message said:

I'm mostly experiencing deep envy. I've been up late, up early and
training hard. It's a bad, bad combination. I'm spacey and having
trouble concentrating and my eyes are bloodshot and, uh, what was I just
saying? I keep losing my train of thought.

Inadequate sleep will have that effect. I *never* used to have
trouble either falling asleep nor staying asleep. I have experienced
increasing difficulty with those, though, in recent years. Something
I studied years and years ago, and lost my talent for, is coming to
the rescue, tho: Self-hypnosis. The first stage of self-hypnosis is
relaxation. To thoroughly relax in this stage, you need to focus on
relaxation techniques. I've discovered, in working to regain my
facility with this, that my problem in getting to sleep would appear
to be not being able to get my mind to stop crunching. Concentrating
on relaxation techniques (getting my mind to stop wandering back into
"crunch" mode has been the challenge here) seems to be doing the
trick. Sooner-or-later, simply turning my mind off when I hit the
sack will become automatic. I'm waking up in the middle of the night
less often, now, as well.

Digressing a bit...

Unfortunately, self-hypnosis lessons from a qualified professional (a
degreed clinical psychologist, in my case) is kinda spendy. I was
young, single, not a home-owner, had no responsibilities (other than
to breath, basically) at the time, so I had money to burn. It is a
handy talent, once you become adept at it. Beside the relaxation and
mental focus you can gain from it, you can completely obviate the
need for pain-killers, in some situations, for example. Why I ever
let myself get out of practice... *sigh*

Quoted message said:

Get your sleep. Sleep is good. Mmmmm.... sleep.

🙂

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On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 18:32:12 GMT, Usenet Posting
<[email hidden]> wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

Quoted message said:

John Hanson said:

I started training 4 days/week about a month or so ago. What I've
discovered is that I can't seem to get enough sleep and when I do
sleep, I sleep like a rock.

For the past year or so, I've had many a fitful night of sleep where
I'd only get an hour or two of shut eye. I've also put in some
serious overtime the last 5 or 6 months also. That seems to have
changed since I started training 4 days/week. For instance, this past
week, I was in bed every night before 11:00 PM. Plus, 3 times this
week I took long naps in the afternoon (2+ hours) and would still go
to bed early.

Yesterday I got 11 hours of sleep. I did some things around the house
and went to the gym around 3:00 PM. At 7:00, I slept until 10:30 got
up for about 2 hours and went back to bed. I got up a little after
8:00 this morning.

What's weird is that I've been training very hard but I also feel like
a million bucks. I'm also very alert during the day until I get
sleepy and then I'm out like a light. I haven't been drinking much
alcohol at all either (that will change starting Thurdsay;-).

Anyone else experience anything like this?

Sounds like a manic phase, please check with Lyle.

Could be. I am pretty psyched about my trip to Florida this week.
BTW, I just got back from a 2+ mile walk and feel like a nap.

On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 14:36:44 -0600, geek_girl
<[email hidden]> wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

Quoted message said:

John Hanson said:

Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 09:19:36 -0600
From: John Hanson <[email hidden]>
Newsgroups: misc.fitness.weights
Subject: 4 days/week and sleep

I started training 4 days/week about a month or so ago. What I've
discovered is that I can't seem to get enough sleep and when I do
sleep, I sleep like a rock.

For the past year or so, I've had many a fitful night of sleep where
I'd only get an hour or two of shut eye. I've also put in some
serious overtime the last 5 or 6 months also. That seems to have
changed since I started training 4 days/week. For instance, this past
week, I was in bed every night before 11:00 PM. Plus, 3 times this
week I took long naps in the afternoon (2+ hours) and would still go
to bed early.

Yesterday I got 11 hours of sleep. I did some things around the house
and went to the gym around 3:00 PM. At 7:00, I slept until 10:30 got
up for about 2 hours and went back to bed. I got up a little after
8:00 this morning.

What's weird is that I've been training very hard but I also feel like
a million bucks. I'm also very alert during the day until I get
sleepy and then I'm out like a light. I haven't been drinking much
alcohol at all either (that will change starting Thurdsay;-).

Anyone else experience anything like this?

Yes. I generally have a hard time getting to sleep, don't sleep well, and
have a hard time getting up at a reasonable time in the morning. I started
doing a Sheiko "beginner" routine, and I was working out twice a day on
MWF. The first day I had some trouble dragging my ass out of bed at 6:30
to get the a.m. workout in before work. But by the end of the first week,
I was getting up as soon as the alarm went off, ready to work out, and
then feeling *very* energetic after my workout. I sort of wondered if my
coworkers thought I had gotten some happy pills.

By the middle of the second week, I was still getting up easily, and also
starting to get sleepy around 9 p.m., and crashing completely by 10
(instead of 1 a.m. or later). On weekends I've been waking up at 6:30 or
7, realizing I can go back to sleep, and then doing so until 11 or even
noon. So my weekday hours have been shifted back to something more
appropriate for my 9 to 5ish job, I feel more alert and energetic during
my waking hours, and the quality of my sleep is much better, although I do
need quite a bit of it.

So, it must be the extra work. Maybe I'll stick with it as it seems
my strength/training are going well (except for that minor biceps
tear).

DZ said:

Date: 27 Mar 2005 22:38:51 GMT
From: DZ <[email hidden]>
Newsgroups: misc.fitness.weights
Subject: Re: 4 days/week and sleep

geek_girl said:

John Hanson said:

I started training 4 days/week about a month or so ago. [...]
What's weird is that I've been training very hard but I also feel like
a million bucks. I'm also very alert during the day until I get
sleepy and then I'm out like a light.

Yes. I generally have a hard time getting to sleep, don't sleep well, and
have a hard time getting up at a reasonable time in the morning. I started
doing a Sheiko "beginner" routine, and I was working out twice a day on
MWF. The first day I had some trouble dragging my ass out of bed at 6:30
to get the a.m. workout in before work. But by the end of the first week,
I was getting up as soon as the alarm went off, ready to work out, and
then feeling *very* energetic after my workout. I sort of wondered if my
coworkers thought I had gotten some happy pills.

No, it's not that: it's spring and you people are in heat.

Spring? Not here. We don't really have seasons in Austin. But we did have
a really cool hail storm the other night.

On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 18:23:51 -0600, geek_girl
<[email hidden]> wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

Quoted message said:

DZ said:

Date: 27 Mar 2005 22:38:51 GMT
From: DZ <[email hidden]>
Newsgroups: misc.fitness.weights
Subject: Re: 4 days/week and sleep

geek_girl said:

On Sun, 27 Mar 2005, John Hanson wrote:
> I started training 4 days/week about a month or so ago. [...]
> What's weird is that I've been training very hard but I also feel like
> a million bucks. I'm also very alert during the day until I get
> sleepy and then I'm out like a light.

Yes. I generally have a hard time getting to sleep, don't sleep well, and
have a hard time getting up at a reasonable time in the morning. I started
doing a Sheiko "beginner" routine, and I was working out twice a day on
MWF. The first day I had some trouble dragging my ass out of bed at 6:30
to get the a.m. workout in before work. But by the end of the first week,
I was getting up as soon as the alarm went off, ready to work out, and
then feeling *very* energetic after my workout. I sort of wondered if my
coworkers thought I had gotten some happy pills.

No, it's not that: it's spring and you people are in heat.

Spring? Not here. We don't really have seasons in Austin. But we did have
a really cool hail storm the other night.

We hit 60 today and it's been sunny all week.

Runs With Knives said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
Delenn <[email hidden]> writes:
[snip]

Quoted message said:

I'm mostly experiencing deep envy. I've been up late, up early and
training hard. It's a bad, bad combination. I'm spacey and having
trouble concentrating and my eyes are bloodshot and, uh, what was I just
saying? I keep losing my train of thought.

Inadequate sleep will have that effect. I *never* used to have
trouble either falling asleep nor staying asleep. I have experienced
increasing difficulty with those, though, in recent years. Something
I studied years and years ago, and lost my talent for, is coming to
the rescue, tho: Self-hypnosis. The first stage of self-hypnosis is
relaxation.

Thanks for the suggestion, but that isn't my problem, it's finding time
to sleep. (Yeah, yeah, I'm about to get offline, just checking email
before heading to bed.)

Yesterday I raced away from my desk to get to lap swim half an hour
before the pool closed. I swam hard, trying to get some intensity out
of a brief workout. I stopped to breath at the wall and decided to
float while catching my breath just to practice balancing in the water.

Next thing I knew I had drifted across lanes and ran into someone and I
realized that I was floating on my back with my eyes closed and I was
asleep!

Falling asleep isn't my problem. Staying awake when appropriate is my
problem.

Good news is, I got enough of an adrenaline rush from the realization of
how close I came to drowning that I was able to get in a few more good
intervals. More good news is that my balancing in the water is pretty
good. Bad news is that the life guard didn't notice.

Delenn, off to sleep, perchance to dream of something other than tax returns

Delenn said:

Runs With Knives said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
Delenn <[email hidden]> writes:
[snip]

Quoted message said:

I'm mostly experiencing deep envy. I've been up late, up early and
training hard. It's a bad, bad combination. I'm spacey and having
trouble concentrating and my eyes are bloodshot and, uh, what was I
just saying? I keep losing my train of thought.

Inadequate sleep will have that effect. I *never* used to have
trouble either falling asleep nor staying asleep. I have experienced
increasing difficulty with those, though, in recent years. Something
I studied years and years ago, and lost my talent for, is coming to
the rescue, tho: Self-hypnosis. The first stage of self-hypnosis is
relaxation.

Thanks for the suggestion, but that isn't my problem, it's finding time
to sleep. (Yeah, yeah, I'm about to get offline, just checking email
before heading to bed.)

Yesterday I raced away from my desk to get to lap swim half an hour
before the pool closed. I swam hard, trying to get some intensity out
of a brief workout. I stopped to breath at the wall and decided to
float while catching my breath just to practice balancing in the water.

Next thing I knew I had drifted across lanes and ran into someone and I
realized that I was floating on my back with my eyes closed and I was
asleep!

Falling asleep isn't my problem. Staying awake when appropriate is my
problem.

Good news is, I got enough of an adrenaline rush from the realization of
how close I came to drowning that I was able to get in a few more good
intervals. More good news is that my balancing in the water is pretty
good. Bad news is that the life guard didn't notice.

Delenn, off to sleep, perchance to dream of something other than tax
returns

You came close to drowning? Man, it must have been a deep sleep or you
drifted into a shipping lane.

Cheers

--
Bob Volkmer
rev@IRC

John Hanson said:

I started training 4 days/week about a month or so ago. What I've
discovered is that I can't seem to get enough sleep and when I do
sleep, I sleep like a rock.

For the past year or so, I've had many a fitful night of sleep where
I'd only get an hour or two of shut eye. I've also put in some
serious overtime the last 5 or 6 months also. That seems to have
changed since I started training 4 days/week. For instance, this past
week, I was in bed every night before 11:00 PM. Plus, 3 times this
week I took long naps in the afternoon (2+ hours) and would still go
to bed early.

Yesterday I got 11 hours of sleep. I did some things around the house
and went to the gym around 3:00 PM. At 7:00, I slept until 10:30 got
up for about 2 hours and went back to bed. I got up a little after
8:00 this morning.

What's weird is that I've been training very hard but I also feel like
a million bucks. I'm also very alert during the day until I get
sleepy and then I'm out like a light. I haven't been drinking much
alcohol at all either (that will change starting Thurdsay;-).

Anyone else experience anything like this?

You didn't mention how many days per week you were working out prior to your
change.

I work out 5 to 6 per week. With that, I need 8 to 9 hours per night, and
more on the weekends. If I cut back to working out 3 days per week, I can
get by with 7 hrs per night. And like you, I sleep like a rock. I'm
usually sleeping within 60 seconds of hitting the pillow and remain asleep
until morning.
--
-Larry

On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 23:21:30 -0800, "Larry Hodges"
<[email hidden]> wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

Quoted message said:

John Hanson said:

I started training 4 days/week about a month or so ago. What I've
discovered is that I can't seem to get enough sleep and when I do
sleep, I sleep like a rock.

For the past year or so, I've had many a fitful night of sleep where
I'd only get an hour or two of shut eye. I've also put in some
serious overtime the last 5 or 6 months also. That seems to have
changed since I started training 4 days/week. For instance, this past
week, I was in bed every night before 11:00 PM. Plus, 3 times this
week I took long naps in the afternoon (2+ hours) and would still go
to bed early.

Yesterday I got 11 hours of sleep. I did some things around the house
and went to the gym around 3:00 PM. At 7:00, I slept until 10:30 got
up for about 2 hours and went back to bed. I got up a little after
8:00 this morning.

What's weird is that I've been training very hard but I also feel like
a million bucks. I'm also very alert during the day until I get
sleepy and then I'm out like a light. I haven't been drinking much
alcohol at all either (that will change starting Thurdsay;-).

Anyone else experience anything like this?

You didn't mention how many days per week you were working out prior to your
change.

I've only mentioned that about a dozen times in previous posts. Are
you saying you don't keep track of everything I say?
;-)

Quoted message said:

I work out 5 to 6 per week. With that, I need 8 to 9 hours per night, and
more on the weekends. If I cut back to working out 3 days per week, I can
get by with 7 hrs per night. And like you, I sleep like a rock. I'm
usually sleeping within 60 seconds of hitting the pillow and remain asleep
until morning.

I was training 3 days/week: M-bench, W-squat/light deadlift, F-light
bench, M-Squat, W-bench and F-deadlift.

rev said:

Delenn said:

Yesterday I raced away from my desk to get to lap swim half an hour
before the pool closed. I swam hard, trying to get some intensity out
of a brief workout. I stopped to breath at the wall and decided to
float while catching my breath just to practice balancing in the water.

Next thing I knew I had drifted across lanes and ran into someone and
I realized that I was floating on my back with my eyes closed and I
was asleep!

Falling asleep isn't my problem. Staying awake when appropriate is my
problem.

Good news is, I got enough of an adrenaline rush from the realization
of how close I came to drowning that I was able to get in a few more
good intervals. More good news is that my balancing in the water is
pretty good. Bad news is that the life guard didn't notice.

You came close to drowning? Man, it must have been a deep sleep or you
drifted into a shipping lane.

Curious: you think it's not a risky thing to fall asleep while swimming?

Delenn

John Hanson said:

On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 23:21:30 -0800, "Larry Hodges"
<[email hidden]> wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

Quoted message said:

John Hanson said:

I started training 4 days/week about a month or so ago. What I've
discovered is that I can't seem to get enough sleep and when I do
sleep, I sleep like a rock.

For the past year or so, I've had many a fitful night of sleep where
I'd only get an hour or two of shut eye. I've also put in some
serious overtime the last 5 or 6 months also. That seems to have
changed since I started training 4 days/week. For instance, this
past week, I was in bed every night before 11:00 PM. Plus, 3 times
this week I took long naps in the afternoon (2+ hours) and would
still go to bed early.

Yesterday I got 11 hours of sleep. I did some things around the
house and went to the gym around 3:00 PM. At 7:00, I slept until
10:30 got up for about 2 hours and went back to bed. I got up a
little after 8:00 this morning.

What's weird is that I've been training very hard but I also feel
like a million bucks. I'm also very alert during the day until I
get sleepy and then I'm out like a light. I haven't been drinking
much alcohol at all either (that will change starting Thurdsay;-).

Anyone else experience anything like this?

You didn't mention how many days per week you were working out prior
to your change.

I've only mentioned that about a dozen times in previous posts. Are
you saying you don't keep track of everything I say?
;-)

What?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I work out 5 to 6 per week. With that, I need 8 to 9 hours per
night, and more on the weekends. If I cut back to working out 3
days per week, I can get by with 7 hrs per night. And like you, I
sleep like a rock. I'm usually sleeping within 60 seconds of
hitting the pillow and remain asleep until morning.

I was training 3 days/week: M-bench, W-squat/light deadlift, F-light
bench, M-Squat, W-bench and F-deadlift.

Hah. Three days per week is for girls and liberals. It's about time you
came up to speed.
--
-Larry

"John Hanson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I started training 4 days/week about a month or so ago. What I've
discovered is that I can't seem to get enough sleep and when I do
sleep, I sleep like a rock.
[snip]
What's weird is that I've been training very hard but I also feel like
a million bucks. I'm also very alert during the day until I get
sleepy and then I'm out like a light. I haven't been drinking much
alcohol at all either (that will change starting Thurdsay;-).

Anyone else experience anything like this?

Since you feel like a million bucks, AND you've only been on the new
schedule for a month, I hesitate to mention that sleepiness can be a sign of
overtraining. I would say rather you're just still adapting to the new
schedule and making up some of the sleep debt you owed from the previous
months.

Make sure you are eating adequately, too. Sometimes I can be quite sleepy
and have a big glass of water or a snack and I'm ready to go again. Are you
getting enough calories?

What's happening on Thursday?

Selene

--
There's nothing scarier than a soybean wielding a chainsaw. -- Lucas Buck

--
There's nothing scarier than a soybean wielding a chainsaw. -- Lucas Buck

On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 08:41:52 -0800, "Selene"
<[email hidden]> wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

Quoted message said:

"John Hanson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I started training 4 days/week about a month or so ago. What I've
discovered is that I can't seem to get enough sleep and when I do
sleep, I sleep like a rock.
[snip]
What's weird is that I've been training very hard but I also feel like
a million bucks. I'm also very alert during the day until I get
sleepy and then I'm out like a light. I haven't been drinking much
alcohol at all either (that will change starting Thurdsay;-).

Anyone else experience anything like this?

Since you feel like a million bucks, AND you've only been on the new
schedule for a month, I hesitate to mention that sleepiness can be a sign of
overtraining. I would say rather you're just still adapting to the new
schedule and making up some of the sleep debt you owed from the previous
months.

I think you're right. My new schedule is kicking my ass. I'm
training for Masters Nationals so I'm going heavier every week. Plus,
I'm doing 5 sets of 5 which is also more work than I've done
previously. I've probably doubled the amount of work I'm doing.

Quoted message said:

Make sure you are eating adequately, too. Sometimes I can be quite sleepy
and have a big glass of water or a snack and I'm ready to go again. Are you
getting enough calories?

Probably not. I'm losing weight at the moment...by design.

Quoted message said:

What's happening on Thursday?

I'll be in Florida...Titusville, Melbourne and Key West. Come on
down. It's going to be [censored]'. We are taking a boat down to the
Keys and are bringing these wake board kinda things. We'll be riding
on them with our snorkel gear, tipping the front end down and skimming
along the bottom of the ocean.

On 2005-03-28, Selene penned:

Quoted message said:

Since you feel like a million bucks, AND you've only been on the new
schedule for a month, I hesitate to mention that sleepiness can be a sign of
overtraining. I would say rather you're just still adapting to the new
schedule and making up some of the sleep debt you owed from the previous
months.

Okay, I guess I really do have to delurk to ask this ...

Is *sleepiness* a sign of overtraining, or is *poor sleep* a sign of
overtraining?

Last summer, I attempted to lose body fat via a low-fat diet (yup, I
know, that was a mistake) at the same time as I launched an aggressive
mountain biking schedule. I rode hard 5-6 days a week. I'm normally
very cold at night, but soon I was absolutely burning up; I couldn't
sleep, I was so hot. At the time, I thought this was just proof that my
metabolism was ramping up, but along with other problems that cropped up, I
now think I was just overtraining (and underfeeding).

--
monique

In article <[email hidden]>,

Monique Y. Mudama said:

On 2005-03-28, Selene penned:

Quoted message said:

Since you feel like a million bucks, AND you've only been on the new
schedule for a month, I hesitate to mention that sleepiness can be a sign of
overtraining. I would say rather you're just still adapting to the new
schedule and making up some of the sleep debt you owed from the previous
months.

Okay, I guess I really do have to delurk to ask this ...

Is *sleepiness* a sign of overtraining, or is *poor sleep* a sign of
overtraining?

Last summer, I attempted to lose body fat via a low-fat diet (yup, I
know, that was a mistake) at the same time as I launched an aggressive
mountain biking schedule. I rode hard 5-6 days a week. I'm normally
very cold at night, but soon I was absolutely burning up; I couldn't
sleep, I was so hot. At the time, I thought this was just proof that my
metabolism was ramping up, but along with other problems that cropped up, I
now think I was just overtraining (and underfeeding).

Not enough sleep is a sign of overtraining or poor quality of sleep.

The average olympic calibre athlete sleeps between 9 and 11 hours per
day (this includes naps.)

--
Keith

Larry Hodges said:

Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 08:20:15 -0800
From: Larry Hodges <[email hidden]>
Newsgroups: misc.fitness.weights
Subject: Re: 4 days/week and sleep

John Hanson said:

On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 23:21:30 -0800, "Larry Hodges"
<[email hidden]> wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

I was training 3 days/week: M-bench, W-squat/light deadlift, F-light
bench, M-Squat, W-bench and F-deadlift.

Hah. Three days per week is for girls and liberals.

What about three days per week, twice a day? Who's that for?

"John Hanson" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

"Selene" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

Make sure you are eating adequately, too. Sometimes I can be quite

sleepy

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

and have a big glass of water or a snack and I'm ready to go again. Are

you

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

getting enough calories?

Probably not. I'm losing weight at the moment...by design.

Oh. Well, there's not much I can say to that except...take a lot of naps.
You know the mantra about building and shedding at the same time.

Just tell everyone you're an olympic calibre athlete. [$1 to Keith]

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

What's happening on Thursday?

I'll be in Florida...Titusville, Melbourne and Key West. Come on
down. It's going to be [censored]'.

Oh yes, I remember you mentioning this. Kind of a long hitchhike for me.

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We are taking a boat down to the
Keys and are bringing these wake board kinda things. We'll be riding
on them with our snorkel gear, tipping the front end down and skimming
along the bottom of the ocean.

And you're going to mix excessive drinking in with this?

S.