36er tyres - which is best?

I vote for the ta radial for street riding, it has a smooth roll to it
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The original Coker tyre was worn down after 1500 km. I now have used a
TA Wheel tyre for about 750 km and it is as good as new. The TA Wheel
(=Qu-ax) tyre has more rubber to wear down, so it lasts longer.
I use it mostly on tarmac and dirt roads and I feel no difference in
riding behavior.

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mark williamson said:

And a secondary question: any positive / negative experiences going
tubeless with either tyre?

Heh, heh you should ask Gizmoduck about this! Do a search on it. I have
a tubeless Coker and it seems fine. Another option is to replace the
standard (overly heavy) inner tube with a 29" inner tube. The first
time I tried this it worked perfectly but since then others (myself
included) have had trouble with 29" inners getting pinch-flats during
installation. After my bike shop had pinch-flatted three 29" inners
they did the tubeless conversion and all was well.

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The Coker tyre is apparently lighter than the Quax tyre. I don't know
how they managed to make it heavier 🙄

I like the Coker for off-road but I've had no experience with the Quax
tyre.

The new Coker tyres seem to wear down a lot quicker. I think I wore
through half a tyre last year after just one days riding. After about
1000km most of the knobs are gone, and 1500km you'll start seeing the
casing.

The tubeless kit is great- rides really well especially off-road- it's
lighter and and more supple. The trouble is getting the tubeless kit
on- it needs a bit of effort.

Ken

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TonyMelton said:

Heh, heh you should ask Gizmoduck about this! Do a search on it. I have
a tubeless Coker and it seems fine. Another option is to replace the
standard (overly heavy) inner tube with a 29" inner tube. The first
time I tried this it worked perfectly but since then others (myself
included) have had trouble with 29" inners getting pinch-flats during
installation. After my bike shop had pinch-flatted three 29" inners
they did the tubeless conversion and all was well.

Have you gone tubeless as well Tony?

My bike mechanic got frustrated having to do the conversion for the
third time and stuck half the bottle of Stans into the tyre 😄 Now it's
probably as heavy as a non-tubeless tyre. It rides nicer though.

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Quoted message said:

Heh, heh you should ask Gizmoduck about this! Do a search on it.

Yes, I'd tracked down all the old threads about the first tubeless
conversions - sounded really interesting. But I couldn't find anybody
who'd run tubeless on the Wheel TA - I guess it's a niche of a niche,
which happens to actually be empty in this case! :-)

Thanks for your help.

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Quoted message said:

I use it mostly on tarmac and dirt roads and I feel no difference in
riding behavior.

Sounds good.

Have you tried the stock coker for a point of comparison?

My searching mostly suggests that although the Coker tyre is a little
lighter, the Wheel TA is a much smoother ride. I was originally
leaning towards buying the Coker for the knobby tread pattern, but if
the Wheel TA is significantly nicer to ride then I think that'll be the
way to go.

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coker tyre i fine more practical, it's ok on road and on gravel / off
road. and 200mile lifespan difference on the 2 tyres i pref the coker
one.

coker 800miles/1300km
radial 1000miles/1600km

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zippy said:

coker tyre i fine more practical, it's ok on road and on gravel / off
road. and 200mile lifespan difference on the 2 tyres i pref the coker
one.

coker 800miles/1300km
radial 1000miles/1600km

I think the difference in mileage is going to be ALOT more than 200
miles, look at the 12th post at this link
http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44553

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GizmoDuck said:

The Coker tyre is apparently lighter than the Quax tyre. I don't know
how they managed to make it heavier 🙄

I like the Coker for off-road but I've had no experience with the Quax
tyre.

The new Coker tyres seem to wear down a lot quicker. I think I wore
through half a tyre last year after just one days riding. After about
1000km most of the knobs are gone, and 1500km you'll start seeing the
casing.

The tubeless kit is great- rides really well especially off-road- it's
lighter and and more supple. The trouble is getting the tubeless kit
on- it needs a bit of effort.

Ken

Whats tubeless???

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I think the differences between the two tires are subtle at best.

Tha being said, I prefer the Wheel TA for its road handling. Going
straight, I don't think there's much difference, but the Whel TA has
noticably easier turning.

The coker tire might be better off-road, but I've used the Wheel TA
off-road also, and I can't say it was dramatically different. (the
coker tire isn't THAT knobby anyways).

So, to recap.

Wheel TA better for road, but still fine offroad
Coker better for offroad, but still fine for road.

The Wheel TA is supposedly heavier, but I didn't notice.

I can't imagine that going tubeless would be any different between the
two.

My advice? Flip a coin. (If it lands on its edge, get the Wheel TA)

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what is tubeless?

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Tubeless is simply that: a conversion to allow you to run the tyre
without an inner tube. The Stan's kit supports sizes up to 36" wheels,
and includes sealant to "heal" any punctures that occur in the tyre
itself.

It saves weight, adds self-healing (though you can do that by having a
self-sealing tube

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I don't know if you noticed my thread a while back but the coker brand
tire was in very limited quantities at that time. The only place I
could find one was through Bedford @ $30 more than the TA due to price
and the shiping from Canada. Might be the determining factor for you.

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D'oh! Just noticed your on the other side of the pond there Mark so
scratch that last post.

But while I'm trying to save face, does Stans make a 36" rim strip for
this application or do they strech a 29er to fit???? I'm in the
process of building a coker and have the 29" strips and Stans gooo
which I was going to sell but should I try and use them on a airfoil
rim with a TA tire?

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Thanks for the heads up about tyre availability - but as you've noticed,
I'm in the UK ;-) I think UDC UK have both tyres in stock at the
moment.

Stan told me to fill in the order and ask for the 36in rim strip in the
notes section of the order form - so it sounds like it's a different
strip.

Stretching a 29er strip might work though I guess ... not sure as I've
never done a tubeless conversion! I've also seen a suggestion that you
could make a rim strip by cutting up the coker 'tube but I'm not sure
anyone has tried that.

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knobbytracks said:

D'oh! Just noticed your on the other side of the pond there Mark so
scratch that last post.

But while I'm trying to save face, does Stans make a 36" rim strip for
this application or do they strech a 29er to fit???? I'm in the
process of building a coker and have the 29" strips and Stans gooo
which I was going to sell but should I try and use them on a airfoil
rim with a TA tire?

Stan is great to deal with- he answered the emails personally, amd made
a custom 36" rim strip for my Coker. Judging by the number of people
who have now done the conversion, he's probably got those measurements
already.

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Good news! I got a flat on my Coker today during a ride. It also
happens to be the first time that I have ever gotten a flat during a
unicycle ride. Woot! It looks like the flat was due to a blackberry
thorn, but I can't say for sure because whatever caused the puncture
didn't stay in the tire.

Anyways, this gives me the perfect opportunity and perfect excuse to
put on the TA tire that I have. My Coker tire still has plenty of
rubber on it left, but I'm going to put it in storage as a spare and
use the TA. I'll give the TA a test ride tomorrow.

I hope I don't end up experiencing a similar excuse to go tubeless.

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