36" Tire BLOWOUT while riding.

Chris.James said:

which tire do you have? the TA i hope? the coker will blow off the rim
way too easily.

TA road tire. (UDC says: Coker tire will not fit on the current Airfoil
rims in stock)

--
thayr
------------------------------------------------------------------------
thayr's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/8957
View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/57957

Bedford unicycles sells 36" tubes for $35CAD, or $30USD. I'm sure if you
order 3, he will sell the third half price. Ask for small packaging
shipping: it is a fraction of normal postage.

--
Danni

leo said:

Without cocks you wouldn't even have a family forum.

'*Ha Ha haaaaa*' (

)'!'
(http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54347)
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Danni's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/12990
View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/57957

peole say 29" tubes fit, try it ....

--
brendan
------------------------------------------------------------------------
brendan's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/13680
View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/57957

Looks like Coker still sells the tubes for $15.50.

http://tinyurl.com/2lvjbs

--
Danny Allen
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Danny Allen's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/14359
View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/57957

Ah, Danny Allen beat me to it.
http://tinyurl.com/2avk9x

--
Spencer Hochberg

'BC wheel movie.'
(http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56195) Watch
it.
'Bedford Unicycles' (http://BedfordUnicycles.ca)
AIM: SpencerHochberg
Email: Litldude2 (at) aol (dot) com

Cody keeps messing with my sig line...
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Spencer Hochberg's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/12659
View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/57957

Ouch! Looks like people are going to have to be careful with the
Airfoil X and the TA tire combo. Was the tire damaged at all in the
blowout? Any idea what pressure was in the tire?

I don't know why the Coker tubes are $38 now at UDC. 'Coker Tire'
(http://tinyurl.com/2sknr4) has the 36" tube in their catalog for
$15.50. They were out of stock at one time, I'd call or write to find
out if they have stock before ordering.

The other option is the 29er tube. 'LiveWire Unicycles'
(http://tinyurl.com/cpdjd) has a guide on how to install a 29er tube.
The Schwalbe AV-19 tube will work. You can order the tubes directly
from the 'Schwalbe web site'
(http://schwalbetires.com/bike_tires/tubes). Last time I ordered they
had a minimum order of $15 so you would need to order three or more
tubes. Or you can have your LBS order the tubes.

You're going to want at least three of the 29er tubes anyways so you'll
have a spare. You'll probably pop one trying to get it installed.
After that you'll get the hang of it. You can't really patch a 29er
tube because the patched area of the tube won't stretch. So once a
tube gets a pinch or other puncture you end up throwing the tube away
(or patching it and using it on a real 29er instead of the Coker).

The 29er tube works but is more fussy and less reliable than the thick
Coker tube. I used 29er tubes for a while. Then I got a puncture flat
due to a thorn and went through three 29er tubes installing a new tube.
I ran out of 29er tubes and went back to the old reliable Coker tube.

--
john_childs

john_childs (att) hotmail (dott) com
Team Never Wash Your Muni
Gallery: http://gallery.unicyclist.com/john_childs
'Unicycling Bookmark List' (http://backcountry.unicyclist.com/) ::
'World Clock' (http://tinyurl.com/a99y3)
------------------------------------------------------------------------
john_childs's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/449
View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/57957

UDC told me that the TA tire will usually blow off the new airfoils if
you go above 45psi.

--
boo radley

"no really, are you sure you love me more than your unicycle?" -my gf

"Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana." - Groucho Marx
------------------------------------------------------------------------
boo radley's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/10484
View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/57957

just make sure that the bead is always seated evenly and i shouldnt blow
out.

--
GhettoSmurf

willowglenbicycles.comindex.cfmOpen ↗[/URL]
------------------------------------------------------------------------
GhettoSmurf's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/11929
View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/57957

boo radley said:

UDC told me that the TA tire will usually blow off the new airfoils if
you go above 45psi.

I was riding it a little low, probably somewhere between 25-30. I held
the hose on not but two seconds or so, it must have shot it up to
45-50psi. Then about a minute later I was kissing concrete...

I'm glad it happened on the bikepath and not on the side of the road,
could have been worse. There's no damage to the tire itself, just the
tube. Also some scratches on the back of the T7 handle which seems to
have taken the brunt of the fall. I came completely off and didn't have
a chance to catch the uni.

--
thayr
------------------------------------------------------------------------
thayr's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/8957
View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/57957

This hasn't happened to me yet, and I run up to 50psi (he says, knocking
on Ti).

I also hope it doesn't happen to Tom B., because that would further
validate his slouching-toward-incompetence theory.

EDIT: I happen to have several airfoils purchased from a couple years
ago to a couple months ago, and it is absolutely true that they differ
in overall diameters as well as bead seat diameters. The newer ones
being slightly smaller.

--
unisk8r
------------------------------------------------------------------------
unisk8r's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/4660
View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/57957

unisk8r said:

I also hope it doesn't happen to Tom B., because that would further
validate his slouching-toward-incompetence theory.

As if it really NEEDS any further validation. 🙄 Sad but true
their track record is well documented. They're way past slouching
TOWARD incompetence. They've arrived, and now they're just slouching.

--
tomblackwood

Tailgate at your own risk...
------------------------------------------------------------------------
tomblackwood's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/3762
View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/57957

Is it possible to have some sort of run-flats or re-inforced 36"
tyres/tubes. So it doesn't happen again.??

--
Hazmat

1 weird and unusual greek cypriot australian 😄
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hazmat's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/13828
View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/57957

Bah, does anyone know if theres going to be a new batch of larger
airfoils in the semi-near future, say, before July? This really makes
me reluctant to get an airfoil 36er for this spring.

--
Brian O.

'ProjectUNI' (http://www.otherworldsociety.org/projectuni) - The
Unicyclist PC Game - In Early Development.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Brian O.'s Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/10744
View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/57957

Brian O. said:

Bah, does anyone know if theres going to be a new batch of larger
airfoils in the semi-near future, say, before July? This really makes
me reluctant to get an airfoil 36er for this spring.

You're suggesting the rim is at fault, it might be but thayr was
running it with a high pressure, suggested tire pressure is 32PSI even
though no one actually pays attention to what the tire says and goes
for 35-40PSI, I havn't had a flat or anyhing on my coker, I wouldn't
suggest using a 29" tube, I have no experience with them myself but I
can't see them being much good.

--
DustinSchaap

FOUNDER OF EENWIEL.NL (\"HTTP://WWW.EENWIEL.NL\"😉
*Sponsored by 'MUNICYCLE.COM' (http://www.municycle.com) , 'QU-AX'
(http://www.qu-ax.com) and 'SEMCYCLE' (http://www.semcycle.com)*
------------------------------------------------------------------------
DustinSchaap's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/12614
View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/57957

DustinSchaap said:

You're suggesting the rim is at fault, it might be but thayr was running
it with a high pressure, suggested tire pressure is 32PSI even though
no one actually pays attention to what the tire says and goes for
35-40PSI, I havn't had a flat or anyhing on my coker, I wouldn't
suggest using a 29" tube, I have no experience with them myself but I
can't see them being much good.

This coming from you Dustin??
First, the recommended max. pressure on tires doesn't mean much, in
light of rims, usage, and other factors. Lotsa folks run higher than
32 with no ill effects, and all the benefits of lower rolling
resistance. Where the practical upper pressure limit is, however,
remains to be seen.
Second, while JC may not have had a good experience with 700c tubes, I
have. Not once have I had a problem with them. No flats, no leaks, no
blowouts. And I find the lower weight tube helps reduce the overall
rolling mass esp. at the outside of the wheel. There is "much good" to
them, and you should try one for yourself sometime. But like any other
piece of equipment, there are good brands and not-so-good ones.

The existing 36" wheel equipment still leaves alot to be desired.
Pete

--
unisk8r
------------------------------------------------------------------------
unisk8r's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/4660
View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/57957

DustinSchaap said:

You're suggesting the rim is at fault, it might be but thayr was running
it with a high pressure, suggested tire pressure is 32PSI even though
no one actually pays attention to what the tire says and goes for
35-40PSI

Yeah, but not allowing high pressures is a real problem. Running the
coker at 50psi makes it a really nice smooth ride. I hate running it
lower. We all know it says 32PSI on the tyre, but we also all know we
ignore that and it works fine on normal rims.

Brian - if you're not sure, then just buy the stock coker rim, the
stock coker rim fits the tyres, and is fine at high pressures. You can
always upgrade the rim later when/if a new good rim comes out. Unless
you're super-fat or take it down 6 foot drops it should last okay, mine
has several thousand miles on it and is okay.

Joe

--
joemarshall

my pics http://gallery.unicyclist.com/albuq44
------------------------------------------------------------------------
joemarshall's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/1545
View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/57957

I wasn't saying that having a high tire pressure is a bad thing, mine is
over 32PSI too I'm afraid, you can feel the tire is hard but it doesn't
feel overly pumped or anything. If you get on your unicycle and notice
the wheel feels very strange and hard then obviously there is WAY too
much air in it or you're used to running your tire near to flat, if you
run a tube near to exploding then I don't find it too weird it would
blow out.

Pete, I will be trying a 29" tube sometime and will post what I think,
a light unicycle is very nice for road riding even though once a heavy
wheel is going it will keep going. I havn't decided yet.

--
DustinSchaap

FOUNDER OF EENWIEL.NL (\"HTTP://WWW.EENWIEL.NL\"😉
*Sponsored by 'MUNICYCLE.COM' (http://www.municycle.com) , 'QU-AX'
(http://www.qu-ax.com) and 'SEMCYCLE' (http://www.semcycle.com)*
------------------------------------------------------------------------
DustinSchaap's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/12614
View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/57957

Good to hear, Dustin...let us know if you feel any difference.

The fact remains that UDC's airfoil rim supplier has slightly reduced
the diameter of these rims. Whatever the reason, it is unacceptable.
You never heard about tires blowing off the old rims. This issue of
tire fit is EASILY correctable. But UDC has been overly-protective of
the identity of the airfoil manufacturer.

--
unisk8r
------------------------------------------------------------------------
unisk8r's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/4660
View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/57957

unisk8r said:

The fact remains that UDC's airfoil rim supplier has slightly reduced
the diameter of these rims. Whatever the reason, it is unacceptable.
You never heard about tires blowing off the old rims. This issue of
tire fit is EASILY correctable. But UDC has been overly-protective of
the identity of the airfoil manufacturer.

I think this is because currently, there is one manufacturer in the
world who is able and willing to make 36" rims. Until they find an
alternative supplier for rims, they probably don't want to [censored] the
only current supplier. The current situation is a problem for riders
round the world anyway, as the non-US unicycle.coms have to pay a
fortune for their airfoil rims, because they can't just come in the
containers with all the other unicycle stuff that comes direct from
Taiwan.

The hassle if they did lose the airfoil makers is that even if they
find a replacement maker, these things take time to set-up. The current
KH hub took *years* to get sorted.

Anyway, lets just hope they can find someone in Taiwan or wherever who
can make an aluminium rim, then we'd finally have the chance to buy an
almost completely unicyclist designed 36" unicycle.

Joe

--
joemarshall

my pics http://gallery.unicyclist.com/albuq44
------------------------------------------------------------------------
joemarshall's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/1545
View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/57957