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  1. wow...looks like the public at large is going to learn of the loon
    fringe of our sport.....as it goes prime time.

    Palmer native plans 300-mile run in Arizona
    3/15/2005, 2:07 p.m. ET
    By RENEE PRUSI
    The Associated Press

    (AP) - MARQUETTE, Mich. - Palmer native Pam Reed appreciates the
    irony when recalling her days of running track at Negaunee High School.

    "I go back to when in track in high school, I would cheat when the
    coach told us to run three miles," Reed said. "I would say, 'I'm not
    running that.' I thought it was so far. Honestly, I cheated.

    "I would be the instigator and tell all the other girls we should cut
    through people's yards instead of running the full distance."

    Reed, 44, is planning a 300-mile run. That's 300 miles without stopping
    to sleep. It's the latest goal for the woman many believe is one of the
    world's top ultramarathon athletes - runners in races of more than 30
    miles.

    Reed is scheduled to be talking about her sport and her life on the
    March 27 edition of CBS's "60 Minutes."

    The interview was completed recently in Reed's Tucson, Ariz., home.

    Reed became known to distance running enthusiasts when she emerged to
    capture the Badwater Marathon in 2002. The Badwater is one of the
    sport's ultimate events - a 125-mile trek from the depths of Death
    Valley halfway up Mount Whitney.

    In her inaugural run, Reed scorched the field, winning the race by more
    than five hours over her nearest competitor, male or female. She won
    the race again in 2003, and took fourth in 2004.

    The "60 Minutes" story is to air about the time Reed hopes to finish
    her 300-mile run. She is going to do loops on a certified course in
    Arizona, with a cadre of supporters tagging along to provide beverages
    and encouragement.

    Dean Karanazes, the top male ultramarathon runner, was Reed's
    inspiration for the distance.

    "Dean's the guy who won the Badwater and who has run 262 miles
    non-stop," she said. "He said a goal of his is to run 300 miles, but he
    hasn't done it yet.

    "My husband Jim asked me if I could do 300 miles. I thought about it
    for a day or so and said that I could," Reed said. "I talked to the guy
    who has helped me prepare for the Badwater and decided to go for it."

    Come rain, heat or drought, Reed plans to start the 300-mile run at 6
    a.m. MST. She estimates the distance will take between 60 and 72 hours
    to run, with the only stops she makes being bathroom breaks.

    "Sixty hours? That would be a dream to do it in that time," she said.
    "But whatever it takes, it will be OK."

  2. Lance,
    Why do you have to be such an [censored]? Do you TRY, or is it natural? You
    are rapidly approaching "head idiot" staus, and are close to dethroning
    Rick.

  3. Thanks for the heads up. Given the flaming that Dean Karanazes got when
    a 300 miler was first brought up it will interesting to see if Pam Reed
    gets a dose of the same. I will have to watch, 'cause to me anyone who
    can go over 30 miles is already a winner.

    Tomorrow at 11:00 am Central, on ESPN2 highlights of the NCAA Indoors.
    Anybody know who won?

    Quoted message said:

    wow...looks like the public at large is going to learn of the loon
    fringe of our sport.....as it goes prime time.

    Palmer native plans 300-mile run in Arizona
    3/15/2005, 2:07 p.m. ET
    By RENEE PRUSI
    The Associated Press

    (AP) - MARQUETTE, Mich. - Palmer native Pam Reed appreciates the
    irony when recalling her days of running track at Negaunee High School.

    "I go back to when in track in high school, I would cheat when the
    coach told us to run three miles," Reed said. "I would say, 'I'm not
    running that.' I thought it was so far. Honestly, I cheated.

    "I would be the instigator and tell all the other girls we should cut
    through people's yards instead of running the full distance."

    Reed, 44, is planning a 300-mile run. That's 300 miles without stopping
    to sleep. It's the latest goal for the woman many believe is one of the
    world's top ultramarathon athletes - runners in races of more than 30
    miles.

    Reed is scheduled to be talking about her sport and her life on the
    March 27 edition of CBS's "60 Minutes."

    The interview was completed recently in Reed's Tucson, Ariz., home.

    Reed became known to distance running enthusiasts when she emerged to
    capture the Badwater Marathon in 2002. The Badwater is one of the
    sport's ultimate events - a 125-mile trek from the depths of Death
    Valley halfway up Mount Whitney.

    In her inaugural run, Reed scorched the field, winning the race by more
    than five hours over her nearest competitor, male or female. She won
    the race again in 2003, and took fourth in 2004.

    The "60 Minutes" story is to air about the time Reed hopes to finish
    her 300-mile run. She is going to do loops on a certified course in
    Arizona, with a cadre of supporters tagging along to provide beverages
    and encouragement.

    Dean Karanazes, the top male ultramarathon runner, was Reed's
    inspiration for the distance.

    "Dean's the guy who won the Badwater and who has run 262 miles
    non-stop," she said. "He said a goal of his is to run 300 miles, but he
    hasn't done it yet.

    "My husband Jim asked me if I could do 300 miles. I thought about it
    for a day or so and said that I could," Reed said. "I talked to the guy
    who has helped me prepare for the Badwater and decided to go for it."

    Come rain, heat or drought, Reed plans to start the 300-mile run at 6
    a.m. MST. She estimates the distance will take between 60 and 72 hours
    to run, with the only stops she makes being bathroom breaks.

    "Sixty hours? That would be a dream to do it in that time," she said.
    "But whatever it takes, it will be OK."

  4. Quoted message said:

    ...and you sir are upset w/my reference of the 'lunatic fringe'?

    FFS Lance, put some attribution and quoting in!

    If you will insist in responding to trolls (who I and I suspect others will
    have KF'd), how are we supposed to know what you're talking about?

    It's not that hard and it's a basic usenet courtesy that you just don't seem
    to understand. By ignoring it, you're either just being rude or showing
    your ignorance.

    Tim

  5. That is the same negative loser who changes it posting name
    (but not the posting computer) every few weeks. Has never made
    a constructive comment about running in its career. Just update
    your kill file.

  6. Another 300 mile contender in the NY Times
    today: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/16/books/16runn.html.

    300 miles in one run must be the latest endurance
    goal several are trying to break. Impressive.

  7. rick++ said:

    That is the same negative loser who changes it posting name
    (but not the posting computer) every few weeks. Has never made
    a constructive comment about running in its career. Just update
    your kill file.

    He's already there (unless you meant Lance). My beef is with the fact that
    Lance can't (or won't) use quotes and attributions correctly.

    Tim

  8. [email hidden] wrote in message
    <[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    snipper..........<
    a stunt is a stunt. david blaine, richard branson, evil knievel, etc,
    and so forth. Ya know there was a guy in the MCM Marathon this past
    Fall that ran it backwards! Wow! And we all know the 7 Marathons in 7
    days guy (that really wasn't...but that's another story).

    Stunt - couldn't agree more, tho it's a mildly interesting one at least. But
    why the hell aren't they talking about breaking the record at 300 miles (if
    there is one). This [censored] about not stopping -- they do actually stop and
    trying not to stop at all is idiotic - is stupid and I'm sorry Pam has
    signed on to it.

    -Tony

  9. rick++ wrote in message
    <[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Another 300 mile contender in the NY Times
    today: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/16/books/16runn.html.

    300 miles in one run must be the latest endurance
    goal several are trying to break. Impressive.

    One run? With literally no stops? We all know they will stop for some
    reason. No walking? No peeing? This record (stunt) has an arbitrary
    definition, and that makes it impressive but meaningless. If they're
    talking about the BEST TIME for 300 miles then that's something very
    interesting and worthy to go for -- but they're not.

    -Tony

  10. Just hope Pam kicks dean's butt 🙂

    -Tony

  11. Tony said:

    [email hidden] wrote in message
    <[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    snipper..........<
    a stunt is a stunt. david blaine, richard branson, evil knievel, etc,
    and so forth. Ya know there was a guy in the MCM Marathon this past
    Fall that ran it backwards! Wow! And we all know the 7 Marathons in 7
    days guy (that really wasn't...but that's another story).

    Stunt - couldn't agree more, tho it's a mildly interesting one at least. But
    why the hell aren't they talking about breaking the record at 300 miles (if
    there is one).

    But why are they picking on 300 miles? Same reason that marathons are
    more popular than spartathalons?

    I'm finding it interesting that there's a bunch of hype about 300 miles
    on what will probably be a fairly easy course, but people ignore
    (fortunately, imho) the Iditarod Trail Invitational. 350 mile race (Knik
    to McGrath, started Feb 26), and there's still 3 or 4 racers enroute to
    Nome (1100 miles, started same time). One biker finished the 350 in a
    little under 4 days, then took ag (50-54) gold in national snowshoe
    running championships on March 5.

    Dot

    --
    "Do or do not. There is no try." -Yoda

  12. Whoever does it first will have the best time. Until then it's just idle
    speculation.

    Tony qtrader2@(remove)hotmail.com said:

    If they're
    talking about the BEST TIME for 300 miles then that's something very
    interesting and worthy to go for -- but they're not.

    -Tony

  13. Dot wrote in message ...

    Quoted message said:
    Tony said:

    [email hidden] wrote in message
    <[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    snipper..........<
    a stunt is a stunt. david blaine, richard branson, evil knievel, etc,
    and so forth. Ya know there was a guy in the MCM Marathon this past
    Fall that ran it backwards! Wow! And we all know the 7 Marathons in 7
    days guy (that really wasn't...but that's another story).

    Stunt - couldn't agree more, tho it's a mildly interesting one at least.


    But

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    why the hell aren't they talking about breaking the record at 300 miles


    (if

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    there is one).

    But why are they picking on 300 miles? Same reason that marathons are
    more popular than spartathalons?

    I'm finding it interesting that there's a bunch of hype about 300 miles
    on what will probably be a fairly easy course, but people ignore
    (fortunately, imho) the Iditarod Trail Invitational. 350 mile race (Knik
    to McGrath, started Feb 26), and there's still 3 or 4 racers enroute to
    Nome (1100 miles, started same time). One biker finished the 350 in a
    little under 4 days, then took ag (50-54) gold in national snowshoe
    running championships on March 5.

    Dot

    Exactly -- and it's hype about something that isn't even a race as far as I
    can tell. This thing about 'not stopping' as opposed to running in the
    fastest time is just wierd. Hype about Dean and now Pam for a non race
    thing - and on 60 mins - the public will get a very twisted view of the
    ultra world IMO, but what else is new.

    -Tony

  14. "Tim Downie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    ...and you sir are upset w/my reference of the 'lunatic fringe'?

    FFS Lance, put some attribution and quoting in!

    If you will insist in responding to trolls (who I and I suspect others
    will have KF'd), how are we supposed to know what you're talking
    about?

    It's not that hard and it's a basic usenet courtesy that you just
    don't seem to understand. By ignoring it, you're either just being
    rude or showing your ignorance.

    Pejorative adjectives aside, use the f**king reply function so we know
    who the hell you are talking to. The AOL interface was especially
    created so those lacking a GED can fiqure out how reply with quotes. 😉

    -DF

  15. Doug Freese said:

    "Tim Downie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    ...and you sir are upset w/my reference of the 'lunatic fringe'?

    FFS Lance, put some attribution and quoting in!

    If you will insist in responding to trolls (who I and I suspect
    others will have KF'd), how are we supposed to know what you're
    talking about?

    It's not that hard and it's a basic usenet courtesy that you just
    don't seem to understand. By ignoring it, you're either just being
    rude or showing your ignorance.

    Pejorative adjectives aside, use the f**king reply function so we know
    who the hell you are talking to. The AOL interface was especially
    created so those lacking a GED can fiqure out how reply with quotes.
    😉

    Google's new groups interface is partly to blame as it defaults to replying
    *without* attributions or quoting but you *can* do it, you just have to
    click a different link.

    Tim

  16. Tony said:

    Hype about Dean and now Pam for a non race
    thing - and on 60 mins - the public will get a very twisted view of the
    ultra world IMO, but what else is new.


    Owing to all the hype about Letterman tonight, and having heard
    Letterman's interview with Pam Reed after her 1st or 2nd Badwater win
    (don't remember which), I watched it, in spite of my saying I wasn't
    going to. It was a much livelier interview than Reed's, and I was
    laughing sufficiently hard that I had tears in my eyes. They really
    didn't hit on much of anything, but it entertained me for a few minutes.
    While Letterman runs, I don't think he's familiar with the ultra scene
    so Reed's interview was rather flat, I thought.

    That said, I still think they should have Dean and Pam duke it out on
    Iditarod Trail Invitational in 2006 (start with 350 mi version). See who
    can run the farthest (betcha it isn't close to 300 mi, unless the snow
    is hardpack). Then they can continue run/walk/crawl/sleep/pee / whatever
    to McGrath (350 mi) or onto Nome (1100 miles) if they're really into the
    ultra stuff. This race is almost the exact opposite of Badwater -
    temperatures, support, snow vs hot road, etc. ANd it's a race that's
    been in existence in some form (descended from Iditasport) for a number
    of years.

    Dot

    --
    "Do or do not. There is no try." -Yoda

  17. Dot wrote in message ...

    Quoted message said:
    Tony said:

    Hype about Dean and now Pam for a non race
    thing - and on 60 mins - the public will get a very twisted view of the
    ultra world IMO, but what else is new.


    Owing to all the hype about Letterman tonight, and having heard
    Letterman's interview with Pam Reed after her 1st or 2nd Badwater win
    (don't remember which), I watched it, in spite of my saying I wasn't
    going to. It was a much livelier interview than Reed's, and I was
    laughing sufficiently hard that I had tears in my eyes. They really
    didn't hit on much of anything, but it entertained me for a few minutes.
    While Letterman runs, I don't think he's familiar with the ultra scene
    so Reed's interview was rather flat, I thought.

    That said, I still think they should have Dean and Pam duke it out on
    Iditarod Trail Invitational in 2006 (start with 350 mi version). See who
    can run the farthest (betcha it isn't close to 300 mi, unless the snow
    is hardpack). Then they can continue run/walk/crawl/sleep/pee / whatever
    to McGrath (350 mi) or onto Nome (1100 miles) if they're really into the
    ultra stuff. This race is almost the exact opposite of Badwater -
    temperatures, support, snow vs hot road, etc. ANd it's a race that's
    been in existence in some form (descended from Iditasport) for a number
    of years.

    I agree, let em do McGrath. I watched too, expecting to find a
    self-promotional guy bent on distoring the running scene to suit his own
    image. Rather, to me Dean appeared to be rather dim-witted, and I found
    myself feeling sorry for the guy. He reminded me of some california people I
    once met who meditate just too damn long for their own good. Their minds are
    so empty they talk only of unknowable superstitious things. Well at least
    Dean is trying to do *something*.

    A little bit of a good thing goes a long way, too much and you turn into a
    vegetable. I wonder if Yiannis Kouros has a more colorful personality in
    person.

    http://www.lehigh.edu/dmd1/public/www-data/yiannis.html

    -Tony

    Quoted message said:


    Dot

    --
    "Do or do not. There is no try." -Yoda

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