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  1. Hi, I am somewhat of a beginner in biking, and I have 3 simple
    questions that hopefully someone can help me with. I have a Trek 1000
    and have put about 500 miles on it so far.

    1. I think there is something wrong with my gears, but I wanted to get
    a second opinion. When my front gear is on the medium cog, there is
    only one rear gear I can be in so that the change does not rub against
    the rear derailer. Plus, that one gear is very difficult to pedal in,
    so there is a huge jump in difficulty from that gear to the previous
    easy gear (small front cog, small rear cog). This doesn't seem correct
    to me.

    I know that I have somewhat of a cheap bike, so I do not expect too
    much. Can someone tell me if I should take the bike to my bikeshop, or
    what?

    2. I hate the clip pedals on this bike, so I would like to buy some
    new pedals, however I am completely ignorant in this area. If I buy
    clipless pedals, I'm guess I need to get some of those cleats that
    clip onto the pedal, correct? Can someone provide me with information
    about what would go best with a Trek 1000?

    3. Finally, I want to do some long distance, endurance rides, but I
    have been getting cut off at around 40 miles because of improper
    refueling. I tried taking a banana or two with me, but they didn't
    provide any energy. I also once took an energy bar (can't remember the
    brand), but it just upset my stomach. What is a good food to take that
    is easy to eat while pedaling and easy on the stomach?

    Thank you very much for any input you can provide.

  2. billy d. said:


    1. I think there is something wrong with my gears, but I wanted to get
    a second opinion. When my front gear is on the medium cog, there is
    only one rear gear I can be in so that the change does not rub against
    the rear derailer. Plus, that one gear is very difficult to pedal in,
    so there is a huge jump in difficulty from that gear to the previous
    easy gear (small front cog, small rear cog). This doesn't seem correct
    to me.


    There is definitally something wrong. I have the same components and can shift to all rear gears from all front rings although with some occational chain rubbing. You should get the LBS to fix this.

    Quoted post said:

    I know that I have somewhat of a cheap bike, so I do not expect too
    much. Can someone tell me if I should take the bike to my bikeshop, or
    what?


    Never call your ride cheap. As long as it works right you should never feel that your riding a "cheap" bike. Always remember "It's not about the bike".

    Quoted post said:

    2. I hate the clip pedals on this bike, so I would like to buy some
    new pedals, however I am completely ignorant in this area. If I buy
    clipless pedals, I'm guess I need to get some of those cleats that
    clip onto the pedal, correct? Can someone provide me with information
    about what would go best with a Trek 1000?


    Clipless pedals are very nice and should help you ride better. It's not what's best for your bike but what your personal preferance is and budget, all pedal will work on your bike. Some pedals are easier to clip in/out of so you should talk to your LBS to get some advise when you take your bike back to get those gears fixed.

    Quoted post said:

    3. Finally, I want to do some long distance, endurance rides, but I
    have been getting cut off at around 40 miles because of improper
    refueling. I tried taking a banana or two with me, but they didn't
    provide any energy. I also once took an energy bar (can't remember the
    brand), but it just upset my stomach. What is a good food to take that
    is easy to eat while pedaling and easy on the stomach?


    Sounds like you just need to work on building a base, you probably are trying too much too soon. I would just stay below 40 miles for a while and gradually increase your distance. As for eating while on the ride I like to carry water, gel packs, and on longer rides a Cliff Bar. Be sure to drink around 1 liter of water every hour and around 1 ounce of gel evry 30 minutes or so. I only use the enery bar when I've ridden really hard for over an hour or if I've ridden a moderate pace for over 2 hours.

    Hope this helps.
    Dan

  3. BanditManDan <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    billy d. said:


    1. I think there is something wrong with my gears, but I wanted to get
    a second opinion. When my front gear is on the medium cog, there is
    only one rear gear I can be in so that the change does not rub against
    the rear derailer. Plus, that one gear is very difficult to pedal in,
    so there is a huge jump in difficulty from that gear to the previous
    easy gear (small front cog, small rear cog). This doesn't seem correct
    to me.


    There is definitally something wrong. I have the same components and
    can shift to all rear gears from all front rings although with some
    occational chain rubbing. You should get the LBS to fix this.

    Quoted message said:

    I know that I have somewhat of a cheap bike, so I do not expect too
    much. Can someone tell me if I should take the bike to my bikeshop, or
    what?


    Never call your ride cheap. As long as it works right you should never
    feel that your riding a "cheap" bike. Always remember "It's not about
    the bike".

    Quoted message said:

    2. I hate the clip pedals on this bike, so I would like to buy some
    new pedals, however I am completely ignorant in this area. If I buy
    clipless pedals, I'm guess I need to get some of those cleats that
    clip onto the pedal, correct? Can someone provide me with information
    about what would go best with a Trek 1000?


    Clipless pedals are very nice and should help you ride better. It's
    not what's best for your bike but what your personal preferance is and
    budget, all pedal will work on your bike. Some pedals are easier to
    clip in/out of so you should talk to your LBS to get some advise when
    you take your bike back to get those gears fixed.

    Quoted message said:

    3. Finally, I want to do some long distance, endurance rides, but I
    have been getting cut off at around 40 miles because of improper
    refueling. I tried taking a banana or two with me, but they didn't
    provide any energy. I also once took an energy bar (can't remember the
    brand), but it just upset my stomach. What is a good food to take that
    is easy to eat while pedaling and easy on the stomach?


    Sounds like you just need to work on building a base, you probably are
    trying too much too soon. I would just stay below 40 miles for a while
    and gradually increase your distance. As for eating while on the ride I
    like to carry water, gel packs, and on longer rides a Cliff Bar. Be
    sure to drink around 1 liter of water every hour and around 1 ounce of
    gel evry 30 minutes or so. I only use the enery bar when I've ridden
    really hard for over an hour or if I've ridden a moderate pace for over
    2 hours.

    Hope this helps.
    Dan

    Hi Dan,

    thank you very much for your advice, it was exactly what I was looking
    for. I took the bike in today, and it feels brand new. Its the first
    time I have had the full spectrum of gears to use instead of just 5 or
    6.

  4. billy d. said:

    1. When my front gear is on the medium cog, there is
    only one rear gear I can be in so that the change does not rub against
    the rear derailer. Plus, that one gear is very difficult to pedal in,
    so there is a huge jump in difficulty from that gear to the previous
    easy gear (small front cog, small rear cog). This doesn't seem correct
    to me.

    Normally, you will shift the rear gears much more often than the front, and
    the changes in pedaling difficulty when shifting rear cogs will be small.

    The gears on the front are called chainrings. When approaching a steep
    uphill, you will shift into the small chainring, and you may also have to
    shift the rear a cog or two to get a comfortable gear ratio.

    Most of your riding should be on the middle chainring, and the chain
    shouldn't rub. You may have a "trim" feature on your front shifter to tweak
    the front derailleur so it doesn't rub the chain. You say the chain rubs
    against the REAR derailleur. That definitely shouldn't happen. Take the bike
    to the shop you got it from and have them either fix it or show you what
    you're doing wrong. It doesn't matter if the bike is inexpensive, this
    shouldn't happen.

    Also, you shouldn't use the small/small and large/large front/rear
    combinations because that puts the chain at an extreme angle. Use the small
    front ring with the three largest rear cogs. Use the middle front ring with
    the middle three rear cogs. And use the big front ring with the smaller rear
    cogs.

    Quoted message said:

    2. I hate the clip pedals on this bike, so I would like to buy some
    new pedals, however I am completely ignorant in this area. If I buy
    clipless pedals, I'm guess I need to get some of those cleats that
    clip onto the pedal, correct? Can someone provide me with information
    about what would go best with a Trek 1000?

    Get Shimano SPD pedals such as the Model PD-M520. Those are double sided
    pedals and are pretty easy to use. The cleats will come with the pedals.
    Then get cycling shoes that will work with those pedals (i.e., drilled and
    recessed for those cleats) such as the Lake MX-101.

    Quoted message said:

    3. Finally, I want to do some long distance, endurance rides, but I
    have been getting cut off at around 40 miles because of improper
    refueling. I tried taking a banana or two with me, but they didn't
    provide any energy. I also once took an energy bar (can't remember the
    brand), but it just upset my stomach. What is a good food to take that
    is easy to eat while pedaling and easy on the stomach?

    Snack every 15 miles or so, and drink even more often. Bring a sandwich
    (peanut butter & jelly is popular), packs of Fig Newtons, bananas, granola
    bars, etc. Eat before you get hungry. Or stop at a deli an buy a sandwich or
    muffin. Drink plenty of liquids too. If you're not racing, you don't need to
    eat while you ride. Pull over and take a rest break.

    Art Harris

  5. Arthur Harris said:


    Get Shimano SPD pedals such as the Model PD-M520. Those are double sided
    pedals and are pretty easy to use. The cleats will come with the pedals.
    Then get cycling shoes that will work with those pedals (i.e., drilled and
    recessed for those cleats) such as the Lake MX-101.

    As I posted before in this group--if you want to try out clipless on the
    cheap then the Nashbar Road shoes + ATB pedal is a great bet. SPD
    compatible.

    Shoes made by Lake and rebranded. Comfy and Classic.
    Pedals made by Wellgo and also rebranded--same as one of the Ritchey
    models.They work and if you hate them--you're only out twenty bucks. LOL.

    Total cost: $53 USD

    If you get the same shoes, but with the Lake logo and similar entry level
    Shimano pedals, you'll pay well over $100.

  6. [email hidden] (billy d.) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    1 and 2 have been addressed adequately -- I'll go to 3:

    Quoted message said:

    3. Finally, I want to do some long distance, endurance rides, but I
    have been getting cut off at around 40 miles because of improper
    refueling. I tried taking a banana or two with me, but they didn't
    provide any energy. I also once took an energy bar (can't remember the
    brand), but it just upset my stomach. What is a good food to take that
    is easy to eat while pedaling and easy on the stomach?

    For me, 50 miles is the knee in the curve for long rides. If I can do
    50 miles, I can do a century. So this is worth exploring. If you can
    get past that 40 mile mark, you could probably do a day-long ride.

    The most important thing is to experiment. You'll hear different
    things from different people here in terms of food, but it's your
    body, and it may work a little differently. So try things people
    suggest, and see how they work.

    First off, what are you eating before you ride? We all have different
    notions of what constitutes a solid cycling breakfast. A range of
    simple to complex carbohydrates often works for people -- whole wheat
    pancakes with syrup; oatmeal with brown sugar.

    Once the ride is underway, then there's two types of food -- snacks
    and lunch. My idea of the perfect cycling lunch is a brown rice salad:
    steamed brown rice mixed with steamed veggies, a little olive oil,
    lemon juice, garlic and herbs for flavor. My husband likes turkey
    sandwiches on whole wheat. Fruit -- bananas are traditional, but I
    think cherries are a classic, probably because they come into season
    just as I am ready to be riding those longer rides.

    Snacks: you can eat things like clif bars, but if they seem heavy,
    break them up into smaller pieces and eat them over a period of time
    -- a quarter of a clif bar every 15 minutes rather than the whole
    thing over an hour. I take trail mix sometimes -- you can keep that
    for quite a while in your bike bag. One of my favorite types of energy
    bars is a Hershey's with Almonds -- a great combo of sugar, caffiene,
    fat, and protein to fuel your ride. On very long rides, a sports gel
    (Power Gel, Gu, Clif Shot etc.) can relieve tired legs syndrome or
    pull you out of a bonk. If you use these, drink lots of water with
    them.

    Hydration: be sure to drink lots of water. A water bottle an hour
    would be a minimum. If it's hot, you'll obviously need more water. I
    recommend carrying two bottles: one with water, another with some sort
    of dilute fruit juice or sports drink. Or use a hydration pack like a
    camelbak. It is possible that your lack of endurance might be
    dehydration. How to know if you've had enough water during your ride?
    My sign is if I have to get up in the middle of the night to pee that
    night -- if not, then I didn't drink enough on the ride.

    Finally, if you're doing these longer rides, I suggest you find other
    people to ride with and find out what they're eating. They can also
    help you with other questions that arise as you get better at cycling.
    I learned *so much* from other riders in my cycling club -- and
    continue to do so now.

    Warm Regards,

    Claire Petersky
    Home of the meditative cyclist:
    http://home.earthlink.net/~cpetersky/Welcome.htm
    STP photos at: http://www.geocities.com/cpetersky/STP2004.html

  7. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] (Claire Petersky) writes in part:

    Quoted message said:

    Fruit -- bananas are traditional, but I
    think cherries are a classic, probably because they come into season
    just as I am ready to be riding those longer rides.

    Snacks: you can eat things like clif bars, but if they seem heavy,
    break them up into smaller pieces and eat them over a period of time
    -- a quarter of a clif bar every 15 minutes rather than the whole
    thing over an hour.

    I almost became inspired to invent the cherry newton.

    But I don't have all the resources conveniently at hand right
    now (I'm especially out of Crisco), so I had to chase my muse
    outa the house with a broom.

    Maybe later.

    And maybe I'll try to design something cherry-filled, with
    filo pastry.

    cheers,
    Tom

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  8. [email hidden] (Tom Keats) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    And maybe I'll try to design something cherry-filled, with
    filo pastry.

    http://www2.csr.com.au/SUGAR/wwwrsg.nsf/0/746d75dfe02ffbb84a256471008081c9?OpenDocument

    or http://tinyurl.com/6lr5l

    Warm Regards,

    Claire Petersky
    Home of the meditative cyclist:
    http://home.earthlink.net/~cpetersky/Welcome.htm

  9. In article <[email hidden]>,

    (Claire Petersky) said:

    http://www2.csr.com.au/SUGAR/wwwrsg.nsf/0/746d75dfe02ffbb84a256471008081c9?OpenDocument

    or http://tinyurl.com/6lr5l

    Boy, that sounds good. I like that it calls for real cherries
    rather than that heavily sugared, canned pie filling stuff.

    I got into this train of thought by trying to figure out a
    convenient cherry delivery system for riding -- one that
    obviates having to deal with the pits. I know if I just
    spat the pits out, sooner or later I'd accidentally shoot
    one, with split-second precision, through somebody's open
    car window.

    cheers,
    Tom

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  10. "Claire Petersky" wrote ...

    Quoted message said:

    For me, 50 miles is the knee in the curve for long rides. If I can do
    50 miles, I can do a century. So this is worth exploring. If you can
    get past that 40 mile mark, you could probably do a day-long ride.

    The only time I tried a century I made it to a Metric Century (about 66
    miles) before totally bonking ... but then I was on a "department store
    bike" at the time (and using that to commute to work 4 or 5 times a week)
    Could not pedal a single foot further ... SAG car finally picked me up and
    when we got back I could NOT get out of the car without help ... but a quick
    massage worked wonders.

    Maybe one of these days (when I have a real "road" bike) I'll try it again.

    Richard in Boston, MA, USA

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