2nd Hand Bromptons (?!)

On 26 Sep 2005 04:40:34 -0700, "Robinaki" <[email hidden]>

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The only place that i found second hand Bromptons is ebay, and it seems
they sell always for £100 cheaper than their retail price. Is it
because on ebay things always tend be more expansive than they should
be, or do Bromptons just maintain value in time so well?

Bromptons just hold their value, they're good tools and people will
pay for that.

You can keep looking, but bargain bromptons are very rare, sorry.

"Bob"
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Robinaki said:

The only place that i found second hand Bromptons is ebay, and it seems
they sell always for £100 cheaper than their retail price. Is it
because on ebay things always tend be more expansive than they should
be, or do Bromptons just maintain value in time so well?

The latter, is the bad news for you, I'm afraid.

But you can get folders which go small for quite a lot less. Things
like the Pashley Micro. Not as good as a Brom, but then it costs much
less...

Pete.
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You can keep looking, but bargain bromptons are very rare, sorry.

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"Bob"

The waiting time for new Bromptons might also help second hand models
retain their value...

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Call me Bob said:

On 26 Sep 2005 04:40:34 -0700, "Robinaki" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

The only place that i found second hand Bromptons is ebay, and it seems
they sell always for £100 cheaper than their retail price. Is it
because on ebay things always tend be more expansive than they should
be, or do Bromptons just maintain value in time so well?

Bromptons just hold their value, they're good tools and people will
pay for that.

You can keep looking, but bargain bromptons are very rare, sorry.

And the bargain ones are often stolen ones reputedly. Don't whatever
you do though be tempted by the Chinese "Merc" Brompton copy. It may be
cheap but reports are its dangerously bad as well as a complete rip off
of Brompton.

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Tony

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Robinaki said:

The only place that i found second hand Bromptons is ebay, and it seems
they sell always for =A3100 cheaper than their retail price. Is it
because on ebay things always tend be more expansive than they should
be, or do Bromptons just maintain value in time so well?

If you buy an old Brompton, check http://www.foldsoc.co.uk/stolen.html

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And the bargain ones are often stolen ones reputedly. Don't whatever you
do though be tempted by the Chinese "Merc" Brompton copy. It may be cheap
but reports are its dangerously bad as well as a complete rip off of
Brompton.

These things were for sale at Mildenhall Rally IIRC... components looked a
bit plastiky....

Cheers, helen s

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On 26 Sep 2005 04:40:34 -0700, "Robinaki" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

The only place that i found second hand Bromptons is ebay, and it seems
they sell always for £100 cheaper than their retail price. Is it
because on ebay things always tend be more expansive than they should
be, or do Bromptons just maintain value in time so well?

Bromptons just hold their value, they're good tools and people will
pay for that.

And they are expensive enough that few people buy a Brompton because they
think it might come in useful and it doesn't, nor is there an obvious
upgrade path except a better equipped Brompton, so there's little reason
to get rid of one unless you move or change job and have a different
commute.

I submit that on or about 26 Sep 2005 15:38:49 +0100 (BST), the person
known to the court as [email hidden] (Alan Braggins) made
a statement (<[email hidden]> in Your
Honour's bundle) to the following effect:

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Bromptons just hold their value, they're good tools and people will
pay for that.

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And they are expensive enough that few people buy a Brompton because they
think it might come in useful and it doesn't, nor is there an obvious
upgrade path except a better equipped Brompton, so there's little reason
to get rid of one unless you move or change job and have a different
commute.

Plus, unless your commute changes, there is rarely any actual need to
upgrade anyway. Maybe the new Ti ones will tempt a few people and
soften the second-hand price a bit?

Having said which, I think the Brom is good value for money even at
the new price. It is a device specifically designed for a given job,
refined over a couple of decades until it does it just about
perfectly.

Guy
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Could someone explain what the two pods on each handlebar are for?

and they do have the clips on the front forks so they are not confined
to super cheap Cambodian bikes.

Wow! Thanks for all the replies, i was sure that this was the best
place to start my brompton quest. I went today to have a good try on
one, it was really a comfortable ride, i was most impressed. The only
thing is that the seat post was a bit short for me (i'm 6'3"😉 and i'm
afraid that using the longer one (which they didn't have to try in the
shop) might drastically change the rinding position thus making it not
as comfortable. Is this the case? Is anyone my height using a brompton?

Robin.

Just zis Guy said:

Plus, unless your commute changes, there is rarely any actual need to
upgrade anyway. Maybe the new Ti ones will tempt a few people and
soften the second-hand price a bit?

I met a chap yesterday [1] with an 'upgraded' Brommie that cost him two grand.
It had Rohloff gearing, Hope discs - the lot.
And the chain still came off.

[1] a brilliant ride. 25 of us nearly all on small wheels, about 18
Moultons, a Birdy, the Brommie, my Bike Friday and a handful of DFs.
Nearly all off-road/cycle paths too.

John B

"Robinaki" <[email hidden]>typed

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Is anyone my height using a brompton?

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Robin.

I think Dave Holladay is 6'5"...

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Helen Deborah Vecht said:

"Robinaki" <[email hidden]>typed

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Is anyone my height using a brompton?

I think Dave Holladay is 6'5"...

Do Brompton do a version with oxygen cylinders ;-)

John B

Robinaki said:

Wow! Thanks for all the replies, i was sure that this was the best
place to start my brompton quest. I went today to have a good try on
one, it was really a comfortable ride, i was most impressed. The only
thing is that the seat post was a bit short for me (i'm 6'3"😉 and i'm
afraid that using the longer one (which they didn't have to try in the
shop) might drastically change the rinding position thus making it not
as comfortable. Is this the case? Is anyone my height using a brompton?

I'm 6'3" and found it practically unrideable with the standard seatpost,
and haven't tried since the LBS got new ones in (they now have one with
a longer seatpost).
I think a lot depends how high you normally have your saddle and bars.
My much cheaper folder has the saddle 8" higher than it went with its
original seatpost and the bars at the same height, but my other bikes
are similar so I'm fine with that.
http://pics.livejournal.com/armb/pic/00001dhf/g3
(It's changed a bit since then, but the basic position hasn't.)

Helen Deborah Vecht said:

"Robinaki" <[email hidden]>typed

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Is anyone my height using a brompton?

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Robin.

I think Dave Holladay is 6'5"...

With th eperspective I see him at it also would be an approximate
measure. I think he has a role as bromptons ultimate tester. Often to
be seen towing a small trailer (100kgs) and known to deliver bike racks
by bike.

...d

[email hidden] (Alan Braggins)typed

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I'm 6'3" and found it practically unrideable with the standard seatpost,
and haven't tried since the LBS got new ones in (they now have one with
a longer seatpost).

I'm not surprised. I'm not quite 5'6" and had the standard Brompton
seatpost all the way out...

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Robinaki said:

Wow! Thanks for all the replies, i was sure that this was the best
place to start my brompton quest. I went today to have a good try on
one, it was really a comfortable ride, i was most impressed. The only
thing is that the seat post was a bit short for me (i'm 6'3"😉 and i'm
afraid that using the longer one (which they didn't have to try in the
shop) might drastically change the rinding position thus making it not
as comfortable. Is this the case? Is anyone my height using a brompton?

Robin.

I'm a few inches taller and use the telescopic post. Its the ideal
solution as you keep the top post fixed and just drop the main post
either fully down or fully up which makes getting the right saddle
height a doddle. I can't comment on how comfortable it is compared with
the normal seat post but I find it very comfortable.

--
Tony

"I did make a mistake once - I thought I'd made a mistake but I hadn't"
Anon

JohnB said:

Helen Deborah Vecht said:

"Robinaki" <[email hidden]>typed

Quoted message said:

Is anyone my height using a brompton?

I think Dave Holladay is 6'5"...

Do Brompton do a version with oxygen cylinders ;-)

Why? Do you shorties need them down there in the exhaust fumes?

--
Tony

"I did make a mistake once - I thought I'd made a mistake but I hadn't"
Anon

Tony Raven said:

JohnB said:

Helen Deborah Vecht said:

"Robinaki" <[email hidden]>typed

> Is anyone my height using a brompton?
I think Dave Holladay is 6'5"...

Do Brompton do a version with oxygen cylinders ;-)

Why? Do you shorties need them down there in the exhaust fumes?

Less talk like that, or I'll send the boys round to headbut your
ankles..

...d