29er tyres for mud?

At least two different considerations: tire (tyre) width/volume and
tread pattern.

The widest 29er tires are the ExiWolf and the newer WeirWolf. I have
the ExiWolf and it floats better than my Kenda Klaw because of the
bigger width and volume of the ExiWolf. The tread of the ExiWolf is
small knobbies, however, so it fills in immediately and -sucks- for
climbing muddy terrain. The Kenda is better for wet climbing, but I
prefer the ExiWolf for everything else.

Search for the recent review of the WeirWolf, but IIRC the comments
were similar.

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Mark,

Who made your 29er?

I just purchased a KH 29er that I am converting to a 26 Large Marge
with a Nokian Gazzaloddi tire.

If you are interested I will post pix when it is finished. I had a
setback getting the tire from a distributors so I am waiting for the
second one to arrive...

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steveyo said:

Search for the recent review of the WeirWolf, but IIRC the comments were
similar.

Yes. The Weirwolf is not a good mud tire.

As an all-around tire, it's mediocre at best. And I'm being a little
generous.

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According to a guy who builds 29 inch DH bike wheels, the "go to" 29er
tire for rough conditions is the Kenda Nevegel. I have two ordered but
haven't gotten them yet. As Josh said, the Weirwolf is somewhat of a
joke, thin as notebook paper and a bit oversized. I did a meager 18
inch drop and blew it off the rim.

JL

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just saying, its spelt nevegal. that should help people with searching
for it.

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pcfisher said:

Mark,

Who made your 29er?

I just purchased a KH 29er that I am converting to a 26 Large Marge
with a Nokian Gazzaloddi tire.

It's a Nimbus 29er that I've bodged *a lot* to make it into a Muni.
I've just been wondering whether I should get a 26" wheel and try to
run a Gazz or a Duro Wildlife on there instead.

Quoted message said:

If you are interested I will post pix when it is finished. I had a
setback getting the tire from a distributors so I am waiting for the
second one to arrive...

Pix are always good :-) Yes please!

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pcfisher said:

I just purchased a KH 29er that I am converting to a 26 Large Marge with
a Nokian Gazzaloddi tire.

Why are you converting it to a 26? won't there end up being a ton of
clearance? Like too much? Or will it be like a 29 because of the size
of the tire? Just wondering.

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mark williamson said:

Hi all,

Does anybody have a recommendation for a 29er tyre for use in wet,
muddy conditions? I'm running a Kenda Klaw XT at the moment. It's a
nice tyre, and it's definitely an improvement over a road tyre, however
I'm still finding myself either getting bogged down in the mud, or
slipping occasionally.

Cheers,
Mark

There are plenty of big tread 29er tyres out now and more arriving all
the time. I'm currently waiting delivery on a WTB Weirolf 29x2.5 but
it's more of a hybrid than a mud tyre.
There is the Bonty Big Earl in 2.5 in 29 now with big tread pattern but
it's too aggresive for trail/town IMO. I believe Specialized are
bringing out a version of one of their 26 DH tyres. Here are some sites
where you see what's available, but there are others:
http://twentynineinches.com/cats/rumors/
http://bike29.com/catalog/tires-tubes-c-28.html

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vivalargo said:

I did a meager 18 inch drop and blew it off the rim.

May I ask what rim you were using? I just got a Weirwolf, which I plan
to put on my KH rim, and ride, just as soon as the snow melts, which
looks like it'll be the week before Moab 🙁

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Hmmm. Don't suppose of have a link to the Earl 29er? I did some
Googling and couldn't find it 🙁

Thanks for the other links though, very useful!

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I'm learning as I go along but here's what I've found so far. The
Weirwolf is no good for aggressive riding. Sidewalls too thin, too big
for the rim (I'm on a KH), and too little tred. The Kenda Nevegal is a
huge step up (and I have no idea why dealers sell any 29er with that
Kenda Klaw, which is not nearly the tire the Nevegal is). Also, and
this is crucial, the trick is to run a burly 26" DH tube, like a Gaz.
This gives a lot of extra stability and allows me to run the Nevegal at
20-22 psi. It's still mushy enough to handle some hard rolling and
absorb drops up to about 3 feet.

More later as I get the whole thing dialed in.

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Interesting. How does the Nevegal differ from the Klaw? I've not heard
much about it before. Is the tread different? What sort of terrain is
it suited for?

The idea of running a 26" tube is interesting. Is it hard to fit? Why
do you think it helps so much? Does it just give better support to the
sidewalls? Running lower pressure could be cool!

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Mark--

Most of the little I know I gleaned from e-mail conversations with Mike
Curiac, who is a sort of Mr. 29er here in the States, winning a lot of
the races and building a lot of 29er wheels (his occupation). I got
hold of Mike in the hopes of avoiding the costly trial and error
routine in trying to find out what works and what doesn't. Mike was
the one who said the Nevegal is the "Go-to" DH 29 wheel, and said he
always ran burly 26" DH tubes since all 29er tubes are paper thin. I
went with Mike's suggestions on both counts.

It's simple to stretch a 26 X 3 inch Gaz tube over a KH 29 rim, and it
seems to provide some added stability. The Nevegal is simply a better
version of the Klaw, and is about 10 bucks more--still not a legitimate
DH tire owing to single-ply sidewalls, but questionably the best thing
going so far. It's got a much more aggressive tred then the Weirwolf
and seems to be about the same width once inflated.

As mentioned on an earlier post somewhere, Mike custom ordered--to his
own specs--the first batch of true 29er DH tires and they should be out
in a few months. He placed an order for 500 so there should be enough
to go around for awhile. If the new Curiac DH 29 tire works out as
planned, then true DH runs on a 29er should be possible very shortly.

JL

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Mark, re: the Big Earl, it might have just been a rumour I heard but I
was under the distinct impression that it is either out now or coming
soon.

vivalargo: Interesting what you say about smaller, thicker tubes
providing stability, I'll try that when my Weirwolf 2.55 arrives.

When I bought my Bontrager Jones XC 29x2.25, the guy in the shop sold
me a 700cx1.75" tyre against my better judgement because it was all he
had. I realised later I could have got a fatter 26" tube. Anyway, I
pumped it up to fill the tire and it has very good stability, could
just be co-incidence, but I wonder if the tube being so over stretched
somehow helps to support the tire.

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Anybody dry the 'Panaracer Rampage' (http://tinyurl.com/2xb9n3) 29X2.35
tire?
weight: 780 g.

What about the 'Kenda Karma '
(http://bike29.com/catalog/kenda-karma-tire-p-242.html)29X2.2?
760 g.

Kenda Nevegal 29X2.2
806g.

WTB Weir Wolf 2.55
730 g.

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