26x1.0 tires

Specialized made some very nice ones untill they got sued. Evidently someone hit their pedal going
around a corner(useing these tires lowers the bb quite a bit) and instead of taking personal
responsability, sued everyone involved. So most manufacturers pulled them from the market . I have
a set of the Specialized ones if you would like them. NOS $30pr, plus $5 shipping. Hope this
helps, Garry

"Doug Miller" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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I am currently using a pair of 26x1.0 Hutchinson tires that I bought in Tokyo. These seemed to be
popular with many of the bike couriers there,

and

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I have liked riding them since they have been a cheap way of turning my mountain bike into a
reasonable approximation of a road bike. I am now

back

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in Southern California, and am trying to replace my tires. I was

eventually

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able to special order a pair, but no shop that I could find actually

carried

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this size. The closest I was able to find was a much bulkier 1.2 or 1.25.

Why is this size so hard to find? Surely I am not the only person with

only

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one bike that needs to be put to multiple uses.

Doug

Doug Miller said:

I am currently using a pair of 26x1.0 Hutchinson tires that I bought in Tokyo.

...

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Why is this size so hard to find? Surely I am not the only person with only one bike that needs to
be put to multiple uses.

Continental's Grand Prix MTB should be available at a local dealer:

conti-online.comgrand prix mtbOpen ↗
/grand_prix_mtb_en.html

Chalo Colina

In article said:

Specialized made some very nice ones untill they got sued. Evidently someone hit their pedal going
around a corner(useing these tires lowers the bb quite a bit) and instead of taking personal
responsability, sued everyone involved. So most manufacturers pulled them from the market . I have
a set of the Specialized ones if you would like them. NOS $30pr, plus $5 shipping. Hope this
helps, Garry

"Doug Miller" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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I am currently using a pair of 26x1.0 Hutchinson tires that I bought in Tokyo. These seemed to
be popular with many of the bike couriers there, and I have liked riding them since they have
been a cheap way of turning my mountain bike into a reasonable approximation of a road bike. I
am now back in Southern California, and am trying to replace my tires. I was eventually able to
special order a pair, but no shop that I could find actually carried this size. The closest I
was able to find was a much bulkier 1.2 or 1.25.

Why is this size so hard to find? Surely I am not the only person with only one bike that needs
to be put to multiple uses.

Doug

Ritchey's Tom Slick is available in 26 x 1.0", wire or Kevlar beads. Shouldn't be too hard to find.

--Chuan

waterbug-<< Why is this size so hard to find?

Because 26 inch rims are on MTBs, not 'road' bikes. Conti makes a 26 by
23mm...BTW-

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(24)440-3535 vecchios.comvecchios.comOpen ↗ "Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"

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I am currently using a pair of 26x1.0 Hutchinson tires that I bought in Tokyo. These seemed to be
popular with many of the bike couriers there, and I have liked riding them since they have been a
cheap way of turning my mountain bike into a reasonable approximation of a road bike. I am now
back in Southern California, and am trying to replace my tires. I was eventually able to special
order a pair, but no shop that I could find actually carried this size. The closest I was able to
find was a much bulkier 1.2 or 1.25.

Why is this size so hard to find? Surely I am not the only person with only one bike that needs to
be put to multiple uses.

26 x 1 is not a popular size for tires. Most 26" wheels are on mountain bikes, wearing knobby
tires even if they never go off road because everyone knows knobbies give better traction under
all conditions and are therefore safer tires. But I digress... </sarcasm> In reality, skinny
tires for 26 inchers give a harsh ride and the smaller wheel size results in higher rolling
resistance, all other things being equal (which of course is rarely the case). Basically there is
little to no market.

I know of several tire options, including the Ritchey Tom Slick, Primo (spelled "Pr1mo" on the
sidewall), Continental, Hutchinson. Specialized used to make a very good 26 x 1.0, the Turbo S,
which seems to be out of production.

26x1. tires are approximately equal to a 25mm wide tire, very narrow for a "mt bike", and probably
the reason why not very popular. Avocet makes a very nice 26x1.25 (32mm wide) tire in both
slick and inverted tread version. On my city/cruiser bike, I'm using a slick in front/inverted
tread in the rear and like it very much. Very low rolling resistance makes a very heavy/low
budget commuter reasonably fast. For more see here: slick -
avocet.comcarbon12 specs.htmlOpen ↗ (scroll down to fasgrip city) inverted -
avocet.comcross 2 specs.htmlOpen ↗ "Tim McNamara" <[email hidden]> wrote
in message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I am currently using a pair of 26x1.0 Hutchinson tires that I bought in Tokyo. These seemed to
be popular with many of the bike couriers there, and I have liked riding them since they have
been a cheap way of turning my mountain bike into a reasonable approximation of a road bike. I
am now back in Southern California, and am trying to replace my tires. I was eventually able to
special order a pair, but no shop that I could find actually carried this size. The closest I
was able to find was a much bulkier 1.2 or 1.25.

Why is this size so hard to find? Surely I am not the only person with only one bike that needs
to be put to multiple uses.

26 x 1 is not a popular size for tires. Most 26" wheels are on mountain bikes, wearing knobby
tires even if they never go off road because everyone knows knobbies give better traction under
all conditions and are therefore safer tires. But I digress... </sarcasm> In reality, skinny
tires for 26 inchers give a harsh ride and the smaller wheel size results in higher rolling
resistance, all other things being equal (which of course is rarely the case). Basically there is
little to no market.

I know of several tire options, including the Ritchey Tom Slick, Primo (spelled "Pr1mo" on the
sidewall), Continental, Hutchinson. Specialized used to make a very good 26 x 1.0, the Turbo S,
which seems to be out of production.

"bfd" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]... and so
did > "Tim McNamara" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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"]news:[email hidden]...

-snip 26x1 tire suggestions-

Did we establish that his tires are 26x1 ISO-559 mountain bike diamter? His rims may be 26x1 ISO-571
triathlon size. It might be nice to know for sure.

--
Andrew Muzi yellowjersey.orgyellowjersey.orgOpen ↗ Open every day since 1 April 1971

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I am currently using a pair of 26x1.0 Hutchinson tires that I bought in Tokyo. I am now back in
Southern California, and am trying to replace my tires. I was eventually able to special order a
pair, but no shop that I could find actually carried this size. The closest I was able to find
was a much bulkier 1.2 or 1.25.

If you don't mind mail order, Nashbar ( nashbar.comnashbar.comOpen ↗ ) list the Hutchinson Top Slick Gold
in 1" and 1.2" at $16.95 each.

James Thomson

"A Muzi" <[email hidden]> wrote

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Did we establish that his tires are 26x1 ISO-559 mountain bike diamter? His rims may be 26x1
ISO-571 triathlon size. It might be nice to know for sure.

" I have liked riding them since they have been a cheap way of turning my mountain bike into a
reasonable approximation of a road bike."

No mention of a change of wheels.

"The closest I was able to find was a much bulkier 1.2 or 1.25."

Nothing bigger than a 28mm is available in 650c, and the commonest tyres in that diameter are 23mm
or narrower.

James Thomson

In article said:

Did we establish that his tires are 26x1 ISO-559 mountain bike diamter? His rims may be 26x1
ISO-571 triathlon size. It might be nice to know for sure.

I was assuming since he said it was his mountain bike.

Doug Miller said:

Yes, they are for my mountain bike. A number of people have suggested sources for tires (thanks).
My real interest, though, was why this size isn't popular since mountain style bikes have become
such a huge part of the world bike market. The rolling resistance on these tires is much lower
than most tires meant for mountain bikes. Even given that the ride might be harsher, this should
be partially offset by the fact that most mountain bikes now have shocks. As with everything else,
there is a tradeoff to be made between ride comfort, efficiency, cost, etc. From my point of view,
these tires seem like a good fit for my current use, which is mostly commuting and some longer
road rides on the weekends.

I have a pair of 26x1.0 Specialized Fatboys on my mountain bike. These are great for road riding,
since they're totally slick (they don't even have any of those cheesy "rain grooves"😉. I don't have
shocks and I haven't found "harshness" to be an issue, even after very long rides, including a 300
km brevet last spring.

People have looked at my tires and assumed they must be very old since "all the tread is worn off".

The size isn't popular for the same reason that the lack of tread isn't popular, and for the same
reason that SUVs are popular with city drivers.

--
Benjamin Lewis

A small, but vocal, contingent even argues that tin is superior, but they are held by most to be the
lunatic fringe of Foil Deflector Beanie science.

Yes, they are for my mountain bike. A number of people have suggested sources for tires (thanks).
My real interest, though, was why this size isn't popular since mountain style bikes have become
such a huge part of the world bike market. The rolling resistance on these tires is much lower than
most tires meant for mountain bikes. Even given that the ride might be harsher, this should be
partially offset by the fact that most mountain bikes now have shocks. As with everything else,
there is a tradeoff to be made between ride comfort, efficiency, cost, etc. From my point of view,
these tires seem like a good fit for my current use, which is mostly commuting and some longer road
rides on the weekends.

Doug

Tim McNamara <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

In article said:

Did we establish that his tires are 26x1 ISO-559 mountain bike diamter? His rims may be 26x1
ISO-571 triathlon size. It might be nice to know for sure.

I was assuming since he said it was his mountain bike.

In article said:

My real interest, though, was why this size isn't popular since mountain style bikes have become
such a huge part of the world bike market.

Probably because most people (1) rarely ever ride the bikes they buy and (2) those who do ride their
mountain bikes usually drive their SUV to the trailhead with the bike on a rack.

Benjamin Lewis said:

I have a pair of 26x1.0 Specialized Fatboys on my mountain bike. These are great for road riding,
since they're totally slick (they don't even have any of those cheesy "rain grooves"😉. I don't have
shocks and I haven't found "harshness" to be an issue, even after very long rides, including a 300
km brevet last spring.

People have looked at my tires and assumed they must be very old since "all the tread is worn off".

I had someone make this exact comment about the 1.25" Specialized Fatboys on my bike when they had
less than 50 km on them.

Quoted message said:

The size isn't popular for the same reason that the lack of tread isn't popular, and for the same
reason that SUVs are popular with city drivers.

There is just widespread ignorance about tread on tires and cyclists are by no means immune. As a
result, I have never seen a 26x1.0 tire for sale here in TO and I rarely see 1.25" slicks for sale
either (MEC has the Tioga City Slicker of course, but it has those sipes that you mention including
one right down the middle of the tire which seems like an especially poor choice).

I actually prefer a larger tire (1.9" front, 1.5" rear) for errands and commuting (the roads here
are in atrocious shape) and trying to find a completely slick tire in this sizing is even more
difficult.

Chris B. said:

Benjamin Lewis said:

I have a pair of 26x1.0 Specialized Fatboys on my mountain bike. These are great for road riding,
since they're totally slick (they don't even have any of those cheesy "rain grooves"😉. I don't
have shocks and I haven't found "harshness" to be an issue, even after very long rides, including
a 300 km brevet last spring.

People have looked at my tires and assumed they must be very old since "all the tread is
worn off".

I had someone make this exact comment about the 1.25" Specialized Fatboys on my bike when they had
less than 50 km on them.

Oops, mine are 1.25" as well. I think that's the only width they come in.

I'd gone a little farther than that, but I was still able to reply "yeah, they're almost a
week old!"

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

The size isn't popular for the same reason that the lack of tread isn't popular, and for the same
reason that SUVs are popular with city drivers.

There is just widespread ignorance about tread on tires and cyclists are by no means immune. As a
result, I have never seen a 26x1.0 tire for sale here in TO

To be fair, in most cases if you're interested in tires that narrow you're probably better off with
a road bike.

Quoted message said:

and I rarely see 1.25" slicks for sale either (MEC has the Tioga City Slicker of course, but it
has those sipes that you mention including one right down the middle of the tire which seems like
an especially poor choice).

They also carry the Panaracer Pasela (26x1.25), and Richey Tom Slicks
(26x1.4). Both of these also have rain sipes, so they're a little less than ideal; I haven't tried
either of them. The Paselas seem to have a decent reputation, for what it's worth.

Quoted message said:

I actually prefer a larger tire (1.9" front, 1.5" rear) for errands and commuting (the roads here
are in atrocious shape) and trying to find a completely slick tire in this sizing is even more
difficult.

Heck, I couldn't even find a completely slick tire for my road bike. They don't carry Avocet tires
in Canada at the moment, unfortunately. If you don't mind ordering from the states, they have them
in 26x1.9" and 26x1.5". I believe you can order them from Sheldon Brown's site. Ah, yes:

sheldonbrown.com559.htmlOpen ↗

--
Benjamin Lewis

A small, but vocal, contingent even argues that tin is superior, but they are held by most to be the
lunatic fringe of Foil Deflector Beanie science.

In article <[email hidden]>,

Benjamin Lewis said:

Chris B. said:

Benjamin Lewis said:

I have a pair of 26x1.0 Specialized Fatboys on my mountain bike. These are great for road
riding, since they're totally slick (they don't even have any of those cheesy "rain grooves"😉.
I don't have shocks and I haven't found "harshness" to be an issue, even after very long rides,
including a 300 km brevet last spring.

People have looked at my tires and assumed they must be very old since "all the tread is worn
off".

I had someone make this exact comment about the 1.25" Specialized Fatboys on my bike when they
had less than 50 km on them.

Oops, mine are 1.25" as well. I think that's the only width they come in.

I'd gone a little farther than that, but I was still able to reply "yeah, they're almost a
week old!"

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

The size isn't popular for the same reason that the lack of tread isn't popular, and for the
same reason that SUVs are popular with city drivers.

There is just widespread ignorance about tread on tires and cyclists are by no means immune. As
a result, I have never seen a 26x1.0 tire for sale here in TO

To be fair, in most cases if you're interested in tires that narrow you're probably better off
with a road bike.

Quoted message said:

and I rarely see 1.25" slicks for sale either (MEC has the Tioga City Slicker of course, but it
has those sipes that you mention including one right down the middle of the tire which seems
like an especially poor choice).

They also carry the Panaracer Pasela (26x1.25), and Richey Tom Slicks
(26x1.4). Both of these also have rain sipes, so they're a little less than ideal; I haven't tried
either of them. The Paselas seem to have a decent reputation, for what it's worth.

There's an article in this month's Momentum which claims extremely good wear life out of the City
Slickers. I agree with you about wishing for fewer rain sipes, but mine have given me no trouble in
the time I have owned them. Maybe they just use a really hard rubber compound.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I actually prefer a larger tire (1.9" front, 1.5" rear) for errands and commuting (the roads
here are in atrocious shape) and trying to find a completely slick tire in this sizing is even
more difficult.

Heck, I couldn't even find a completely slick tire for my road bike. They don't carry Avocet tires
in Canada at the moment, unfortunately.

No?! Not even at the nerd-racer shops like La Bicicletta and Campione? Weird.

Oh well, I'll use my 20 (!) mm "textured" road tires until they wear out. So skinny I don't have to
open my brake QR when I drop a wheel. Maybe 23 or 25 mm next time, though I was happy riding these
wheels on a metric century, so harshness is not a problem.

--
Ryan Cousineau, [email hidden] sfu.ca~rcousineOpen ↗ President, Fabrizio Mazzoleni Fan Club

Ryan Cousineau said:

Benjamin Lewis said:

Heck, I couldn't even find a completely slick tire for my road bike. They don't carry Avocet
tires in Canada at the moment, unfortunately.

No?! Not even at the nerd-racer shops like La Bicicletta and Campione? Weird.

Well, I didn't try at Campione, and my preference was for 25mm or possibly 28mm tires (I went with
"28mm" that are actually about 25mm). They may have had 23mm slicks at La Bicicletta, but I don't
remember seeing any. In any case, it's not easy to find a decent looking pair of road slicks even
on the web.

As for Avocet tires, I gather they don't work through the normal distributors, or something, so
nobody carries them here at the moment.

I'm using "Vittoria Randonneur" tires, which have had exactly one flat since I got them around 4000
km ago. I don't know if this has anything to do with the tires, or is just due to not running over
pointy things.

They have "rain sipes", and some sort of anti-puncture layer, so the rolling resistance probably
isn't great. They're also about 490 grams of rotating weight, which is probably equivalent to about
10 kg elsewhere.

Quoted message said:

Oh well, I'll use my 20 (!) mm "textured" road tires until they wear out. So skinny I don't have
to open my brake QR when I drop a wheel. Maybe 23 or 25 mm next time, though I was happy riding
these wheels on a metric century, so harshness is not a problem.

I'm sure that's just because of your soft, luxurious steel frame, and your carbon fork.

--
Benjamin Lewis

Don't take life so serious, son, it ain't nohow permanent. -- Walt Kelly

In article <[email hidden]>,

Benjamin Lewis said:

Ryan Cousineau said:

Benjamin Lewis <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

As for Avocet tires, I gather they don't work through the normal distributors, or something, so
nobody carries them here at the moment.

I'm using "Vittoria Randonneur" tires, which have had exactly one flat since I got them around
4000 km ago. I don't know if this has anything to do with the tires, or is just due to not running
over pointy things.

They have "rain sipes", and some sort of anti-puncture layer, so the rolling resistance probably
isn't great. They're also about 490 grams of rotating weight, which is probably equivalent to
about 10 kg elsewhere.

I believe the correct ratio, as I read in the last issue of Bicycling, is 3:1. I am not
making this up.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Oh well, I'll use my 20 (!) mm "textured" road tires until they wear out. So skinny I don't have
to open my brake QR when I drop a wheel. Maybe 23 or 25 mm next time, though I was happy riding
these wheels on a metric century, so harshness is not a problem.

I'm sure that's just because of your soft, luxurious steel frame, and your carbon fork.

The steel frame was probably not as soft when it was first made, but since I bought it used, it has
been broken in nicely and now rides like buttah.

Of course, I think the real key is that my nice comfy Selle Italia Nitrox has a full 2 mm of foam
padding under my ischial tuberosities. You could be this comfy too if you would just dump that
antique leather saddle. Between this and the fat tires you favour, it's no wonder I beat you in the
last Populaire.

Fortunately, I am willing to trade you straight-up for an unused Nitrox. Aren't I a nice guy?

BTW, I figure you still owe me a road race 🙂. Want to ride the first Tuesday Night Crit? Only $5...

Be like Fabrizio,
--
Ryan Cousineau, [email hidden] sfu.ca~rcousineOpen ↗ President, Fabrizio Mazzoleni Fan Club

Ryan Cousineau said:

In article said:

They have "rain sipes", and some sort of anti-puncture layer, so the rolling resistance probably
isn't great. They're also about 490 grams of rotating weight, which is probably equivalent to
about 10 kg elsewhere.

I believe the correct ratio, as I read in the last issue of Bicycling, is 3:1. I am not making
this up.

Ah, but that was probably for spokes. The tire is at the outer edge of the wheel, and having the
weight at a larger radius makes the difference greater. I can't figure out the calculations, but
20:1 sounds about right to me.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Oh well, I'll use my 20 (!) mm "textured" road tires until they wear out. So skinny I don't have
to open my brake QR when I drop a wheel. Maybe 23 or 25 mm next time, though I was happy riding
these wheels on a metric century, so harshness is not a problem.

I'm sure that's just because of your soft, luxurious steel frame, and your carbon fork.

The steel frame was probably not as soft when it was first made, but since I bought it used, it
has been broken in nicely and now rides like buttah.

My frame is pretty new still, so it hasn't softened up much yet. That's why I need the wide tires.

Quoted message said:

Of course, I think the real key is that my nice comfy Selle Italia Nitrox has a full 2 mm of foam
padding under my ischial tuberosities. You could be this comfy too if you would just dump that
antique leather saddle. Between this and the fat tires you favour, it's no wonder I beat you in
the last Populaire.

My arriving 20 minutes late didn't help much, though, and I didn't have the luxury of letting a
crowd of Velo Vets in front of me do all the work for
me.

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Fortunately, I am willing to trade you straight-up for an unused Nitrox. Aren't I a nice guy?

You can have my saddle when you pry it from my cold, dead . . . uh, never mind, I won't go there.

Quoted message said:

BTW, I figure you still owe me a road race 🙂. Want to ride the first Tuesday Night Crit?
Only $5...

I'm seriously out of shape now -- I haven't even been on the bike since the Populaire.

--
Benjamin Lewis

Don't take life so serious, son, it ain't nohow permanent. -- Walt Kelly