24 or 29er?

The ideal machine for technical Muni is a 24" It'll be boring on
firetrails.
A 29er is less capabile for technical stuff, but much better on
firetrails.

If you're going to get a 36er anyways, get the 24" A 36er is great for
firetrails.

Having short cranks (125s) available will make the 24" more tolerable
for firetrails.

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Are you planning on doing a lot of uphill riding? If so, I would
recommend the 24".

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mscalisi said:

The ideal machine for technical Muni is a 24" It'll be boring on
firetrails.
A 29er is less capabile for technical stuff, but much better on
firetrails.

If you're going to get a 36er anyways, get the 24" A 36er is great for
firetrails.

Having short cranks (125s) available will make the 24" more tolerable
for firetrails.

Thanks, that's kinda what i was thinking. How durable are 36ers? Would
I be able to take it on fairly rocky trails?

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I have both setup with 150mm cranks. I think the differences boil down
to whether you want to roll and go faster with a KH29 or tackle really
steep/rocky/rooted trails with a KH24. The KH29 is more fun for
fireroads and singletrack, but the KH24 is better when natural trials
is involved. You also should consider who you plan to ride with
because you'll probably have more fun if your pace is about the same.

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phlegm said:

I have both setup with 150mm cranks. I think the differences boil down
to whether you want to roll and go faster with a KH29 or tackle really
steep/rocky/rooted trails with a KH24. The KH29 is more fun for
fireroads and singletrack, but the KH24 is better when natural trials
is involved. You also should consider who you plan to ride with
because you'll probably have more fun if your pace is about the same.

hmm, I ride alone for the most part..But i think i am going to get the
KH24 and then in a couple months i will get a nimbus 36er..maybe i will
get that in january with all the money i get for my birthday(im turning
18 and having a big party so lots of people @ party = lots of cards
with money 😄 )

woop. thanks for the advice guys..I think that with colder weather
aproaching i will be doing more technical stuff and less distance
stuff. KH24 here i come!

(also, phlegm the line under your name cracks me up)

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subsonic87 said:

Are you planning on doing a lot of uphill riding? If so, I would
recommend the 24".

I wouldn't. The narrower (and lighter?) 29x2.1 tire on a KH29, in my
experience, climbs just as easily (on a typical steep fireroad climb)
as the 24x3 Duro on my KH24.

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Have you ridden either a 24 or 29 yet? If you've only ridden a 20
before, then you may find that jumping strait to a 29 and expecting to
do technical trails quite disheartening.

Getting a 24 now will be fine for the technical stuff, and it will be
fine for the fire roads too. However, once you've gone up to a 29,
you'll never be able to go back to the 24 for fire roads. It'll just
seem too slow. But until you know the difference, you won't notice.

Likewise, once you've got your 36, you probably won't want to touch
your 29 for fire roads!

Not sure if that actually helps at all though.

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Stay away from steel rims and narrow hubs (stock coker). Other than
that, they're plenty strong. Depends on what you mean by "fairly
rocky". For "medium technical" a 29er might be better. Still, you might
be surprised what a 36er can handle.

unisteez said:

Thanks, that's kinda what i was thinking. How durable are 36ers? Would I
be able to take it on fairly rocky trails?

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The nimbus is a screaming deal. It should be able to handle anything you
have the courage for.

unisteez said:

hmm, I ride alone for the most part..But i think i am going to get the
KH24 and then in a couple months i will get a nimbus 36er..maybe i will
get that in january with all the money i get for my birthday(im turning
18 and having a big party so lots of people @ party = lots of cards
with money 😄 )

woop. thanks for the advice guys..I think that with colder weather
aproaching i will be doing more technical stuff and less distance
stuff. KH24 here i come!

(also, phlegm the line under your name cracks me up)

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I have never ridden a 29er but I once rode a 24inch. That is part of the
reason why I have decided to go with the 24in. for now. After I get the
KH24 I think i am going to get the nimbus 36er. I am interested in
doing distance riding and figure I can use the 36er for fast road
riding and fireroad/singletrack type stuff. Then, if i feel the need, i
may get a 29er. Or perhaps i will get a 29er and then 36er? (or just
36er haha..i feel so indecisive.)

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I tend to agree. The technicality of a trail, more so than the
steepness, dictates what the wheel size should be. For climbing,
momentum is your friend, and it's harder to keep momentum on a smaller
wheel. Of course, once you're in a situation where you're cranking out
half a rotation at a time, leverage is your friend, and smaller
wheels/longer cranks are better at that.

phlegm said:

I wouldn't. The narrower (and lighter?) 29x2.1 tire on a KH29, in my
experience, climbs just as easily (on a typical steep fireroad climb)
as the 24x3 Duro on my KH24.

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mscalisi said:

Of course, once you're in a situation where you're cranking out half a
rotation at a time, leverage is your friend, and smaller wheels/longer
cranks are better at that.

Even when climbing gets to half rotations though, I feel like the two
KH sizes are pretty evenly matched because of the tire sizes. Maybe
I'd feel differently if I had a lighter, narrower tire on my KH24.

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wow, noone has even mentioned a 26" KH yet...

anyway,
I would suggest building up a KH 26 muni. faster than a 24, and still
able to do very technical stuff.

KH 29 frame
KH seat
KH seatpost ect.
snafus
KH hub/ cranks(I'd guess 165's would be good)
rim of your choice
tons of tires, pcik one.

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tugboat said:

Hopping over a 7 set rail... I made it over and and cleared the set, but
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When I got my 24" I was actually really surprised because it was a heck
of alot faster than i thought it would be. I would go with the 24" but
do trails with more climbing and you'll like it.

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mornish said:

wow, noone has even mentioned a 26" KH yet...

anyway,
I would suggest building up a KH 26 muni. faster than a 24, and still
able to do very technical stuff.

KH 29 frame
KH seat
KH seatpost ect.
snafus
KH hub/ cranks(I'd guess 165's would be good)
rim of your choice
tons of tires, pcik one.

I was gonna mention making a 26 inch muni.

Then you can still do technical stuff, and have good speed. Best of
both worlds. =p

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buy a 29 and add a 2.55 to it its inane technical and fast

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If i were to get a 26in. would the Sun Mammoth 26 x 2.0 Rim be a good
choice?

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I know the sun doublewide rim would work great in it, as seen 'here'
(http://tinyurl.com/ohzpv).

Or you can also use an Alex rim as in this 'one'
(http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52557).

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I'd go for the sun doublewide, because I think it's a better rim, though
certainly both are great rims. I believe the sun doublewide is wider
than the alex rim, so then I'd choose that one. There are also tryall
rims in 26".

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dan de man said:

this game is worse that playing Rock Paper Sissors on an internet forum

tugboat said:

Hopping over a 7 set rail... I made it over and and cleared the set, but
the impact apparently wasn't good for the wheel...

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