Well to be fair, it doesn't appear that Silence-Lotto has a TEAM doping program if and only because they aren't exactly the strongest team in the world (that isn't to say that Cadel - or anyone by themselves - is clean - I've got no idea).thoughtforfood said:Lets not start the "Cadel lost because everyone else dopes" excuse train. He had every opportunity to win the race in the mountains, and he didn't take the initiative to do so. He didn't win.
I wonder what VdV teammates think of him.Bro Deal said:I have not been very happy with this year's Tour. It seems even more of a farce than before.
Vande Velde spent years on Postal then moved to Liberty Seguros and then to CSC before becoming a clean cyclist on Slipstream, where he challenges for the Tour podium. Uh, yeah...right.
Sastre pulls out an amazing time trial performance ala Leipheimer and Contador.
Schumacher must be jacked to the moon. He could win next year if he slightly improves his climbing.
The whole CSC team looks suspicious as all get out.
Et cetera.
Wouldn't count out Rogers if he can get some luck, and I for one hope Trent Lowe continues to progress....he rode for Jittery Joe's, and not only do I know the guys who started the coffee shop chain, but I rode with the DS in the '90's.fscyclist said:Alright, Aussies. Time to go to cry yourselves to sleep now. Won't be an Aussie Tour champ for at least another decade.
I'd be keeping a 6ft gap if I was in the media trying to interview Cadel.classic1 said:How do you explain the Schlecks poor rides? Sastre 12th at 2 1/2 minutes in a final TT is pretty much to form. Evans at 2 minutes isn't to normal form. He rode poorly. End of story.
Honest question from someone FAR from an expert - How good is a healthy Michael Rogers anyway?fscyclist said:Alright, Aussies. Time to go to cry yourselves to sleep now. Won't be an Aussie Tour champ for at least another decade.
Rogers is the Tommy D of Australia.thoughtforfood said:Wouldn't count out Rogers if he can get some luck, and I for one hope Trent Lowe continues to progress....he rode for Jittery Joe's, and not only do I know the guys who started the coffee shop chain, but I rode with the DS in the '90's.
Don't count on him getting busted. They SHOULD be more sophistocated than that, or they wouldn't have let him take the stage.serpico7 said:Sastre's doping control results will NOT be ready by tomorrow, correct?
If Evans would have ridden a minute faster then that would probably be about where he would be expected to ride in relation to Cancellara and the uber man from Germany. He still would have lost to Sastre.classic1 said:How do you explain the Schlecks poor rides? Sastre 12th at 2 1/2 minutes in a final TT is pretty much to form. Evans at 2 minutes isn't to normal form. He rode poorly. End of story.
Ouch....but could be true. Maybe we need to start a "Mick Rogers is lighting it up" thread?fscyclist said:Rogers is the Tommy D of Australia.
They are interviewing Potatohead, HE pisses me off just looking at him.thoughtforfood said:Ouch....but could be true. Maybe we need to start a "Mick Rogers is lighting it up" thread?
Speaking of, does anyone know if his head has grown larger over the years?thoughtforfood said:They are interviewing Potatohead, HE pisses me off just looking at him.
From last years time trial to this years time trial schumacher had over a 4 minute turnaround in the last time trial (He was 2.26 back of Evans last year), this is with him being on the attack each of the last 4 or 5 days? I always give every one a benefit of the doubt, innocent before guilty, but this is just way to hard to even fathom.thoughtforfood said:They are interviewing Potatohead, HE pisses me off just looking at him.
Evans tires at the end of Tours. His second long ITT is weaker than the first.Capt.Injury said:From last years time trial to this years time trial schumacher had over a 4 minute turnaround in the last time trial (He was 2.26 back of Evans last year), this is with him being on the attack each of the last 4 or 5 days? I always give every one a benefit of the doubt, innocent before guilty, but this is just way to hard to even fathom.
LIke it has been said, I think it was more about Cadel riding that bad, more then Sastre riding that good. Sastre compared to the other riders isn't that much more exceptionally, he rode a little better which is believeable, just Cadel wasn't good. He never looked comfortable, he was riding with mouth wide open within the first 5 km, trying to scrounge for the power.
When did he stop doping? When he left Mapei or when he left T-Mobile?plectrum said:I think though this clearly shows Evans to be a clean rider who showed deterioration which is normal without recovery drugs during a long 21 stage tour.
The main difference was Sastre had CSC all around him, while Cadel's only company from the team was his team car, and some days, I thought that the car was stuck in the gruppetto.Bro Deal said:Evans tires at the end of Tours. His second long ITT is weaker than the first.
Sastre on the other hand looked like a machine going up the Alpe.
He's an anxious guy I think. Too much anxiety... blood vessels constrict. Maybe.Capt.Injury said:.... just Cadel wasn't good. He never looked comfortable, he was riding with mouth wide open within the first 5 km, trying to scrounge for the power.
+1.Bro Deal said:When did he stop doping? When he left Mapei or when he left T-Mobile?
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