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  1. Well it's been 200 days of continuous riding since I re-started biking
    after many years layoff, and in the last two weeks I've felt definite
    changes.

    Rather than feeling like I'm getting the propulsive energy from my quads,
    often it feels like I'm getting it from sacral area, and where the body
    hinges, in aero-position. (weird, huh?) In fact this happened a couple days
    a go to such a degree that I rode my course twice just to continue to
    experience it. It's a good feeling and you really don't get tired.

    -B

  2. "Badger_South" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    Well it's been 200 days of continuous riding since I re-started biking
    after many years layoff, and in the last two weeks I've felt definite
    changes.

    Rather than feeling like I'm getting the propulsive energy from my quads,
    often it feels like I'm getting it from sacral area, and where the body
    hinges, in aero-position. (weird, huh?) In fact this happened a couple


    days

    Quoted message said:

    a go to such a degree that I rode my course twice just to continue to
    experience it. It's a good feeling and you really don't get tired.

    -B

    I'm not sure what the sacral area is ... and I'm not sure I want to know.
    But a racing friend of mine told me several years ago that a good spin
    starts from the hip. He used the analogy of one of those old locomotives
    where there was a big driving wheel and the smaller wheels were turned by
    rods connected to the bigger wheel. Well the big wheel is the hip.
    Obviously, the rods are the femur and lower leg. The smaller wheel is the
    crank. (duh)

    Once I got my mind around it and experienced the feeling like that was
    happening, it helped get me to a whole new level in a big hurry. It
    especially helps when you're really starting to hurt, like trying to keep up
    with a faster pack or when climbing a big hill, to remind yourself to spin
    from the hip. It puts things back together.

    Bob C.

  3. On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 09:47:56 -0400, "psycholist" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    "Badger_South" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    Well it's been 200 days of continuous riding since I re-started biking
    after many years layoff, and in the last two weeks I've felt definite
    changes.

    Rather than feeling like I'm getting the propulsive energy from my quads,
    often it feels like I'm getting it from sacral area, and where the body
    hinges, in aero-position. (weird, huh?) In fact this happened a couple


    days

    Quoted message said:

    a go to such a degree that I rode my course twice just to continue to
    experience it. It's a good feeling and you really don't get tired.

    -B

    I'm not sure what the sacral area is ... and I'm not sure I want to know.
    But a racing friend of mine told me several years ago that a good spin
    starts from the hip. He used the analogy of one of those old locomotives
    where there was a big driving wheel and the smaller wheels were turned by
    rods connected to the bigger wheel. Well the big wheel is the hip.
    Obviously, the rods are the femur and lower leg. The smaller wheel is the
    crank. (duh)

    Once I got my mind around it and experienced the feeling like that was
    happening, it helped get me to a whole new level in a big hurry. It
    especially helps when you're really starting to hurt, like trying to keep up
    with a faster pack or when climbing a big hill, to remind yourself to spin
    from the hip. It puts things back together.

    Bob C.

    Yeah, that's it. When I said 'sacral' I picked that b/c it's in the
    middle/center/back of the hip. If you just say "hip", ppl might think of
    the lateral hip. This is coming from the center of the hip, but in the
    back. Spin from the hip is exactly what I meant.

    I've been consciously 'spinning from the hip' b/c my left hip has an injury
    and it 'tweaks' and can feel week in the left leg at each revolution. But
    if I work and stretch, I can get it not to hurt, sometimes. (I think it's a
    touch of sciatica or a nerve impingment).

    So just like one tries to think 'left, left' to bring the non-dominate leg
    up to the right or dominate leg and share the effort equally, I think
    '(left) hip, (left) hip'.

    Well, it's good to know that it's a bit more than psychological. And, it is
    a cool way to use less energy, or get more energy, etc.

    -B

  4. "Badger_South" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 09:47:56 -0400, "psycholist" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    "Badger_South" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    Well it's been 200 days of continuous riding since I re-started biking
    after many years layoff, and in the last two weeks I've felt definite
    changes.

    Rather than feeling like I'm getting the propulsive energy from my


    quads,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    often it feels like I'm getting it from sacral area, and where the body
    hinges, in aero-position. (weird, huh?) In fact this happened a couple


    days

    Quoted message said:

    a go to such a degree that I rode my course twice just to continue to
    experience it. It's a good feeling and you really don't get tired.

    -B

    I'm not sure what the sacral area is ... and I'm not sure I want to know.
    But a racing friend of mine told me several years ago that a good spin
    starts from the hip. He used the analogy of one of those old locomotives
    where there was a big driving wheel and the smaller wheels were turned by
    rods connected to the bigger wheel. Well the big wheel is the hip.
    Obviously, the rods are the femur and lower leg. The smaller wheel is


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    crank. (duh)

    Once I got my mind around it and experienced the feeling like that was
    happening, it helped get me to a whole new level in a big hurry. It
    especially helps when you're really starting to hurt, like trying to keep


    up

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    with a faster pack or when climbing a big hill, to remind yourself to


    spin

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    from the hip. It puts things back together.

    Bob C.

    Yeah, that's it. When I said 'sacral' I picked that b/c it's in the
    middle/center/back of the hip. If you just say "hip", ppl might think of
    the lateral hip. This is coming from the center of the hip, but in the
    back. Spin from the hip is exactly what I meant.

    I've been consciously 'spinning from the hip' b/c my left hip has an


    injury

    Quoted message said:

    and it 'tweaks' and can feel week in the left leg at each revolution. But
    if I work and stretch, I can get it not to hurt, sometimes. (I think it's


    a

    Quoted message said:

    touch of sciatica or a nerve impingment).

    So just like one tries to think 'left, left' to bring the non-dominate leg
    up to the right or dominate leg and share the effort equally, I think
    '(left) hip, (left) hip'.

    Well, it's good to know that it's a bit more than psychological. And, it


    is

    Quoted message said:

    a cool way to use less energy, or get more energy, etc.

    -B

    Oh, btw ... congrats on your 200 days back on the bike!

    Bob C.

  5. If by the sacral area you are referring to the gluteus maximus (buttocks
    muscles), yes. Many cyclists don't know that these muscles play a larger
    part in pedalling than they think.

    When they ache after a hard day in the mountains, they will realize it,
    though! LOL!

    - -

    "May you have the wind at your back.
    And a really low gear for the hills!"

    Chris Zacho ~ "Your Friendly Neighborhood Wheelman"

    Chris'Z Corner
    http://www.geocities.com/czcorner

  6. "Chris Zacho "The Wheelman"" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Many cyclists don't know that these muscles play a larger
    part in pedalling than they think.

    So that explains the size of my butt.

    --
    Warm Regards,

    Claire Petersky
    Please replace earthlink for mouse-potato and .net for .com
    Home of the meditative cyclist:
    http://home.earthlink.net/~cpetersky/Welcome.htm
    See the books I've set free at: http://bookcrossing.com/referral/Cpetersky

  7. On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 21:19:40 -0400, [email hidden] (Chris
    Zacho "The Wheelman"😉 wrote in message
    <[email hidden]>:

    Quoted message said:

    If by the sacral area you are referring to the gluteus maximus (buttocks
    muscles), yes. Many cyclists don't know that these muscles play a larger
    part in pedalling than they think.

    This fact becomes blindingly obvious after riding 25 miles per day for
    a week ;-)

    Especially on a recumbent. If only mine was not still broken.

    --
    Guy
    ===
    May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
    http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

    88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at Washington University

  8. Just zis Guy, you know? <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    [email hidden]

    Quoted message said:

    On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 21:19:40 -0400, [email hidden] (Chris
    Zacho "The Wheelman"😉 wrote in message
    <[email hidden]>:

    Quoted message said:

    If by the sacral area you are referring to the gluteus maximus
    (buttocks muscles), yes. Many cyclists don't know that these muscles
    play a larger part in pedalling than they think.

    This fact becomes blindingly obvious after riding 25 miles per day for
    a week ;-)

    Especially on a recumbent. If only mine was not still broken.

    Your butt is broken? That's really sad.

    --

    A: Top-posters.
    Q: What is the most annoying thing on Usenet?

  9. Sun, 18 Apr 2004 02:55:37 +1000, <[email hidden]>, "DRS"

    Quoted message said:

    Your butt is broken? That's really sad.

    Just cracked, actually.
    --
    zk

  10. Zoot Katz <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    [email hidden]

    Quoted message said:

    Sun, 18 Apr 2004 02:55:37 +1000, <[email hidden]>, "DRS"

    Quoted message said:

    Your butt is broken? That's really sad.

    Just cracked, actually.

    Nothing a bit of plaster of paris wouldn't fix then, eh?

    --

    A: Top-posters.
    Q: What is the most annoying thing on Usenet?

  11. Claire Petersky said:


    "Chris Zacho "The Wheelman"" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Many cyclists don't know that these muscles play a larger
    part in pedalling than they think.

    So that explains the size of my butt.

    i'll second that. not yours, tho, mine. or maybe even third or fourth it.
    it's pretty big. again mine. not yours.

    (years of not telling women their butts were big have gone into this post.
    not that yours is, i wouldn't know).

    not f'in guilty.

    i didn't say a thing.
    --
    david reuteler
    [email hidden]

  12. DRS said:

    Zoot Katz <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Your butt is broken? That's really sad.


    Just cracked, actually.

    Nothing a bit of plaster of paris wouldn't fix then, eh?

    http://www.duluthtrading.com sells Crack Spackle for this purpose.
    --
    Rick Onanian

  13. On 17 Apr 2004 17:51:36 GMT, David Reuteler <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    (years of not telling women their butts were big have gone into this post.
    not that yours is, i wouldn't know).

    You've just gotten yourself in trouble. The right thing to say was:
    ....not that yours is, because it certainly isn't. It's perfect.
    --
    Rick Onanian

  14. From: [email hidden] (DRS)

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Your butt is broken? That's really sad.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Just cracked, actually.

    Quoted message said:

    Nothing a bit of plaster of paris wouldn't
    fix then, eh?

    Idiot! you cant fix a cracked butt with Plaster of Paris!

    It has to be TIG welded!

    - -

    "May you have the wind at your back.
    And a really low gear for the hills!"

    Chris Zacho ~ "Your Friendly Neighborhood Wheelman"

    Chris'Z Corner
    http://www.geocities.com/czcorner

  15. "Rick Onanian" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    On 17 Apr 2004 17:51:36 GMT, David Reuteler <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    (years of not telling women their butts were big have gone into this


    post.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    not that yours is, i wouldn't know).

    You've just gotten yourself in trouble. The right thing to say was:
    ...not that yours is, because it certainly isn't. It's perfect.
    --


    There are no women whose butts are big, have been in the past, or will be in
    the future.

    Even though their butts are not big, is it possible that their butts look
    big in particular clothing?

    No, this is not possible.

  16. Chris Zacho 'The Wheelman said:

    From: [email hidden] (DRS)

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Your butt is broken? That's really sad.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > Just cracked, actually.

    Quoted message said:

    Nothing a bit of plaster of paris wouldn't
    fix then, eh?

    Idiot! you cant fix a cracked butt with Plaster of Paris!

    It has to be TIG welded!

    You're all nuts.

    Duct Tape.

    Bill "hope he shaves first, though" S.

  17. Mike Kruger said:

    "Rick Onanian" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    On 17 Apr 2004 17:51:36 GMT, David Reuteler <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    (years of not telling women their butts were big have gone into this


    post.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    not that yours is, i wouldn't know).

    You've just gotten yourself in trouble. The right thing to say was:
    ...not that yours is, because it certainly isn't. It's perfect.
    --


    There are no women whose butts are big, have been in the past, or will be in
    the future.

    Even though their butts are not big, is it possible that their butts look
    big in particular clothing?

    No, this is not possible.

    It almost sounds like you are paraphrasing this:

    http://www.livejournal.com/users/quislibet/164084.html

    mehercle!
    Rebecca, ecce! tantae clunes isti sunt!
    amica esse videtur istorum hominum rhythmicorum.

    He's from Seattle you know. Which reminds me, I really need to go and
    check out his new CD.

    --
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