110 bcd double crankset

sounds cool to me. my knees could use that as well, but I've taken the plunge and gone for a triple.

Shimano 105, stuff, not too bad on cost, but it means you buying new shifters.

Something to keep in mind that Tylers crank is made by Full Speed Ahead (FSA) and is only available
in carbon if its available to the public. They used the 110 bolt size as this is the standard size
for mtb chianrings so that they could have a good selection of off the shelf sizes to choose from
for the stages. Also keep in mind, the cranks alone will set you back $250+!

Best of luck with the conversion...

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I just saw an article about Tyler Hamilton using a 110 bcd crank with 52 x 36 chainrings.

I am interested in a similar setup (110 bcd double) as where I live it is very hilly and I am
interested in doing a few 100+ mile rides with 10,000 ft of climbing. I am currently running a
Campy Daytona 9sp double front derailleur and a 9 speed double Daytona rear derailleur. I have a
clamp on front derailleur. Is it possible to run either a 52 or 50 and a 34 inner ring with this
set up? I would prefer not to have to go the triple route due to cost.

My questions are these:

a) With a front double derailleur what is the maximum tooth difference I can run with chainrings?
b) What is the largest rear cogset? I am running a 13 x 26, but have a 13 x 28.

I am looking at Dimension Cross Crankset.

Thanks for any help you can give me.

Jim Bondra

In article said:

Something to keep in mind that Tylers crank is made by Full Speed Ahead (FSA) and is only available
in carbon if its available to the public.

They make an aluminum one as well. So do a lot of other manufacturers-- 110BCD is a standard size
for touring bikes. But lots of double cranks have been and are made for 110 BCD.

Eric

TA make a 110BCD crankset (the Zephyr Light), Rivendell still have stock of the Ritchey 110BCD
double (made by Sugino) and also another Sugino 110BCD double. You can get five arm 110BCD splined
spiders to fit MTB cranksets that have a removeable spider.

Why do you need a 50 or 52? 48-11 is almost exactly the same gear as 53-12. I use 48-34 chainrings
with an 11-23 10s cassette for road racing and 13-29 cassette for pottering around in the hills. And
the Daytona derailleur has no problems with the 29t rear sprocket.

Nick

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I just saw an article about Tyler Hamilton using a 110 bcd crank with 52 x 36 chainrings.

I am interested in a similar setup (110 bcd double) as where I live it is very hilly and I am
interested in doing a few 100+ mile rides with 10,000 ft of climbing. I am currently running a
Campy Daytona 9sp double front derailleur and a 9 speed double Daytona rear derailleur. I have a
clamp on front derailleur. Is it possible to run either a 52 or 50 and a 34 inner ring with this
set up? I would prefer not to have to go the triple route due to cost.

I currently run a 48/34 on 2 Campy bicycles, one is 9 and the other is 10sp. Using a regular cage
derailleur, I can run 12/23, 13/28, 13/29
w/o problem. I size the chain for 48/28 and just put in whatever cassette I like. The shifting from
34 to 50 is difficult and 34 to 48 can be seamless with the proper front derailleur. A Campy 10
works better than a Campy 9 and I have no idea as to why. A Shimano 105 works best. The large ring
you select should have pronounced pins and ramps.

I have an extra Dimension Crankset, 48/34 that I'd like to sell. I bought it for my wife but she
insisted on a triple I have the BB and
31.8 clamp derailleur too. You really won't need the bb because the 111 Daytona bb, ISO bb will work
like the 107 JIT bb that is required. Should you be a weight weenie, I have a ti World Class bb
that is 110 that works with the crankset too.

(James Bondra) said:

I am interested in a similar setup (110 bcd double) as where I live it is very hilly and I am
interested in doing a few 100+ mile rides with 10,000 ft of climbing. I am currently running a
Campy Daytona 9sp double front derailleur and a 9 speed double Daytona rear derailleur. I have a
clamp on front derailleur. Is it possible to run either a 52 or 50 and a 34 inner ring with this
set up? I would prefer not to have to go the triple route due to cost.

My questions are these:

a) With a front double derailleur what is the maximum tooth difference I can run with chainrings?
b) What is the largest rear cogset? I am running a 13 x 26, but have a 13 x 28.

I am looking at Dimension Cross Crankset.

(Eric Murray) said:

But lots of double cranks have been and are made for 110 BCD.

No longer true.

James Bondra said:

I just saw an article about Tyler Hamilton using a 110 bcd crank with 52 x 36 chainrings.

I am interested in a similar setup (110 bcd double) as where I live it is very hilly and I am
interested in doing a few 100+ mile rides with 10,000 ft of climbing. I am currently running a
Campy Daytona 9sp double front derailleur and a 9 speed double Daytona rear derailleur. I have a
clamp on front derailleur. Is it possible to run either a 52 or 50 and a 34 inner ring with this
set up? I would prefer not to have to go the triple route due to cost.

My questions are these:

a) With a front double derailleur what is the maximum tooth difference I can run with chainrings?

I run a 53x33 110 double with a _standard_ 105 double front derailleur. It is rated for 14t but
works just fine for more.

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b) What is the largest rear cogset? I am running a 13 x 26, but have a 13 x 28.

I use the following combos (and others):

53x39 & 12x23 53x36 & 12x24 53x36 & 13x25 53x33 & 12x24 53x33 & 12x28 53x33 & 13x28

My r-der is a DA triple because I like the way it looks w/ the 13t pulleys.

Virtually no adjustments are necessary for changing the gears other than actually changing the inner
ring and/or the cassette.

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I am looking at Dimension Cross Crankset.

Rivendell has a couple of different and nice 110 cranks (at different price levels). The Ritchey is
a very nice cold-forged crank that weighs in @ approximately the same as the 7402 DA crank.

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Thanks for any help you can give me.

no prob

Nick Payne said:

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Why do you need a 50 or 52? 48-11 is almost exactly the same gear as 53-12.

Drivetrain life will be better for the 53-12 setup than 48-11. (Chain tension will be lower, along
with more teeth/links engaged.) "Chordal action" will be less noticed for bigger cogs.

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I use 48-34 chainrings with an 11-23 10s cassette for road racing and 13-29 cassette for pottering
around in the hills. And the Daytona derailleur has no problems with the 29t rear sprocket.

Eric Murray said:

They make an aluminum one as well. So do a lot of other manufacturers-- 110BCD is a standard size
for touring bikes. But lots of double cranks have been and are made for 110 BCD.

Not so much anymore. I was actually suprised to see FSA was making them. 110's are becoming unusual
for triples too. It's too bad. 110 is probably the most versatile size around because you can get
rings from 34T-61T inclusive.

BTW, Colorado Cyclist sells the FSA 110 crank for US$329. They call it "compact" which is odd since
that's the "full size" for triples which is giving way to the 94mm compact triples. I guess 110 is
compact next to a 130. There's nothing compact about the price.

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Paul Kopit said:

(Eric Murray) said:

But lots of double cranks have been and are made for 110 BCD.

No longer true.

So history has been somehow revised?

No longer *half* true.

You spend a substantial proportion of your riding time in the 53-12, do you? When can we expect the
EuroPro contract to be signed?

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Drivetrain life will be better for the 53-12 setup than 48-11. (Chain

tension will be lower, along with more

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teeth/links engaged.) "Chordal action" will be less noticed for bigger

cogs.

jbonda-<< I am interested in a similar setup (110 bcd double) as where I live it is very hilly and I
am interested in doing a few 100+ mile rides with 10,000 ft of climbing. I am currently running a
Campy Daytona 9sp double front derailleur and a 9 speed double Daytona rear derailleur. I have a
clamp on front derailleur. Is it possible to run either a 52 or 50 and a 34 inner ring with this set
up? I would prefer not to have to go the triple route due to cost. >><BR><BR>

yes to the front der but smallest ring is a 39t...many 110mm bolt diameter cranks out there tho-for
a 50/34...which is the setup FSA is sellin'''

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James Bondra at [email hidden] wrote on 7/30/03 1:13 PM:

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I just saw an article about Tyler Hamilton using a 110 bcd crank with 52 x 36 chainrings.

I am interested in a similar setup (110 bcd double) as where I live it is very hilly and I am
interested in doing a few 100+ mile rides with 10,000 ft of climbing. I am currently running a
Campy Daytona 9sp double front derailleur and a 9 speed double Daytona rear derailleur. I have a
clamp on front derailleur. Is it possible to run either a 52 or 50 and a 34 inner ring with this
set up? I would prefer not to have to go the triple route due to cost.

50 to 36 is a bit more reasonable. Still a pretty big jump. I'd start with a 48/36 and see if you
can't cover it with that.

Quoted message said:

My questions are these:

a) With a front double derailleur what is the maximum tooth difference I can run with chainrings?

~12 - 14 tooth difference range is common on a double.

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b) What is the largest rear cogset? I am running a 13 x 26, but have a 13 x 28.

Determined by your rear deraulleur - you could go to a long cage and run a 11x32 if you can find one
to your liking.

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I am looking at Dimension Cross Crankset.

Dunno what the Dimension runs, but there's a nice Ritchey double that has those specs - (just
received the Riv paper catalog...)
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Jim Edgar said:

Determined by your rear deraulleur - you could go to a long cage and run a 11x32 if you can find
one to your liking.

Choices of large cog cassettes are limited and the jumps between cogs like 18 to 21 are noticeable.
A 48/34 with a 12/27 is about the same as a 53/39 with a 13/32. You need no special rear derailleur
and you can use Campy hubs.

"Precious" and "Pup" eh? Well named.