10 speed conversion pains

[Paul Kopit]

On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:33:49 -0500, Doug Taylor
<[email protected]> wrote:

>So, until SRAM finally comes out with a 10 speed chain, IRD is the
>best 10 choice for Shimano drive trains for riders who want a snap
>link AND use 11 tooth cogs to give them a high gear for compact rings.

A SRAM 9sp link, "Powerlink II" works fine with 10 sp chan and 11t
cogs.

 

[Doug Taylor]

On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:01:25 GMT, Paul Kopit
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:33:49 -0500, Doug Taylor
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>So, until SRAM finally comes out with a 10 speed chain, IRD is the
>>best 10 choice for Shimano drive trains for riders who want a snap
>>link AND use 11 tooth cogs to give them a high gear for compact rings.
>
>A SRAM 9sp link, "Powerlink II" works fine with 10 sp chan and 11t
>cogs.

I agree it "works" though the 9 speed Powerlink is clearly wider than
the 10 speed chain. I was actually surprised that the wide link
didn't skip when running through 10 speed cogs.

Still, it doesn't appear to be the optimal solution, which for my
money is a 10 speed chain with a 10 speed "quick" link that is
symmetrical and the same size as all the other links. Until SRAM
comes out with a 10 speed chain, the IRD chain and link fits the bill.

 

[Paul Kopit]

On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 09:43:56 -0500, Doug Taylor
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I agree it "works" though the 9 speed Powerlink is clearly wider than
>the 10 speed chain. I was actually surprised that the wide link
>didn't skip when running through 10 speed cogs.

I too was amazed when a friend told me he was using it with Shimano 10
chain and a full Campy 10 bike with an 11t cog. At the time, he was
having difficulty with the IRD link skipping on the 11t. I looked
carefully at the design and think that maybe the link sideplates can
move toward each other and result in a narrower profile.

 

[Doug Taylor]

On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 19:21:53 GMT, Paul Kopit
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I too was amazed when a friend told me he was using it with Shimano 10
>chain and a full Campy 10 bike with an 11t cog. At the time, he was
>having difficulty with the IRD link skipping on the 11t. I looked
>carefully at the design and think that maybe the link sideplates can
>move toward each other and result in a narrower profile.

Even more amazing that the IRD snap link is made and sold by the
(only) company that makes an 11-28 cogset for 10 speed drive trains
and makes a chain to go with it, with the snap link.

 

[Qui si parla Campagnolo]

Paul Kopit wrote:
> On 16 Jan 2006 20:52:04 -0800, "Joel" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >4. Buy an IRD compact FD since I hace compact crankset, not sure if
> >this derailleur works with ST-7800 shifters?
>
> Would not be my choice. The unit is for braze on mount only and
> requires an adapter for any clamp on application. The spring or
> leverage point of the unit makes it require more lever pressure to
> move outward. If you still are interested, I'll sell you an almost
> new one for $25 shipped.
>
> Regular Campy 9 and 10 front derailleurs work fine with 50/34.
>
> A Shimano 8sp DA is a great catch.
>
> I've heard wonderful things about the FSA compact front derailleurs
> but have no personal experience.
>
> I don't know why your 7700 won't work fine.

Because shimano made the dimensions of the front derailleur and hence
the travel of the front derailleur different with 9s and 10s left
shifters. You can make it work but shimano just wears me out sometimes.