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10-speed compatibility -- again.

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  1. I have two bikes w. Campy shifters. I use Shimano-compatible rear wheels almost all the time. I
    am considering upgrading to compact cranks, but only if I can use 10-speed cassettes. Can I put
    10-speed Shimano cassettes on my Shimano-compatible rear wheels and shift them well using my Campy
    shifters?

    What I have:
    1999 Athena 9-speed shifters (late '99, fully compatible with everything since). Will need to be
    upgraded.
    2004 Centaur 10-speed shifters

    FWIW, I am happy to report that running 9-speed Shimano cassettes with the above always
    worked well. (Of course, running Campy worked too.)

    Thanks.

    Kirby.

  2. Kirby Krieger said:

    I have two bikes w. Campy shifters. I use Shimano- compatible rear
    wheels almost all the time. I am considering upgrading to compact
    cranks, but only if I can use 10-speed cassettes. Can I put 10-speed
    Shimano cassettes on my Shimano-compatible rear wheels and shift them
    well using my Campy shifters?
    What I have: 1999 Athena 9-speed shifters (late '99, fully compatible
    with everything since). Will need to be upgraded. 2004 Centaur 10-
    speed shifters
    FWIW, I am happy to report that running 9-speed Shimano cassettes with
    the above always worked well. (Of course, running Campy worked too.)
    Thanks.
    Kirby.

    Campagnolo 9-speed center-to-center 4.55 mm, cog thickness 1.75 mm, and
    spacer thickness 2.8 mm Shimano 9-speed center to center 4.34 mm, cog
    thickness 1.78 mm, and spacer thickness 2.56 mm

    Campagnolo 10-speed 4.12 mm, 1.75 mm, 2.42 mm Shimano 10-speed 3.95 mm,
    1.6 mm, 2.35 mm

    I think that the same "sloppiness" tolerance will be there with the
    requirement for reduction of ~0.2 mm rear derailer movement for each
    increment on Dura Ace 10 cassette. I always wondered how it worked with
    the indexing differences, stop positions, and cumulative errors. I am to
    Anal Retentive to try it at this time, but I certainly have seen the 9
    speed swap working on many bicycles. I would start the experiment with a
    DURA ACE 10 speed chain, just because it is slightly narrower on the
    outside.... however lateral chain width and lateral chain flexibility
    are both considerations.

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  3. Use American Classic conversion cassettes, which have Campagnolo 10s spacing
    and fit Shimano hubs. I have one of them on a Dura-Ace hub and the shifting
    is indistinguishable from a Chorus cassette on a Chorus hub when used on the
    same bike.

    Plus the Am Classic cassette is cheaper than the Dura-Ace 10 cassette...

    Nick

    "Kirby Krieger" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    I have two bikes w. Campy shifters. I use Shimano-compatible rear wheels


    almost all the time. I

    Quoted message said:

    am considering upgrading to compact cranks, but only if I can use 10-speed


    cassettes. Can I put

    Quoted message said:

    10-speed Shimano cassettes on my Shimano-compatible rear wheels and shift


    them well using my Campy

    Quoted message said:

    shifters?

  4. Kirby-<< Can I put
    10-speed Shimano cassettes on my Shimano-compatible rear wheels and shift them
    well using my Campy
    shifters? >><BR><BR>

    Yep, use a shimano 10s chain for best results.
    It will work fine.

    BTW-you can upgrade those 1999 Athena levers to 10s with a shift disc and front
    bushing.

    EC-RE-061 and EC-RE-062

    Peter Chisholm
    Vecchio's Bicicletteria
    1833 Pearl St.
    Boulder, CO, 80302
    (303)440-3535
    http://www.vecchios.com
    "Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"

  5. Qui Si Parla Ca said:

    Kirby-<< Can I put 10-speed Shimano cassettes on my Shimano- compatible
    rear wheels and shift them well using my Campy shifters? >>
    Yep, use a shimano 10s chain for best results. It will work fine.
    BTW-you can upgrade those 1999 Athena levers to 10s with a shift disc
    and front bushing.
    EC-RE-061 and EC-RE-062
    Peter Chisholm Vecchio's Bicicletteria 1833 Pearl St. Boulder, CO, 80302
    (303)440-3535 http://www.vecchios.com/http://www.vecchios.com "Ruote
    convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"

    I've gone and done it again.

    On the advice of Pete Chisholm I bought campag 10s centaur levers and
    long cage rear mech to replace the shimano tiagra 9s levers and long
    r/d. The hub was ultegra with ultegra 12-27 cassette.

    It works fine.

    I have previously had success with running campag record 8s levers with
    shimano 600 7s hub and cassette.

    Michael Anderson Cheltenham.

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