1" steerer in 1 1/8 headset

meb said:

Might want to drop a Ruby fork with 1" steerer into a 1 1/8 headset this weekend. Is there a sleeve or something that adapts those steerers to the change?

Is there a common tubing or pipe that might be had at Home Depot if LBS don't have that as a common stock item?

Found em on ebay so they exist. Is that a common item that I can get at the LBS?

meb said:

meb said:

Might want to drop a Ruby fork with 1" steerer into a 1 1/8 headset this
weekend. Is there a sleeve or something that adapts those steerers to
the change?

Is there a common tubing or pipe that might be had at Home Depot if LBS
don't have that as a common stock item?

Found em on ebay so they exist. Is that a common item that I can get
at the LBS?

--
meb

yes, from Quality Bike Parts, I have them on my Moots.

http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/2005/feb/chisholm.htm

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meb said:

meb said:

Might want to drop a Ruby fork with 1" steerer into a 1 1/8 headset

this

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weekend. Is there a sleeve or something that adapts those steerers to
the change?

Is there a common tubing or pipe that might be had at Home Depot if

LBS

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don't have that as a common stock item?

Found em on ebay so they exist. Is that a common item that I can get
at the LBS?

--
meb

yes, from Quality Bike Parts, I have them on my Moots.

http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/2005/feb/chisholm.htm

What about the crown race and bearings? How would a 1" crown race fit in a
1&1/8" headset cup?

I am not aware that there is an adapter sleeve that allows the use of
an oversized headset on a 1" steerer. The usual way to go about this is
to get the apropriate reducer rings *and* a 1" headset. These are
precision parts and you cannot get suitable equivalents from a hardware
store. Chris King also has its line of devolution headsets that adapt 1
1/8" head tubes to 1" steerers but that's not the best option for the
budget minded.

You can, though, get adapter sleeves for attaching a 1 1/8" stem to a
1" steerer. Many aftermarket 1 1/8" road stems come with these sleeves
to accomodate the existing base of 1" threadless bikes. Any shop or
online store that carries QBP will be able to get these for you. You
can use the hardware store to pick up the parts you need for a homemade
headset press. You will have to press in the rings first and then the
1" cups.

ellis said:

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meb said:

meb said:

Might want to drop a Ruby fork with 1" steerer into a 1 1/8 headset

this

Quoted message said:

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weekend. Is there a sleeve or something that adapts those steerers to
the change?

Is there a common tubing or pipe that might be had at Home Depot if

LBS

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don't have that as a common stock item?

Found em on ebay so they exist. Is that a common item that I can get
at the LBS?

--
meb

yes, from Quality Bike Parts, I have them on my Moots.

http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/2005/feb/chisholm.htm

What about the crown race and bearings? How would a 1" crown race fit in a
1&1/8" headset cup?

Good point. With only 1/16" in radius difference, wouldn't the bearings meet and just ride at wider parts of the races than normal on the lower races?
Is that an issue short term with friction?
Is that an issue long term with wear?
This is a wheel size experiment so would only try it for 200 miles max.

Suspect on the upper that might be just the opposite, so that might be a tight squeeze. Could I accomodate short term with smaller diameter bearings?

quote='Qui si parla Campagnolo'meb said:

meb said:

Might want to drop a Ruby fork with 1" steerer into a 1 1/8 headset this
weekend. Is there a sleeve or something that adapts those steerers to
the change?

Is there a common tubing or pipe that might be had at Home Depot if LBS
don't have that as a common stock item?

Found em on ebay so they exist. Is that a common item that I can get
at the LBS?

--
meb

yes, from Quality Bike Parts, I have them on my Moots.

http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/2005/feb/chisholm.htm[/QUOTE]

Does that mean it's a special order item at most shops?

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meb wrote:
> meb Wrote:
> > Might want to drop a Ruby fork with 1" steerer into a 1 1/8

headset
this

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> > weekend. Is there a sleeve or something that adapts those

steerers to

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> > the change?
> >
> > Is there a common tubing or pipe that might be had at Home Depot

if
LBS

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> > don't have that as a common stock item?
>
> Found em on ebay so they exist. Is that a common item that I can

get

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> at the LBS?
>
>
> --
> meb

yes, from Quality Bike Parts, I have them on my Moots.

http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/2005/feb/chisholm.htm

What about the crown race and bearings? How would a 1" crown race fit
in a
1&1/8" headset cup?

Good point. With only 1/16" in radius difference, wouldn't the
bearings meet and just ride at wider parts of the races than normal on
the lower races?
Is that an issue short term with friction?
Is that an issue long term with wear?
This is a wheel size experiment so would only try it for 200 miles max.

Suspect on the upper that might be just the opposite, so that might be
a tight squeeze. Could I accomodate short term with smaller diameter
bearings?

--
meb

I saw some kid bring a k-mart bike into a friend's shop. The bike didn't
steer at all, and when my friend pulled out the threaded headset, all the
balls fell out of the cups. It turned out some genius fit a 1" fork in a
1&1/8" headtube (the top large nut was a 1" as well), and the wrong size
bearing cage pitted the insides of the cups so that my friend had to tell
the kid he had to stick a new 1&1/8" headset and a 1&1/8" fork. The kid
wasn't too happy.

ellis said:

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meb wrote:
> meb Wrote:
> > Might want to drop a Ruby fork with 1" steerer into a 1 1/8

headset
this

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> > weekend. Is there a sleeve or something that adapts those

steerers to

Quoted message said:

> > the change?
> >
> > Is there a common tubing or pipe that might be had at Home Depot

if
LBS

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> > don't have that as a common stock item?
>
> Found em on ebay so they exist. Is that a common item that I can

get

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> at the LBS?
>
>
> --
> meb

yes, from Quality Bike Parts, I have them on my Moots.

http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/2005/feb/chisholm.htm

What about the crown race and bearings? How would a 1" crown race fit
in a
1&1/8" headset cup?

Good point. With only 1/16" in radius difference, wouldn't the
bearings meet and just ride at wider parts of the races than normal on
the lower races?
Is that an issue short term with friction?
Is that an issue long term with wear?
This is a wheel size experiment so would only try it for 200 miles max.

Suspect on the upper that might be just the opposite, so that might be
a tight squeeze. Could I accomodate short term with smaller diameter
bearings?

--
meb

I saw some kid bring a k-mart bike into a friend's shop. The bike didn't
steer at all, and when my friend pulled out the threaded headset, all the
balls fell out of the cups. It turned out some genius fit a 1" fork in a
1&1/8" headtube (the top large nut was a 1" as well), and the wrong size
bearing cage pitted the insides of the cups so that my friend had to tell
the kid he had to stick a new 1&1/8" headset and a 1&1/8" fork. The kid
wasn't too happy.

Guess it's not worth the damage risk. Thanks all.

ellis said:

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yes, from Quality Bike Parts, I have them on my Moots.

http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/2005/feb/chisholm.htm

What about the crown race and bearings? How would a 1" crown race fit in a
1&1/8" headset cup?

They are headset reducers that push into the 1 1/8inch frame headtube
so that you may then install a 1 inch HS. No need to change the fork
crown race as you you are using an entire 1 inch HS, with 1 inch fork,
in the frame.

meb said:

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yes, from Quality Bike Parts, I have them on my Moots.

http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/2005/feb/chisholm.htm

Does that mean it's a special order item at most shops?

--
meb

probably altho I think we have one let.

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ellis said:

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yes, from Quality Bike Parts, I have them on my Moots.

http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/2005/feb/chisholm.htm

What about the crown race and bearings? How would a 1" crown race fit

in a

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1&1/8" headset cup?

They are headset reducers that push into the 1 1/8inch frame headtube
so that you may then install a 1 inch HS. No need to change the fork
crown race as you you are using an entire 1 inch HS, with 1 inch fork,
in the frame.

Here we go:
http://www.pricepoint.com/detail/11856-318_TAMHS1-3-Parts-63-Headsets/Tamer-Headset-Reducer-offerIN050QB1.htm

Not sure if this will reduce 1&1/8" to 1" . Better call or email.