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  1. Aussie cyclists defend gold haul amid drug slurs

    9 minutes ago

    ATHENS (AFP) - Australian cyclists said their unprecedented six gold medal
    success at the Athens Olympics was wholly on merit amid residual doping
    suspicions.

    The Australian cyclists came to Athens hounded by drug accusations, bans,
    sackings, appeals and bitter internal feuds.

    But they will leave the Olympics with a record haul of six golds, two silver
    and two bronze - twice the tally of nearest rivals Russia.

    The Australian cycling program was tainted in the months before Athens by
    drug-taking allegations and months of being dragged through the mud by
    police, judicial and customs investigations.

    Former world sprint cyclist Jobie Dajka was forced out of the Australian
    team's training camp just a few weeks before the Games after admitting lying
    to an official doping inquiry and junior world track champion Mark French
    was banned for two years and from the Olympics for life after syringes and
    traces of equine steroids were found in his room.

    But the triumphant Australian team said they had undergone multiple doping
    tests while competing in Athens and were clean.

    "I've had four (drug tests) in the past five days," said dual gold medallist
    Ryan Bayley at a press conference on Thursday.

    "He (the Olympic drug tester) was going to write my name on the chair
    because I was there every day."

    Four-time Olympian Shane Kelly, cleared by a drugs investigator after being
    one of five riders named by the now-banned French, said cyclists were among
    the most tested of all Olympians.

    "We've had inquiries, we've been cleared of everything," Kelly said.

    "If there is still doubt, what can we do?" asked Kelly, who said he had
    undergone six tests in the past month. "All we can do is get on the track
    and win medals."

    Australian Olympic Committee chief John Coates stressed at the press
    conference that Dajka had been cut from the Olympic team for being
    untruthful to two inquiries rather than for taking banned drugs.

    Australian track coach Martin Barras, asked after Wednesday's final night's
    competition if some of the Australian public were bound to remain sceptical
    over the team's outstanding results, said:

    "You can't help it, I'm not bothered with that."

    His message to the detractors was "give us a fair go."

    Head coach Shayne Bannan said he hoped Australians would get behind the
    cyclists now after it felt like the country was against them over the last
    few months.

    "I think so, I hope so," Bannan said. "When we get on the track, it's for
    Australia. I think they would.

    "For some of them it was a pretty hard time, they wondered why are we doing
    this sport, Australia actually seems to be against us. I think that really
    pulled everybody together."

    --
    Peloton Pigs--Flying Since 1991

  2. "B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Just a comment on this:

    Quoted message said:


    The Australian cycling program was tainted in the months before Athens by
    drug-taking allegations and months of being dragged through the mud by
    police, judicial and customs investigations.


    ....And certain sections of the Aussie media (it appears with a little help
    from the AOC) which bought the Mark French story lock, stock and barrel
    without considering that *maybe* he was telling an untruth or two, as
    suggested by the CAS which described French's testimony as "implausible".
    The back pedalling on this was incredible.

    Funny thing is, none of the Australian gold medalists were among those
    "named" by French, apart from Graeme Brown...but Brown was not even in
    Adelaide when the alleged "shooting gallery" was holding its AGM!

    Fair enough to come down hard on the guilty parties, but it shouldn't taint
    the whole team/sport. It's like saying that a whole firm of lawyers is
    corrupt just because one or two of them are. Perish the thought.

    Jeff

  3. "Jeff Jones" <jeff@cyclingnews-punt-com> wrote in message
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    "B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    <snip>

    Just a comment on this:

    Quoted message said:


    The Australian cycling program was tainted in the months before Athens by
    drug-taking allegations and months of being dragged through the mud by
    police, judicial and customs investigations.


    ...And certain sections of the Aussie media (it appears with a little help
    from the AOC) which bought the Mark French story lock, stock and barrel
    without considering that *maybe* he was telling an untruth or two, as
    suggested by the CAS which described French's testimony as "implausible".
    The back pedalling on this was incredible.

    Funny thing is, none of the Australian gold medalists were among those
    "named" by French, apart from Graeme Brown...but Brown was not even in
    Adelaide when the alleged "shooting gallery" was holding its AGM!

    Fair enough to come down hard on the guilty parties, but it shouldn't
    taint
    the whole team/sport. It's like saying that a whole firm of lawyers is
    corrupt just because one or two of them are. Perish the thought.

    Jeff

    Perish the thought, indeed.

  4. "B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "Jeff Jones" <jeff@cyclingnews-punt-com> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    <snip>

    Just a comment on this:

    Quoted message said:


    The Australian cycling program was tainted in the months before Athens
    by
    drug-taking allegations and months of being dragged through the mud by
    police, judicial and customs investigations.


    ...And certain sections of the Aussie media (it appears with a little
    help
    from the AOC) which bought the Mark French story lock, stock and barrel
    without considering that *maybe* he was telling an untruth or two, as
    suggested by the CAS which described French's testimony as "implausible".
    The back pedalling on this was incredible.

    Funny thing is, none of the Australian gold medalists were among those
    "named" by French, apart from Graeme Brown...but Brown was not even in
    Adelaide when the alleged "shooting gallery" was holding its AGM!

    Fair enough to come down hard on the guilty parties, but it shouldn't
    taint
    the whole team/sport. It's like saying that a whole firm of lawyers is
    corrupt just because one or two of them are. Perish the thought.

    Jeff

    Perish the thought, indeed.

    I should add, Jeff that partners in a law firm are liable for the misdeeds
    of fellow partners--not criminally, but for civil damages.

  5. B. Lafferty said:


    "B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "Jeff Jones" <jeff@cyclingnews-punt-com> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    <snip>

    Just a comment on this:

    >
    > The Australian cycling program was tainted in the months before Athens
    > by
    > drug-taking allegations and months of being dragged through the mud by
    > police, judicial and customs investigations.
    >
    ...And certain sections of the Aussie media (it appears with a little
    help
    from the AOC) which bought the Mark French story lock, stock and barrel
    without considering that *maybe* he was telling an untruth or two, as
    suggested by the CAS which described French's testimony as
    "implausible".
    The back pedalling on this was incredible.

    Funny thing is, none of the Australian gold medalists were among those
    "named" by French, apart from Graeme Brown...but Brown was not even in
    Adelaide when the alleged "shooting gallery" was holding its AGM!

    Fair enough to come down hard on the guilty parties, but it shouldn't
    taint
    the whole team/sport. It's like saying that a whole firm of lawyers is
    corrupt just because one or two of them are. Perish the thought.

    Jeff

    Perish the thought, indeed.

    I should add, Jeff that partners in a law firm are liable for the
    misdeeds
    of fellow partners--not criminally, but for civil damages.

    Even if one partner didn't know what the other was doing?

    --
    Bob in CT
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  6. "Bob in CT" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    B. Lafferty said:


    "B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "Jeff Jones" <jeff@cyclingnews-punt-com> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    >
    > "B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > news:[email hidden]...
    >
    > <snip>
    >
    > Just a comment on this:
    >
    >>
    >> The Australian cycling program was tainted in the months before Athens
    >> by
    >> drug-taking allegations and months of being dragged through the mud by
    >> police, judicial and customs investigations.
    >>
    > ...And certain sections of the Aussie media (it appears with a little
    > help
    > from the AOC) which bought the Mark French story lock, stock and barrel
    > without considering that *maybe* he was telling an untruth or two, as
    > suggested by the CAS which described French's testimony as
    > "implausible".
    > The back pedalling on this was incredible.
    >
    > Funny thing is, none of the Australian gold medalists were among those
    > "named" by French, apart from Graeme Brown...but Brown was not even in
    > Adelaide when the alleged "shooting gallery" was holding its AGM!
    >
    > Fair enough to come down hard on the guilty parties, but it shouldn't
    > taint
    > the whole team/sport. It's like saying that a whole firm of lawyers is
    > corrupt just because one or two of them are. Perish the thought.
    >
    > Jeff

    Perish the thought, indeed.

    I should add, Jeff that partners in a law firm are liable for the
    misdeeds
    of fellow partners--not criminally, but for civil damages.

    Even if one partner didn't know what the other was doing?

    Generally, yes. Pick your partners well and stay on top of your business.

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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    I should add, Jeff that partners in a law firm are liable for the
    misdeeds
    of fellow partners--not criminally, but for civil damages.

    Even if one partner didn't know what the other was doing?

    Generally, yes. Pick your partners well and stay on top of your business.

    So, that's probably the reason for limited liability partnerships (if they
    happen to have them in your state).

    --
    Bob in CT
    Remove ".x" to reply

  8. "Bob in CT" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    [cut]

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >
    > I should add, Jeff that partners in a law firm are liable for the
    > misdeeds
    > of fellow partners--not criminally, but for civil damages.
    >
    >

    Even if one partner didn't know what the other was doing?

    Generally, yes. Pick your partners well and stay on top of your business.

    So, that's probably the reason for limited liability partnerships (if they
    happen to have them in your state).

    --
    Bob in CT
    Remove ".x" to reply

    My recollection is that LLPs and LLCs are set up that way in an attempt to
    limit the liability of all partners in a general sense. There can be
    limited and general partners within a partnership. The limited partner's
    liability is limited to that partner's capital investment in the
    partnership.

  9. "B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    "I've had four (drug tests) in the past five days," said dual gold


    medallist

    Quoted message said:

    Ryan Bayley at a press conference on Thursday.

    Which we all know means absolutely nothing, How can you not be suspicious of
    the team as a whole, regardless of what Mark French says? Dajka's DNA was
    found on syringes, Eadie had Peptide hormones mailed to him in the past. His
    defense was "anyone could have mailed those to me. I didn't order
    those"...sure...uh huh....

    Dave

  10. In article <[email hidden]>, Dave H

    Quoted message said:

    "B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]..

    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    "I've had four (drug tests) in the past five days," said dual gold


    medallist

    Quoted message said:

    Ryan Bayley at a press conference on Thursday.

    Which we all know means absolutely nothing, How can you not be suspicious of
    the team as a whole, regardless of what Mark French says? Dajka's DNA was
    found on syringes, Eadie had Peptide hormones mailed to him in the past. His
    defense was "anyone could have mailed those to me. I didn't order
    those"...sure...uh huh....

    So he shows no traces during the last 5 days-so what?! Does he think
    we're stupid enough to think that means anything?

    -WG

  11. "warren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, Dave H

    Quoted message said:

    "B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]..

    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    "I've had four (drug tests) in the past five days," said dual gold


    medallist

    Quoted message said:

    Ryan Bayley at a press conference on Thursday.

    Which we all know means absolutely nothing, How can you not be


    suspicious of

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the team as a whole, regardless of what Mark French says? Dajka's DNA


    was

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    found on syringes, Eadie had Peptide hormones mailed to him in the past.


    His

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    defense was "anyone could have mailed those to me. I didn't order
    those"...sure...uh huh....

    So he shows no traces during the last 5 days-so what?! Does he think
    we're stupid enough to think that means anything?

    -WG

    And is it just me or do they all just have bad skin?

    Dave

  12. In article <[email hidden]>, Dave H

    Quoted message said:

    "warren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, Dave H

    Quoted message said:

    "B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]..

    <snip>

    > "I've had four (drug tests) in the past five days," said dual gold
    medallist
    > Ryan Bayley at a press conference on Thursday.

    Which we all know means absolutely nothing, How can you not be


    suspicious of

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the team as a whole, regardless of what Mark French says? Dajka's DNA


    was

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    found on syringes, Eadie had Peptide hormones mailed to him in the past.


    His

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    defense was "anyone could have mailed those to me. I didn't order
    those"...sure...uh huh....

    So he shows no traces during the last 5 days-so what?! Does he think
    we're stupid enough to think that means anything?

    -WG

    And is it just me or do they all just have bad skin?

    That's just a phase, you know, like puberty. Happens to nearly all
    teenagers. Kinda like going bald, or things getting smaller than they
    used to be. You know, normal stuff like that.

    -WG

  13. "B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    "Bob in CT" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    [cut]

    Quoted message said:

    >>
    >> I should add, Jeff that partners in a law firm are liable for the
    >> misdeeds
    >> of fellow partners--not criminally, but for civil damages.
    >
    > Even if one partner didn't know what the other was doing?

    Generally, yes. Pick your partners well and stay on top of your business.

    So, that's probably the reason for limited liability partnerships (if they
    happen to have them in your state).

    --
    Bob in CT
    Remove ".x" to reply

    My recollection is that LLPs and LLCs are set up that way in an attempt to
    limit the liability of all partners in a general sense. There can be
    limited and general partners within a partnership. The limited partner's
    liability is limited to that partner's capital investment in the
    partnership.

    California has more licensed and registerd attorneys that any other
    state
    (over 140,000 active lawyers and 45,000 inactive, plus adding MJPs to
    the roles here where attny's licensed in other states but work in CA a
    lot can appear in state court for many of their cases here)

    CALIF. LAW CORPORATIONS & LIMITED LIABILITY PARTNERSHIPS
    E-Mail Address:
    [email hidden]
    [email hidden]

    By statute and State Bar Rules and Regulations, attorneys can practice
    law in professional law corporations and limited liability
    partnerships (LLPs). Attorneys who wish to practice law as a law
    corporation or a limited liability partnership must be registered with
    the State Bar. Registration requirements include showing corporate
    structure, security for claims and an approved name. Information and
    application forms are available online at calbar.ca.gov.

    Lawyers race and also help sponsor teams.

    -Ken

  14. "Jeff Jones" <jeff@cyclingnews-punt-com> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    Fair enough to come down hard on the guilty parties, but it shouldn't


    taint

    Quoted message said:

    the whole team/sport. It's like saying that a whole firm of lawyers is
    corrupt just because one or two of them are. Perish the thought.

    Think about what you're saying - what if one of the lawyers was Brian?

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