Lance and Lance

Colin Blackburn said:

Has anyone noticed how many olympic athletes are wearing the bright
yellow LIVESTRONG wrist bands? These show support for and a donation
to Lance Armstrong's cancer support trust. El Guerrouj was wearing
one when he took the 1500m gold last night.

I don't understand this one. The bracelets are even on sale at bike shops in
the UK. Why are people from so many countires contributing to what is
essentially a domestic, USAian charity?

Simonb said:

I don't understand this one. The bracelets are even on sale at bike shops in
the UK. Why are people from so many countires contributing to what is
essentially a domestic, USAian charity?

Charities often use prominent figureheads, as people who seek to
identify with the figureheads are more likely to give to the charity.

It strikes me as a bit daft that people will do that, but certainly no
less daft than giving to a charity because someone has, say, sat in a
bathtub full of custard for 24 hours or ridden their bike 100 miles,
rather than they think the cause is worth giving money to anyway.

So bottom line is never mind the lack of sense, it brings the money in.

Pete.
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Simonb said:

I don't understand this one. The bracelets are even on sale at bike
shops in
the UK. Why are people from so many countires contributing to what is
essentially a domestic, USAian charity?

The wearyellow bit of the charity claims to help cancer sufferers
worldwide, though I have yet to see what that actually means. As you say,
the Lance Armstrong Foundation is a predominantly US domestic charity but
some of the research it sponsors into testicular cancer, say, may
eventually help people around the world. On top of that I would guess that
people are wearing them as support for Lance personally, they were
initially pushed as a way of showing support for his Tour attempt this
year. Particularly amongst athletes it may be a way of one athlete showing
their respect for another. Finally, a lot of these wristbands have been
given away so their wearers may not even be contributing to the LAF.

Colin

Simonb <[email hidden]> wrote:

: I don't understand this one. The bracelets are even on sale at bike shops in
: the UK. Why are people from so many countires contributing to what is
: essentially a domestic, USAian charity?

I think that's a little harsh. It funds research (which helps everyone)
and provides a forum (online) for sufferers to get infomation and
communicate. I don't think you have to be US to benift from that.

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Simonb said:

Colin Blackburn said:

Has anyone noticed how many olympic athletes are wearing the bright
yellow LIVESTRONG wrist bands? These show support for and a donation
to Lance Armstrong's cancer support trust. El Guerrouj was wearing
one when he took the 1500m gold last night.

I don't understand this one. The bracelets are even on sale at bike shops in
the UK. Why are people from so many countires contributing to what is
essentially a domestic, USAian charity?

Does it only support sufferers or does it support researchers, too?

So long as the research will be of global effect (which is a reasonable
assumption?) then what's the problem?

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Simonb said:

Colin Blackburn said:

Has anyone noticed how many olympic athletes are wearing the bright
yellow LIVESTRONG wrist bands? These show support for and a donation
to Lance Armstrong's cancer support trust. El Guerrouj was wearing
one when he took the 1500m gold last night.

I don't understand this one. The bracelets are even on sale at bike shops in
the UK. Why are people from so many countires contributing to what is
essentially a domestic, USAian charity?

Does it only support sufferers or does it support researchers, too?

So long as the research will be of global effect (which is a reasonable
assumption?) then what's the problem?

Indeed. After all, the US has always shown itself to be free, open, and
even-handed in allowing other people to use its intellectual property such as
drugs and patents to benefit non-US citizens in the 3rd world.

Next thing you'll tell me digital watches are "a pretty neat idea".
--
Mark South, Super Genius: World Citizen, Net Denizen

In article <[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

Has anyone noticed how many olympic athletes are wearing the bright yellow
LIVESTRONG wrist bands? These show support for and a donation to Lance
Armstrong's cancer support trust. El Guerrouj was wearing one when he took
the 1500m gold last night.

Also, Lance has a cameo role in a new film out this week. It is the
"madcap" comedy Dodge Ball. It sounds [censored], depending on your taste in
comedy of course, but Lance is reportedly quite good.

In accordance with my practice of seeing all [censored] films, I will be
watching Dodge Ball. I suspect that it'll be quite funny but only if you
appreciated Zoolander.

Jon

Colin Blackburn said:

Has anyone noticed how many olympic athletes are wearing the bright
yellow LIVESTRONG wrist bands? These show support for and a donation
to Lance Armstrong's cancer support trust. El Guerrouj was wearing
one when he took the 1500m gold last night.

Ah. THAT'S what they are. I had assumed them to be some sort of ID thing
like wot you get at festivals.

(retires, thick)

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chris harrison said:

Does it only support sufferers or does it support researchers, too?

Yes. In the USA.

Quoted message said:

So long as the research will be of global effect (which is a
reasonable assumption?) then what's the problem?

From http://www.laf.org/about/ :

"The Lance Armstrong Foundation (LAF) believes that in your battle with
cancer, knowledge is power and attitude is everything. Founded in 1997 by
cancer survivor and cycling champion Lance Armstrong, the LAF provides the
practical information and tools people living with cancer need to live
strong. We serve our mission through four core program areas:

Education - The LAF informs cancer patients, health care professionals and
the public about the physical, emotional and practical issues that people
face in their battle with cancer. We provide the information and resources
people need to live strong.

Advocacy - The LAF represents people living with cancer on Capitol Hill. We
are increasing awareness, encouraging the government to take action, and
addressing the health policy concerns of people battling cancer and their
families.

Public Health - The LAF plans, develops and funds programs that provide
after-treatment support and services for people living with cancer and their
families.

Research - The LAF supports scientific and clinical research that seeks to
better understand cancer's physical, emotional and practical effects and the
challenge of living with the disease."

Seems pretty US-specific to me.

Simonb said:

chris harrison said:

Does it only support sufferers or does it support researchers, too?

Yes. In the USA.

Quoted message said:

So long as the research will be of global effect (which is a
reasonable assumption?) then what's the problem?

From http://www.laf.org/about/ :

[...]

Quoted message said:

Research - The LAF supports scientific and clinical research that seeks
to
better understand cancer's physical, emotional and practical effects
and the
challenge of living with the disease."

Seems pretty US-specific to me.

And the above seems like the research to which Chris alluded.

Colin

Mark South said:

"chris harrison" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

So long as the research will be of global effect (which is a reasonable
assumption?) then what's the problem?

Indeed. After all, the US has always shown itself to be free, open, and
even-handed in allowing other people to use its intellectual property such as
drugs and patents to benefit non-US citizens in the 3rd world.

You've never benefitted from US drugs? Ever?

Personally, I see Armstrong as an amazing example of cancer survival and
this foundation has already raised huge amounts of money - and as
importantly raising the profile of cancer charities worldwide. Whether
you support it or not is not important, whether I support it or not is
not important. Whether you see the yellow bands as a gimic or this
year's trendy awareness tag ("red ribbons are so passe darling"😉.

Quoted message said:

Next thing you'll tell me digital watches are "a pretty neat idea".

Well I can't speak for yours, but mine is (with its wireless heart rate
monitor and GPS connections), thanks 🙂

Simonb said:

Seems pretty US-specific to me.

So don't support them.

I have but I'm not going to apologise to you for it.

Colin Blackburn said:

Has anyone noticed how many olympic athletes are wearing the bright yellow
LIVESTRONG wrist bands? These show support for and a donation to Lance
Armstrong's cancer support trust. El Guerrouj was wearing one when he took
the 1500m gold last night.

Also, Lance has a cameo role in a new film out this week. It is the
"madcap" comedy Dodge Ball. It sounds [censored], depending on your taste in
comedy of course, but Lance is reportedly quite good.

His part in DB is actually pretty good! His lines are delivered very
well...

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
says...

Quoted message said:

Colin Blackburn said:

Has anyone noticed how many olympic athletes are wearing the bright yellow
LIVESTRONG wrist bands? These show support for and a donation to Lance
Armstrong's cancer support trust. El Guerrouj was wearing one when he took
the 1500m gold last night.

Also, Lance has a cameo role in a new film out this week. It is the
"madcap" comedy Dodge Ball. It sounds [censored], depending on your taste in
comedy of course, but Lance is reportedly quite good.

His part in DB is actually pretty good! His lines are delivered very
well...

I've been wearing one since I bought it for 1 Euro at the TdF. They are
in short supply now, seems to be that way since Heat magazine run an
article showing Madonna, Pammy Anderson etc. wearing them, saying they
are the latest must have accessory.

They are now fetching £10 to £15 on ebay, now is that right???

Personally I like wearing mine, but get fed up with people asking if
I've been in hospital :-)

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Mark (MSA)
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chris harrison said:

So don't support them.

I don't.

Quoted message said:

I have but I'm not going to apologise to you for it.

I wasn't asking you to.