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  1. Dear NG,

    I just locked my bike yesterday and I got this problem with my
    Combination cable lock (I have no idea what its called in english!)
    The cablelock looks like the one in this website: (also an ABUS product)

    http://www.abus.de/de/main.asp?ScreenLang=de&sid=412960231100320200820041322311162&select=0104b06&artikel=4003318214790#

    I have never had such a lock before, I had one similar to this and my
    friend lost it and bought me this one. He was able to set the code of
    the lock (which I myself do not know.. I am not sure if this is done
    when you buy the lock or it can be done at anytime), exactly like the
    one from my previous combi-lock. When the lock is open there is some
    movable small circle on the cross-section, I do not know if that is
    actually the mechanism that allows you to change the code.

    But anyway. the problem is the following... When I tried to lock the
    lock yesterday, the stick went halfway through and then got stuck. Now
    the combination key was correct and I couldnt move the stick either out
    or more in. This is the first time that this happens to me. My theory
    was that probably by a little moving the code of the combination was
    change as the stick was moving in and it got stuck halfway.. this is a
    bit crazy, but I can´t think of any other reason. I tried to force it
    out, but it was locked halfway through and won´t move out. I really do
    not want to look like a theif trying to still my bike, so I don't want
    to cut the lock (besides it´s a good lock, and besides besides cutting
    it won't be that easy!). If anyone could give me some suggestion on
    comments on how I should proceed on solving this problem, I will much
    appreciate it. Many thanks.

    Sincerely,
    Jose Capco

  2. RE/

    Quoted message said:

    But anyway. the problem is the following.

    Dunno the answer...but here's something else to think about: When you have the
    lock off the bike, do not leave it set at the combination. Over time, the
    numbers will rub up against things and will acquire a certain look/texture
    unique to the combination and almost anybody will be able to look at the lock
    and deduce what the combination is.... So upon locking, give the numbers a
    spin....
    --
    PeteCresswell

  3. RE/

    Quoted message said:

    But anyway. the problem is the following.

    Dunno the answer...but here's something else to think about: When you have the
    lock off the bike, do not leave it set at the combination. Over time, the
    numbers will rub up against things and will acquire a certain look/texture
    unique to the combination and almost anybody will be able to look at the lock
    and deduce what the combination is.... So upon locking, give the numbers a
    spin....
    --
    PeteCresswell

  4. Thanks for the reply. Problem is, the lock won't open even on the right
    combination. It makes me rather feel glad if someone steal it! It's so
    much prone to being robbed because one can easily see that the lock is
    only halfway in. I really must figure out a solution, the only solution
    I can currently think of is either cut the lock off at midnight
    (stealing my own bike :/) or try thousands of numbers a day until I get
    the right combination (in case the combination was changed by some
    mysterious reason.. no one has yet answered me whether these kind of
    lock can change their combination number)... The last solution is the
    best only if I know that the combination really did change.

    I would be much grateful if someone could explain to me the mechanism
    involved in these kind of locks, I would learn many things about it and
    probably be able to apply the right solution and not waste a lot of
    effort on it.

    Sincerely,
    Jose Capco

    (Pete Cresswell) said:

    RE/

    Quoted message said:

    But anyway. the problem is the following.

    Dunno the answer...but here's something else to think about: When you have the
    lock off the bike, do not leave it set at the combination. Over time, the
    numbers will rub up against things and will acquire a certain look/texture
    unique to the combination and almost anybody will be able to look at the lock
    and deduce what the combination is.... So upon locking, give the numbers a
    spin....

  5. "Jose Capco" wrote: (clip)I would be much grateful if someone could explain
    to me the mechanism involved in these kind of locks,(clip)
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    My guess is that your lock is defective--not that the combination has
    somehow been changed. All combination locks I have ever dealt with will
    close and lock if the combination is not set. If fact, if the combination
    is set, the lock pops open--I would expect that if the combination is set
    when you close the lock, it should close easily, but not stay closed.

    Possibly, if you shoot some WD-40 or graphite into the lock you can get it
    working. I would also try tapping on it sharply with a small hammer.

  6. Thanks for the help. I just wanted to give a last update and I want to
    write down the way I solve the problem for future reference!

    Yes, I finally solved this problem. Fortunately I had the right
    impression (sorry Leo, but I was glad that your guess was wrong..
    otherwise I would have been forced to cut that lock or do more work).
    While trying to figure out the problem I discovered a dozen of
    lockpicking and combi-lock cracking manuals in the net. I didn´t have to
    use it, but it was remarkable to me 🙂 ... Apparently from the
    discussions I read in alt.locksmith, they know a lot about bike
    combination locks. I didn't try posting to them though.

    Well the problem developed the following way... as I was trying to lock
    the bike on a post, halfway thru (this incident probably happens once in
    a million) my thumb or something hit the red arcs on the cross-section
    of the lock (those red arcs are indeed used to change the combination
    code of the locks whenever necessary.. first time for me, I am sure most
    people knew this though). While turning the dials the arc was also
    turned, thus allowing to initiate a reset for the combination. At the
    moment that the arcs were fully turned the combination was recorded to
    the one that my dial was set. I naturally didn't know that and was still
    turning the dial to the "right" combination so I can fit in and then
    lock the cable.

    To make the story short, the code was changed while I was locking the
    cable halfway thru. Thus only half of the stick went in the hole where
    the dials turn. Now that is the part that produced my good luck!
    Yesterday, I was pondering on that and tried to first change one or two
    digits of the code from the original. Turns out, that if the cable is
    locked halfway thru, one needs to only know last two digits of the code
    and the rest is not important. So I found the last two digits after less
    than 50 tries. Now there was this minor problem of knowing the rest of
    the digits once I get the lock opened.. but when the lock is opened,
    even not knowing any digit one can figure out the code (just slip the
    stick in the hole and keep turning the last dial to the right dial until
    the stick goes more in for each dial.)

    Thanks again for your comments.

    Sincerely,
    Jose Capco

    Leo Lichtman said:

    "Jose Capco" wrote: (clip)I would be much grateful if someone could explain
    to me the mechanism involved in these kind of locks,(clip)
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    My guess is that your lock is defective--not that the combination has
    somehow been changed. All combination locks I have ever dealt with will
    close and lock if the combination is not set. If fact, if the combination
    is set, the lock pops open--I would expect that if the combination is set
    when you close the lock, it should close easily, but not stay closed.

    Possibly, if you shoot some WD-40 or graphite into the lock you can get it
    working. I would also try tapping on it sharply with a small hammer.

    PS: Leo... could it be that we were talking of different locks? I was
    talking about a cable combination lock.. where you talking of something
    else (Sorry.. I got this impression, because you say that the lock "pops
    open", but my lock never pops open.. one must pull it to open, even when
    the combination is right)

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