Denver, CO ... trails

On 2004-08-19, Slacker penned:

Quoted message said:

Dang it, one of my best friends is moving to
http://www.morehouselessmoney.com/WhatsNew.asp?cid=12&newsid=25

What good (XC) trails are around that area. Man, this is going to be a long
drive...

Do you mean the little sun or the little orange dots?

--
monique

"Get a bicycle. You will not regret it, if you live."
-- Mark Twain

Slacker said:

Dang it, one of my best friends is moving to
http://www.morehouselessmoney.com/WhatsNew.asp?cid=12&newsid=25

What good (XC) trails are around that area. Man, this is going to be a
long drive...

google Jefferson County open space: White Ranch and some others. I'm sure
Monique will chime in soon.

Penny

Slacker <[email hidden]> wrote in news:opscyk1rgsm83lxu@slacker:

Quoted message said:

Dang it, one of my best friends is moving to
http://www.morehouselessmoney.com/WhatsNew.asp?cid=12&newsid=25

What good (XC) trails are around that area. Man, this is going to be a
long drive...

You lucky, lucky bahstid. 🙂

Indian Creek is a nice local 30-mile XC route.

-S.S.-

Monique Y. Mudama said:

On 2004-08-19, Slacker penned:

Quoted message said:

Dang it, one of my best friends is moving to
http://www.morehouselessmoney.com/WhatsNew.asp?cid=12&newsid=25

What good (XC) trails are around that area. Man, this is going to be a
long
drive...

Do you mean the little sun or the little orange dots?

Not positive, but I believe it's the little sun. I don't have the full
address yet. He said it's a 15 drive to downtown Denver, if that helps??I
don't know how big Denver is...

--
Slacker

On 2004-08-19, pas penned:

Quoted message said:

Slacker said:

Dang it, one of my best friends is moving to
http://www.morehouselessmoney.com/WhatsNew.asp?cid=12&newsid=25

What good (XC) trails are around that area. Man, this is going to be a long
drive...

google Jefferson County open space: White Ranch and some others. I'm sure
Monique will chime in soon.

It's a bit south of my usual stomping grounds; I tend toward Boulder and
Lyons, just because they're closer to my house. Slacker, how long of a drive
do you consider "around that area"?

Tom Dillon does trails closer to Denver, though, I believe.

--
monique

"Get a bicycle. You will not regret it, if you live."
-- Mark Twain

"Monique Y. Mudama" <[email hidden]> wrote in
news:[email hidden]:

Quoted message said:

On 2004-08-19, pas penned:

Quoted message said:

Slacker said:

Dang it, one of my best friends is moving to
http://www.morehouselessmoney.com/WhatsNew.asp?cid=12&newsid=25

What good (XC) trails are around that area. Man, this is going to be
a long drive...

google Jefferson County open space: White Ranch and some others. I'm
sure Monique will chime in soon.

It's a bit south of my usual stomping grounds; I tend toward Boulder
and Lyons, just because they're closer to my house. Slacker, how long
of a drive do you consider "around that area"?

Here is a list of things within ~20 minutes of downtown Denver (not
comprehensive):

White Ranch, Green Mountain, Chimney Gulch, Apex, Matthew Winters, Red
Rocks, Dakota Ridge, Bear Creek Lake, Mt. Falcon, Deer Creek, South Valley,
Waterton Canyon, Indian Creek.... what did I forget....??

-S.S.-

Monique Y. Mudama said:

On 2004-08-19, pas penned:

Quoted message said:

Slacker said:

Dang it, one of my best friends is moving to
http://www.morehouselessmoney.com/WhatsNew.asp?cid=12&newsid=25

What good (XC) trails are around that area. Man, this is going to bea
long
drive...

google Jefferson County open space: White Ranch and some others. I'm
sure
Monique will chime in soon.

It's a bit south of my usual stomping grounds; I tend toward Boulder and
Lyons, just because they're closer to my house. Slacker, how long of a
drive
do you consider "around that area"?

Within 45 min., or less.

--
Slacker

Monique sez:

Quoted message said:

Tom Dillon does trails closer to Denver, though, I believe.

Yep, there're quite a few trails in the area. Skared Shoeless mentioned
some of the good ones. I'd advise your friend to get the Falcon Guide
for the Denver Boulder area. It's available from Amazon or any local
bike store. It's also worth looking at the Trails section of
http://www.mtbr.com/.

Being in Denver makes it quick to get to Fruita and Moab too. And
Slacker, now you have a good jumping off point to some good pretty nice
riding. Where are you, and he, located now?

--
T o m Dillon
Lakewood, CO
Z to S to email

On 2004-08-19, SkaredShtles penned:

Quoted message said:

Here is a list of things within ~20 minutes of downtown Denver (not
comprehensive):

White Ranch, Green Mountain, Chimney Gulch, Apex, Matthew Winters, Red
Rocks, Dakota Ridge, Bear Creek Lake, Mt. Falcon, Deer Creek, South Valley,
Waterton Canyon, Indian Creek.... what did I forget....??

That's 20 minutes assuming no hockey, football, etc. games are about to
start and it's not rush hour, right?

--
monique

"Get a bicycle. You will not regret it, if you live."
-- Mark Twain

Monique Y. Mudama said:

On 2004-08-19, SkaredShtles penned:

Quoted message said:

Here is a list of things within ~20 minutes of downtown Denver (not
comprehensive):

White Ranch, Green Mountain, Chimney Gulch, Apex, Matthew Winters,
Red Rocks, Dakota Ridge, Bear Creek Lake, Mt. Falcon, Deer Creek,
South Valley, Waterton Canyon, Indian Creek.... what did I
forget....??

That's 20 minutes assuming no hockey, football, etc. games are about
to start and it's not rush hour, right?

Way too much city going on down there for this country boy!
Of course I do get stuck in the occasional cattle drive...

Matt

On 2004-08-19, MattB penned:

Quoted message said:

Monique Y. Mudama said:

On 2004-08-19, SkaredShtles penned:

Quoted message said:

Here is a list of things within ~20 minutes of downtown Denver (not
comprehensive):

White Ranch, Green Mountain, Chimney Gulch, Apex, Matthew Winters, Red
Rocks, Dakota Ridge, Bear Creek Lake, Mt. Falcon, Deer Creek, South
Valley, Waterton Canyon, Indian Creek.... what did I forget....??

That's 20 minutes assuming no hockey, football, etc. games are about to
start and it's not rush hour, right?

Way too much city going on down there for this country boy! Of course I do
get stuck in the occasional cattle drive...

Er ... are you serious?

Yeah, I would hate living in a city. I just don't get it. As it is, I
complain about the traffic between Boulder and Longmont ... but that's nothing
compared to when I lived in northern VA and had a commute that was "45 minutes
to two and a half hours, with no way to tell which it will be and no useful
alternate routes." Gross!

--
monique

"Get a bicycle. You will not regret it, if you live."
-- Mark Twain

Monique Y. Mudama wrote:
the occasional cattle drive...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Er ... are you serious?

Yeah, I would hate living in a city. I just don't get it. As it is,
I complain about the traffic between Boulder and Longmont ... but
that's nothing compared to when I lived in northern VA and had a
commute that was "45 minutes to two and a half hours, with no way to
tell which it will be and no useful alternate routes." Gross!

Longmont -Boulder-Denver = Major Metropolitan Area. Isn't that a city? When
I lived in Golden way back when, it was all on the verge of running together
into sprawl, like 20 years ago. It hasn't yet?

penny

Monique Y. Mudama said:

On 2004-08-19, SkaredShtles penned:

Quoted message said:

Here is a list of things within ~20 minutes of downtown Denver (not
comprehensive):

White Ranch, Green Mountain, Chimney Gulch, Apex, Matthew Winters, Red
Rocks, Dakota Ridge, Bear Creek Lake, Mt. Falcon, Deer Creek, South Valley,
Waterton Canyon, Indian Creek.... what did I forget....??

That's 20 minutes assuming no hockey, football, etc. games are about to
start and it's not rush hour, right?

I was back to the front range a few weeks ago, when isn't it rush hour?

--
Craig Brossman, Durango Colorado
remove "mydebt" to reply

pas said:

Monique Y. Mudama wrote:
the occasional cattle drive...

Quoted message said:

Er ... are you serious?

Yeah, I would hate living in a city. I just don't get it. As it is,
I complain about the traffic between Boulder and Longmont ... but
that's nothing compared to when I lived in northern VA and had a
commute that was "45 minutes to two and a half hours, with no way to
tell which it will be and no useful alternate routes." Gross!

Longmont -Boulder-Denver = Major Metropolitan Area. Isn't that a city? When
I lived in Golden way back when, it was all on the verge of running together
into sprawl, like 20 years ago. It hasn't yet?

penny

She's in the city, maybe not NYC, but compared to the other 80% of
Colorful Colorado, it is the city.

--
Craig Brossman, Durango Colorado
remove "mydebt" to reply

pas said:

Monique Y. Mudama wrote:
the occasional cattle drive...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Er ... are you serious?

Yes, but there aren't many drives between and my daily trails (< 5 Miles
from the house). Mostly it's the trails I hit on weekends (20-30 Miles
away), like Crested Butte. I have had to work my way through a cattle drive
on my road bike, which sucked. I'd categorize it as [censored]. Literally.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Yeah, I would hate living in a city. I just don't get it. As it is,
I complain about the traffic between Boulder and Longmont ... but
that's nothing compared to when I lived in northern VA and had a
commute that was "45 minutes to two and a half hours, with no way to
tell which it will be and no useful alternate routes." Gross!

Longmont -Boulder-Denver = Major Metropolitan Area. Isn't that a
city? When I lived in Golden way back when, it was all on the verge
of running together into sprawl, like 20 years ago. It hasn't yet?

penny

By my definition it has, but what do I know? I haven't been a city boy since
I moved away from the Detroit area in '89 and I rarely miss it. I do miss
some of it (good live music nearby, foreign films, funky cuisine, and art
museums) but not dealing with the traffic and crime generally makes up for
it and I can always take a road trip.

Matt

pas said:

Monique Y. Mudama wrote:
the occasional cattle drive...

Quoted message said:

Er ... are you serious?

Yeah, I would hate living in a city. I just don't get it. As it is,
I complain about the traffic between Boulder and Longmont ... but
that's nothing compared to when I lived in northern VA and had a
commute that was "45 minutes to two and a half hours, with no way to
tell which it will be and no useful alternate routes." Gross!

Longmont -Boulder-Denver = Major Metropolitan Area. Isn't that a city? When
I lived in Golden way back when, it was all on the verge of running together
into sprawl, like 20 years ago. It hasn't yet?

There's still a bit of open space gap between Denver metro and Longmont.
The open space around Boulder is mostly the result of the city buying
or annexing and zoning land as strictly open space (i.e. farming and
park space). Looks nice, but is part of the cause of Boulder's
outrageous real estate market.

Shawn

On 2004-08-19, pas penned:

Quoted message said:

Monique Y. Mudama wrote: the occasional cattle drive...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Er ... are you serious?

Yeah, I would hate living in a city. I just don't get it. As it is, I
complain about the traffic between Boulder and Longmont ... but that's
nothing compared to when I lived in northern VA and had a commute that was
"45 minutes to two and a half hours, with no way to tell which it will be
and no useful alternate routes." Gross!

Longmont -Boulder-Denver = Major Metropolitan Area. Isn't that a city? When
I lived in Golden way back when, it was all on the verge of running together
into sprawl, like 20 years ago. It hasn't yet?

It's all a matter of perspective. When talking to someone from the DC area, I
would never refer to the stuff around here as "traffic."

While I considered myself to live in the "DC area" while in Manassas, I don't
consider myself to live in the "Denver area" in Longmont, or even Boulder.
Distances might be similar, but the time and stress involved in travelling
through them is not. Also, to me, "living in the city" bears a very specific
image -- apartments, city blocks, being able to walk to
groceries/shopping/restaurants and above all, noise! That's different from
suburban sprawl.

--
monique

"Get a bicycle. You will not regret it, if you live."
-- Mark Twain

Monique Y. Mudama said:

On 2004-08-19, pas penned:

Quoted message said:

Monique Y. Mudama wrote: the occasional cattle drive...

Quoted message said:

Er ... are you serious?

Yeah, I would hate living in a city. I just don't get it. As it is, I
complain about the traffic between Boulder and Longmont ... but that's
nothing compared to when I lived in northern VA and had a commute that was
"45 minutes to two and a half hours, with no way to tell which it will be
and no useful alternate routes." Gross!

Longmont -Boulder-Denver = Major Metropolitan Area. Isn't that a city? When
I lived in Golden way back when, it was all on the verge of running together
into sprawl, like 20 years ago. It hasn't yet?

It's all a matter of perspective. When talking to someone from the DC area, I
would never refer to the stuff around here as "traffic."

While I considered myself to live in the "DC area" while in Manassas, I don't
consider myself to live in the "Denver area" in Longmont, or even Boulder.
Distances might be similar, but the time and stress involved in travelling
through them is not. Also, to me, "living in the city" bears a very specific
image -- apartments, city blocks, being able to walk to
groceries/shopping/restaurants and above all, noise! That's different from
suburban sprawl.

Ya gotta have lots and lots of traffic too, otherwise you describe where
I live. I have all of those (including movie and live theater), two
bike shops, art galleries, antiques yada yada within a few blocks.
We don't have traffic though. I've heard the heavy traffic in Salida
described as "Rush Minute".
;-)
Like you said, its all perspective.

Shawn

On 2004-08-19, scurry penned:

Quoted message said:

Monique Y. Mudama said:

While I considered myself to live in the "DC area" while in Manassas, I
don't consider myself to live in the "Denver area" in Longmont, or even
Boulder. Distances might be similar, but the time and stress involved in
travelling through them is not. Also, to me, "living in the city" bears a
very specific image -- apartments, city blocks, being able to walk to
groceries/shopping/restaurants and above all, noise! That's different from
suburban sprawl.

Ya gotta have lots and lots of traffic too, otherwise you describe where I
live. I have all of those (including movie and live theater), two bike
shops, art galleries, antiques yada yada within a few blocks. We don't have
traffic though. I've heard the heavy traffic in Salida described as "Rush
Minute". ;-) Like you said, its all perspective.

What about the noise? Do you have the noise? (Probably related to the
traffic.)

Maybe I haven't done a good job of describing what "city life" means to me --
after all, I haven't ever lived "in the city" -- but I know it when I see it,
and I don't want it!

--
monique

"Get a bicycle. You will not regret it, if you live."
-- Mark Twain