I'm wondering if I need to replace my now ageing lightweight, or if its behaviour is forgivable. I got quite soggy yesterday, even through the coat, and even a day in the company cloak room didn't dry my clothes out. Its breathable though, and I expect it can't breath very well when its outer surface is completely drenched.
It was fun riding in, and playing in the puddles (my shoes are still wet, as we have no heating on in the house to dry things out at this time of year) but not so practical for getting home at the end of the day when your clothes are still wet from the morning.
- Richard
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It was fun riding in, and playing in the puddles (my shoes are still wet,
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we have no heating on in the house to dry things out at this time of year) but not so practical for getting home at the end of the day when your clothes are still wet from the morning.
Lucky I have a wee electric radiator in work to solve those little problems for me. 🙂
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I'm wondering if I need to replace my now ageing lightweight, or if its behaviour is forgivable. I got quite soggy yesterday, even through the coat, and even a day in the company cloak room didn't dry my clothes out. Its breathable though, and I expect it can't breath very well when its
outer
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surface is completely drenched.
It was fun riding in, and playing in the puddles (my shoes are still wet,
as
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we have no heating on in the house to dry things out at this time of year) but not so practical for getting home at the end of the day when your clothes are still wet from the morning.
Yesterday was very humid. Are you sure the water came in from outside -- or were you suffering from 'boil in the bag' syndrome?
This time of year the rain is reasonably warm so 100% waterproofness is not, IMO, necessary.
I'm wondering if I need to replace my now ageing lightweight, or if its behaviour is forgivable. I got quite soggy yesterday, even through the coat, and even a day in the company cloak room didn't dry my clothes out. Its breathable though, and I expect it can't breath very well when its outer surface is completely drenched.
It was fun riding in, and playing in the puddles (my shoes are still wet, as we have no heating on in the house to dry things out at this time of year) but not so practical for getting home at the end of the day when your clothes are still wet from the morning.
- Richard
The best waterproofs I have ever had are only waterproof to a point. Believe me, you don't want to be riding a bike in something that is totally waterproof in August. If it is less waterproof than it used to be, you can always wash it in Nikwax - this stuff is absolutely superb. Ignore what it says on the bottle - you can treat loads of clothes in a sinkful of the solution. It costs about £5 a bottle in outdoorsy type shops. Hope this helps.
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I'm wondering if I need to replace my now ageing lightweight, or if its behaviour is forgivable. I got quite soggy yesterday, even through the coat, and even a day in the company cloak room didn't dry my clothes out. Its breathable though, and I expect it can't breath very well when its outer surface is completely drenched.
Which is your problem... Breathable fabrics (of the Goretex and relatives variety) only work if the surface water runs off.
So, you need to re-establish the water run-off. If you can get it, the last issue (not current) of TGO magazine, it has an excellent article on the subject. In summary, you need to wash your jacket in soap flakes (NOT detergents, be careful to get pure soap flakes), then rinse several times, then apply a surface treatment to re-establish the water run-off. Try a good outdoor shop for suitable treatment; probably something from the Graingers or Nik-wax ranges. With some fabrics (including Goretex) a period in a warm tumble drier also assists/reactivates the surface treatment.
Then it might work again.
- Nigel
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If it is less waterproof than it used to be, you can always wash it in Nikwax - this stuff is absolutely superb. Ignore what it says on the bottle - you can treat loads of clothes in a sinkful of the solution.
Totally agree .. awesome stuff, Nikwax. Also good for tents, awnings, shed roofs (I kid you not), Landrover canvas soft-tops and all amnner of stuff .. 😉
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Firstly, wash it in some Nikwax Tec Wash (I think that's the name of the washing stuff Nikwax do... and then you leave the item in the washing machine & re-run the wash cycle, but this time with the Nikwax re-proofer for breathable waterproofs. It works quite brilliantly. If that doesn't give your waterproof a new lease of life then you do need a new one.
I've used the Nikwax stuff for years and swear by it.
Cheers, helen s
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I'm using a Carradice cape around town on a Brompton. What happened to capes? Are they desperately uncool?
They're still available. But they're also a bit dodgy in wind and completely hopeless off the bike. Since I use my Bropmton as a hack for local errands I'll be on and off it a bit on a typical journey.
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I'm wondering if I need to replace my now ageing lightweight, [...]
I'm using a Carradice cape around town on a Brompton. What happened to capes? Are they desperately uncool?
I've been wondering about that. A cycle cape and overboots used to be the perfect solution to rain on a bicycle unless it was very windy. But they seem to have vanished.
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I've been wondering about that. A cycle cape and overboots used to be the perfect solution to rain on a bicycle unless it was very windy. But they seem to have vanished.
Carradice still make a cycle cape. The CTC shop sell it, I doubt they're the only ones.
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I've been wondering about that. A cycle cape and overboots used to be the perfect solution to rain on a bicycle unless it was very windy. But they seem to have vanished.
Carradice still make a cycle cape. The CTC shop sell it, I doubt they're the only ones.
I'm wondering if I need to replace my now ageing lightweight, or if its behaviour is forgivable. I got quite soggy yesterday, even through the coat, and even a day in the company cloak room didn't dry my clothes out. Its breathable though, and I expect it can't breath very well when its outer surface is completely drenched.
It was fun riding in, and playing in the puddles (my shoes are still wet, as we have no heating on in the house to dry things out at this time of year) but not so practical for getting home at the end of the day when your clothes are still wet from the morning.
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You can buy stuff that is completely waterproof - but you don't want to cycle in that because it's too hot and your sweat can't escape.
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Stuff like Goretex is pretty good when new, but performace degrades over time. Washing and re-proofing every so often helps.
Even then, you van easily out-sweat most 'breathable' waterproofs, especially in this weather. The tech spec is given in litres/square metres/24 hours on some labels. Given most jackets are less than 2 m^2 and most sweat will be thrown in their direction, you might reckon on getting wet...
Stuff like Goretex is pretty good when new, but performace degrades over time. Washing and re-proofing every so often helps.
Goretex stays about the same, but the face fabric it's laminated too will affect overall garment performance. The Goretex membrane itself is waterproof and will remain so bar being physically punctured because the holes that let the vapour out are too small to let liquid water pass.
The face fabric, usually some sort of nylon but sometimes polyester, is not intrinsically waterproof like the membrane. It's this layer that you re-proof with some goop that causes water to bead up on the surface rather than soak into the weave. If water does soak into the weave then it forms a layer of liquid water up against the membrane that it's very difficult to push water vapour through, so the fabric will stop "breathing" where the face layer has "wet out". But it still shouldn't leak. To test if it's leaking, put a suspect area as a bowl liner and fill it with water, and see if any seeps through over time.
Pete. -- Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/
I'm wondering if I need to replace my now ageing lightweight, or if its behaviour is forgivable. I got quite soggy yesterday, even through the coat, and even a day in the company cloak room didn't dry my clothes out. Its breathable though, and I expect it can't breath very well when its outer surface is completely drenched.
It was fun riding in, and playing in the puddles (my shoes are still wet, as we have no heating on in the house to dry things out at this time of year) but not so practical for getting home at the end of the day when your clothes are still wet from the morning.
You can buy stuff that is completely waterproof - but you don't want to cycle in that because it's too hot and your sweat can't escape.
Stuff like Goretex is pretty good when new, but performace degrades over time. Washing and re-proofing every so often helps.
Stuff like Goretex is pretty good when new, but performace degrades over time. Washing and re-proofing every so often helps.
Goretex stays about the same, but the face fabric it's laminated too will affect overall garment performance. The Goretex membrane itself is waterproof and will remain so bar being physically punctured because the holes that let the vapour out are too small to let liquid water pass.
Not if you allow salt water to dry on it, because the salt crystals stretch the holes.
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On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 06:12:54 +0100, Richard Corfield wrote (in article <[email hidden]>😉:
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I'm wondering if I need to replace my now ageing lightweight, [...]
I'm using a Carradice cape around town on a Brompton. What happened to capes? Are they desperately uncool?
I've been wondering about that. A cycle cape and overboots used to be the perfect solution to rain on a bicycle unless it was very windy. But they seem to have vanished.
People will start buying them again as soon as Gortex capes become available. -- "As for the hexamine stove. OW! Burnt fingers again!..... and the bloody thing's gone out.....OW! no it hasn't." - Judith in uk.rec.walking
Tip for drying wet shoes: Stuff them with crumpled-up newspaper ... will wick-out water ... change paper after an hour or two for more wicking. Your shoes will dry *much* faster, probably ready for the ride home after work!
Rob.
Richard Corfield said:
I'm wondering if I need to replace my now ageing lightweight, or if its behaviour is forgivable. I got quite soggy yesterday, even through the coat, and even a day in the company cloak room didn't dry my clothes out. Its breathable though, and I expect it can't breath very well when its outer surface is completely drenched.
It was fun riding in, and playing in the puddles (my shoes are still wet, as we have no heating on in the house to dry things out at this time of year) but not so practical for getting home at the end of the day when your clothes are still wet from the morning.
- Richard
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I'm wondering if I need to replace my now ageing lightweight, or if its behaviour is forgivable. I got quite soggy yesterday, even through the coat, and even a day in the company cloak room didn't dry my clothes out. Its breathable though, and I expect it can't breath very well when its outer surface is completely drenched.
It was fun riding in, and playing in the puddles (my shoes are still wet, as we have no heating on in the house to dry things out at this time of year) but not so practical for getting home at the end of the day when your clothes are still wet from the morning.
- Richard
-- _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ Richard dot Corfield at ntlworld dot com _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/ Time is a one way street, _/ _/ _/_/ _/_/_/ Except in the Twilight Zone.
how long is a piece of string ? I´ve seen watch that are said to be safe for 50 mts depth that I wouldn´t take in the shower - same goes for waterproofs . Used to work out in the open and the choice was always dry and really sweaty or damp from the rain . Goretex is great but expensive and you´ll get sweaty , windstopper will stop you drowning in your own sweat but yuo will get wet . Dry feet ? maybe , dry hands ? forget it .
