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  1. Will the hundreds of daily Lance asslicking posts ever stop in order to let
    this newsgroup go back to talk about real cycling?
    Since Sunday only a dozen of posts about the Hamburg race and maybe one
    thousand of Armstrong and USPS gossip.

  2. Davide Tosi said:

    Will the hundreds of daily Lance asslicking posts ever stop in order to let
    this newsgroup go back to talk about real cycling?
    Since Sunday only a dozen of posts about the Hamburg race and maybe one
    thousand of Armstrong and USPS gossip.

    There's been quite a few on the New Zealand missile industry.

  3. "Davide Tosi" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Will the hundreds of daily Lance asslicking posts ever stop in order to


    let

    Quoted message said:

    this newsgroup go back to talk about real cycling?
    Since Sunday only a dozen of posts about the Hamburg race and maybe one
    thousand of Armstrong and USPS gossip.


    For those who saw the race or post race interviews - 3 stars get away on the
    last time up the hill. Cyclingnews (Jeff) reports that they aren't working
    that well together and they eventually end up with a group of 25ish for the
    sprint. Did Bettini et al look strong enough to hold off the rest if they
    put in a concerted effort or was the chasing group too strong (Ullrich,
    Zabel, O'Grady, etc.)?

    Will Bettini, Astarloa etc. learn anything from this as the Athens course
    might lead to a similar situation where some true sprinters might get back
    on just in time to contest the sprint if Bettini et al (for example)
    hesitate to work after gettinga gap on the last lap?

    What's the latest on the Italian line up (Bettini, Paolini, Pozzato, ?, ?)?
    -MIke

  4. Stewart Fleming said:


    There's been quite a few on the New Zealand missile industry.

    I was sorry to hear that he was being investigated. I learnt a lot about
    valveless pulsejets and homemade jet-powered go karts from his site.

  5. Mike Owens schreef:

    Quoted message said:


    For those who saw the race or post race interviews - 3 stars get away on the
    last time up the hill. Cyclingnews (Jeff) reports that they aren't working
    that well together and they eventually end up with a group of 25ish for the
    sprint. Did Bettini et al look strong enough to hold off the rest if they
    put in a concerted effort or was the chasing group too strong (Ullrich,
    Zabel, O'Grady, etc.)?

    I watched with one eye as I was preparing the evening meal.
    The large group didnt form at once.
    After the climb first a group with about 10 riders formed (with Ullrich, Merckx,
    Gilbert, Bossoni and some others) joining the 3.
    Gilbert and Bossoni were away for a while. In that phase Ullrich did some strong
    pulls chasing.
    Then Merckx went off for some kms but never got more than 80 meters while
    everyone behind was just looking at each other, just Bossoni doing some pulls
    for Astarloa. When they caught Merckx there still wasn't much going on and then
    all of a sudden with a few kms to go a flock with O'Grady joined. The television
    coverage had been clumsy, there was never information whether a group was coming
    or who had worked there or whatever.

  6. Van Hoorebeeck Bart said:

    The television coverage had been clumsy,
    there was never information whether a group was coming or who had
    worked there or whatever.

    The camera work was terrible but part of that, I think, was that the roads
    were narrow so the motocams couldn't go back and forth, and the trees kept
    the helicopter from giving overview shots of what was happening behind the
    lead group.

  7. [email hidden] (Davide Tosi) wrote>...

    Quoted message said:

    Will the hundreds of daily Lance asslicking posts ever stop in order to let
    this newsgroup go back to talk about real cycling?
    Since Sunday only a dozen of posts about the Hamburg race and maybe one
    thousand of Armstrong and USPS gossip.

    Typically of the ten World Cup races, HEW gets the smallest and fewest
    mentions in RBR. Check it out.

    San Sebastien will get triple the RBR press than HEW garnered.

    And you? You just went on a long diatribe about Italian women -- check
    out the mirror bro! What did that have to do with real cycling?

    -Ken

  8. Davide Tosi said:
    Quoted message said:

    Will the hundreds of daily Lance asslicking posts ever stop in order to let
    this newsgroup go back to talk about real cycling?
    Since Sunday only a dozen of posts about the Hamburg race and maybe one
    thousand of Armstrong and USPS gossip.

    K. J. Papai said:

    And you? You just went on a long diatribe about Italian women -- check
    out the mirror bro! What did that have to do with real cycling?

    I must have rather odd sexual preferences but I prefer Italian women to
    LANCE.

  9. "Donald Munro" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    K. J. Papai said:

    And you? You just went on a long diatribe about Italian women -- check
    out the mirror bro! What did that have to do with real cycling?

    I must have rather odd sexual preferences but I prefer Italian women to
    LANCE.


    Ok, talk about take your mind off the tour...
    after the Lance interview the 10 most desired sports diva's aired.
    The RBR room was just rented for 3-weeks, give the HC-racers back their room
    and the
    Rednecks back OLN before they find a cyclist who squeals like a pig.
    -tom

  10. "K. J. Papai" <[email hidden]> schreef >

    Quoted message said:

    And you? You just went on a long diatribe about Italian women --

    That was damm informative and well done.

    check

    Quoted message said:

    out the mirror bro! What did that have to do with real cycling?

    WHAT DO YOUR POSTINGS HAVE TO DO WITH REAL CYCLING.

    check out -> your<- mirror:
    1. Lancification
    2. "that's not me!"
    3. clueless attacks on other posters and whimpy netcopping.

  11. K. J. Papai said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    And you? You just went on a long diatribe about Italian women -- check
    out the mirror bro! What did that have to do with real cycling?

    Donald Munro said:
    Quoted message said:

    I must have rather odd sexual preferences but I prefer Italian women to
    LANCE.

    Tom Nakashima said:

    Ok, talk about take your mind off the tour...
    after the Lance interview the 10 most desired sports diva's aired.
    The RBR room was just rented for 3-weeks, give the HC-racers back their room
    and the
    Rednecks back OLN before they find a cyclist who squeals like a pig.

    I recently saw a short feature (on BBC World I think) on an Italian Woman
    Volleyball player - definitely decidedly hot, I wonder if I could persuade
    her to shave my legs as well.

  12. "Davide Tosi" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Will the hundreds of daily Lance asslicking posts ever stop in order to


    let

    Quoted message said:

    this newsgroup go back to talk about real cycling?
    Since Sunday only a dozen of posts about the Hamburg race and maybe one
    thousand of Armstrong and USPS gossip.


    But I've been watching the Volta Portugal..
    ;-)
    Dan Gregory

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    Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
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  13. Mike Owens said:

    "Davide Tosi" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Will the hundreds of daily Lance asslicking posts ever stop in order to


    let

    Quoted message said:

    this newsgroup go back to talk about real cycling?
    Since Sunday only a dozen of posts about the Hamburg race and maybe one
    thousand of Armstrong and USPS gossip.


    For those who saw the race or post race interviews - 3 stars get away on the
    last time up the hill. Cyclingnews (Jeff) reports that they aren't working
    that well together and they eventually end up with a group of 25ish for the
    sprint. Did Bettini et al look strong enough to hold off the rest if they
    put in a concerted effort or was the chasing group too strong (Ullrich,
    Zabel, O'Grady, etc.)?

    Will Bettini, Astarloa etc. learn anything from this as the Athens course
    might lead to a similar situation where some true sprinters might get back
    on just in time to contest the sprint if Bettini et al (for example)
    hesitate to work after gettinga gap on the last lap?

    I think the real factor for what happened were Ullrich and Gontchar.
    After the last time on the Waseberg, the leading trio
    (Bettini/Astarloa/Rebellin) had only a few seconds lead on other 7 riders,
    including the two above. Even working on perfect harmony, the leaders
    couldn't have kept off Ullrich and Gontchar pulling like they were
    possessed.
    Once the group of ten was formed, obviously too many had no interest in
    working. Ullrich, Gontchar, Merckx, they all knew that taking the 3 early
    leaders and Freire (who was in the group of 10 too) to the finish line,
    they would have had no chances even of a podium spot.
    So der Jan basically sat drafting and looking often behind for Zabel, who
    he obviously knew was not far back. Gontchar and Merckx started to look
    more for alone breakaways (which both tried too early). Until the other 15
    got back in with about 4 to go there was noone really working.
    With the way the group of 10 was composed they were doomed to get caught by
    the O'Grady group.
    I think the real mistake made by Gerolsteiner, Lampre and Quickstep was
    that people like Paolini, Hondo, Barbero worked too much before the last
    Waseberg climb. IMHO they should have tried to stay with their captains on
    the top of the last climb in order to work harder thereafter and keep the
    leading group off the reach of the pure sprinters.

    Quoted message said:

    What's the latest on the Italian line up (Bettini, Paolini, Pozzato, ?, ?)?

    Bartoli withdrew because he's off shape.
    So the present line-up is Bettini, Moreni, Nardello, Paolini, Pozzato.
    There's still a lot of mistery about the real reasons for Rebellin not
    being named.

  14. Donald Munro said:
    K. J. Papai said:
    Quoted message said:

    > And you? You just went on a long diatribe about Italian women -- check
    > out the mirror bro! What did that have to do with real cycling?

    Donald Munro said:
    Quoted message said:

    I must have rather odd sexual preferences but I prefer Italian women to
    LANCE.

    Tom Nakashima said:

    Ok, talk about take your mind off the tour...
    after the Lance interview the 10 most desired sports diva's aired.
    The RBR room was just rented for 3-weeks, give the HC-racers back their room
    and the
    Rednecks back OLN before they find a cyclist who squeals like a pig.

    I recently saw a short feature (on BBC World I think) on an Italian Woman
    Volleyball player - definitely decidedly hot, I wonder if I could persuade
    her to shave my legs as well.

    The wonderful Francesca Piccinini, I suppose.

  15. "Bart Van Hoorebeeck" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    "K. J. Papai" <[email hidden]> schreef >

    Quoted message said:

    And you? You just went on a long diatribe about Italian women --

    That was damm informative and well done.

    check

    Quoted message said:

    out the mirror bro! What did that have to do with real cycling?

    WHAT DO YOUR POSTINGS HAVE TO DO WITH REAL CYCLING.

    What a stupid thing to write.

    Quoted message said:

    check out -> your<- mirror:
    1. Lancification

    Grow up Bart. What do you mean by that anyway?

    Quoted message said:

    2. "that's not me!"

    WTF?

    Quoted message said:

    3. clueless attacks on other posters and whimpy netcopping.

    I am taking over for JT who quit being the net cop.
    Posting politics in RBR sucks. I suppose you would rather sit on the
    sidelines and allow all sorts of [censored] ehh?

    -Ken

  16. Davide Tosi said:

    Will the hundreds of daily Lance asslicking posts ever stop in order
    to let this newsgroup go back to talk about real cycling?
    Since Sunday only a dozen of posts about the Hamburg race and maybe
    one thousand of Armstrong and USPS gossip.

    Hopefully never. RBR has never been, and never will be about 'real
    cycling'.

    Regards,
    H.

  17. Robert Chung said:
    Stewart Fleming said:

    There's been quite a few on the New Zealand missile industry.

    I was sorry to hear that he was being investigated. I learnt a lot about
    valveless pulsejets and homemade jet-powered go karts from his site.

    Those damn Kiwi's are getting ahead of everyone, technology-wise!

    http://www.asciimation.co.nz/beer/

  18. Richard Adams said:
    Robert Chung said:
    Stewart Fleming said:

    There's been quite a few on the New Zealand missile industry.

    I was sorry to hear that he was being investigated. I learnt a lot about
    valveless pulsejets and homemade jet-powered go karts from his site.

    Those damn Kiwi's are getting ahead of everyone, technology-wise!

    http://www.asciimation.co.nz/beer/

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2004/aug04/nyccc04/?id=b85f8479

  19. Richard Adams said:
    Robert Chung said:
    Stewart Fleming said:

    There's been quite a few on the New Zealand missile industry.

    I was sorry to hear that he was being investigated. I learnt a lot about
    valveless pulsejets and homemade jet-powered go karts from his site.

    Those damn Kiwi's are getting ahead of everyone, technology-wise!

    http://www.asciimation.co.nz/beer/


    Americans still rule with bio technology:

    http://home.pacbell.net/bettychu/2003allbreedbisris/BIS.html

    (sorry, totally offtopic, but ...)

  20. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Stewart Fleming said:
    Richard Adams said:
    Robert Chung said:

    Stewart Fleming wrote:

    > There's been quite a few on the New Zealand missile industry.

    I was sorry to hear that he was being investigated. I learnt a lot about
    valveless pulsejets and homemade jet-powered go karts from his site.

    Those damn Kiwi's are getting ahead of everyone, technology-wise!

    http://www.asciimation.co.nz/beer/

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2004/aug04/nyccc04/?id=b85f8479

    Good result there. I notice the foot-loose Dominguez still sprinting
    with his hands on the hoods.

    --
    tanx,
    Howard

    So far, so good, so what?

    remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

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