Litespeed Ultimate vs Vortex

downhill-<< 🙄 Trying to find out info as to which bike is a better buy
(6ft4" about 150lbs) ride about 250 miles (350km) a week >><BR><BR>

Moots..............

Peter Chisholm
Vecchio's Bicicletteria
1833 Pearl St.
Boulder, CO, 80302
(303)440-3535
http://www.vecchios.com
"Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"

Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

downhill-<< 🙄 Trying to find out info as to which bike is a better buy
(6ft4" about 150lbs) ride about 250 miles (350km) a week >><BR><BR>

Moots..............

Seven.

Dave Stallard said:

Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

downhill-<< 🙄 Trying to find out info as to which bike is a
better buy
(6ft4" about 150lbs) ride about 250 miles (350km) a week >><BR><BR>

Moots..............

Seven.

by several hundred $$$.

"kwalters" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:410b23ca$0$212

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Seven.

by several hundred $$$.

Seven Axiom custom frame $2695.00

Litespeed Ultimate off the rack frame $3290.00

Litespeed Vortex off the rack frame $3350.00

Where do people get the idea that Seven is SO expensive compared to
Litespeed?

Tim McTeague

Habanero. However, after all the time he devoted to politics I don't
know if the quality of his product has stayed the same.

Andres

[email hidden] (Qui si parla Campagnolo ) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

downhill-<< 🙄 Trying to find out info as to which bike is a better buy
(6ft4" about 150lbs) ride about 250 miles (350km) a week >><BR><BR>

Moots..............

Peter Chisholm
Vecchio's Bicicletteria
1833 Pearl St.
Boulder, CO, 80302
(303)440-3535
http://www.vecchios.com
"Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"

Tim McTeague said:

Seven Axiom custom frame $2695.00

Litespeed Ultimate off the rack frame $3290.00

Litespeed Vortex off the rack frame $3350.00

Where do people get the idea that Seven is SO expensive compared to
Litespeed?

Serotta is more expensive than Seven too. To wit:

Complete Seven road-frame price list:

Model Tubing Frame
Elium Cirrus TC™ Ultra-butted Ti and carbon fiber $3,595
Alta Cirrus™ Ultra-butted Titanium $3,295
Odonata Argen TC™ Butted Ti and carbon fiber $3,195
Axiom Argen™ Butted titanium $2,695
Alaris Integrity325™ Straight-gauge titanium $1,995
Elium steel Origin SC™ Butted steel and carbon fiber $2,295
Axiom steel Origin™ Butted steel $1,495

Partial Serotta road-frame price list:

Ottrott ST: $4995
Ottrott: $4595
Legend ST: $3695
Legend: $3295

Compare Legend/Legend ST to Axiom/Odonata.

Dave

Tim-<< Seven Axiom custom frame $2695.00

Litespeed Ultimate off the rack frame $3290.00

Litespeed Vortex off the rack frame $3350.00

Where do people get the idea that Seven is SO expensive compared to
Litespeed?

Moots Vamoots-$2245-best of the lot IMO.

Peter Chisholm
Vecchio's Bicicletteria
1833 Pearl St.
Boulder, CO, 80302
(303)440-3535
http://www.vecchios.com
"Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"

"Qui si parla Campagnolo " <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Moots Vamoots-$2245-best of the lot IMO.

Peter Chisholm

But isn't that a straight gauge frame? If so, the Seven version, Alaris, is
$1995. A better deal yet. Also, I don't think the Vamoots is custom at
that price but I may be wrong. Also, also, aren't you a Moots dealer? Hmm.

Tim McTeague

In article <[email hidden]>,

(andres muro) said:

Habanero. However, after all the time he devoted to politics I don't
know if the quality of his product has stayed the same.

Andres

Just tell Mark you are a died in the wool ³publican.²....🙂

Quoted message said:

[email hidden] (Qui si parla Campagnolo ) wrote in message
news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

downhill-<< 🙄 Trying to find out info as to which bike is a better
buy
(6ft4" about 150lbs) ride about 250 miles (350km) a week >><BR><BR>

Moots..............

Peter Chisholm
Vecchio's Bicicletteria

Is it one Moots two Mootseses??

--
³Freedom Is a Light for Which Many Have Died in Darkness³

- Tomb of the unknown - American Revolution

"H. M. Leary" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Is it one Moots two Mootseses??

No, two meets.

On 1 Aug 2004 15:07:50 -0700, [email hidden] (andres

muro) said:

"H. M. Leary" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Is it one Moots two Mootseses??

No, two meets.

Dear Sirs,

Zoo check enclosed as per your latest catalogue.

Please ship me two mongee--

Please ship me two mongoo--

Please ship me a mongoose.

Thanks,

Carl Fogel

P.S. Come to think of it, ship me another.

[email hidden] wrote in message
<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Dear Sirs,

Zoo check enclosed as per your latest catalogue.

Please ship me two mongee--

Please ship me two mongoo--

Please ship me a mongoose.

Thanks,

Carl Fogel

P.S. Come to think of it, ship me another.

pl mongooses

TJ

Trevor Jeffrey said:

[email hidden] wrote in message
<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Dear Sirs,

Zoo check enclosed as per your latest catalogue.

Please ship me two mongee--

Please ship me two mongoo--

Please ship me a mongoose.

Thanks,

Carl Fogel

P.S. Come to think of it, ship me another.

pl mongooses

TJ

Dear Trevor,

True, Dravidian words for animals do not use internal vowel
gradation to form plurals, which distinguishes them from our
few surviving Old English words for animals and anatomy,
such as man/men, woman/women (double), mouse/mice,
goose/geese, tooth/teeth, and foot/feet.

This internal vowel gradation should not be confused with
such pluralizations as knife/knives, life/lives, or
wife/wives, which involve voicing of consonants.

Nor should it be confused with the even rarer ox/oxen,
child/children pluralizations, which involve an otherwise
lost suffix and an excrescent -r.

Pedantically,

Carl Fogel

[email hidden] wrote in message ...

Quoted message said:

On Mon, 2 Aug 2004 01:18:48 +0100, "Trevor Jeffrey"

Dear Trevor,

True, Dravidian words for animals do not use internal vowel
gradation to form plurals, which distinguishes them from our
few surviving Old English words for animals and anatomy,
such as man/men, woman/women (double), mouse/mice,
goose/geese, tooth/teeth, and foot/feet.

This internal vowel gradation should not be confused with
such pluralizations as knife/knives, life/lives, or
wife/wives, which involve voicing of consonants.

Nor should it be confused with the even rarer ox/oxen,
child/children pluralizations, which involve an otherwise
lost suffix and an excrescent -r.

Pedantically,

Carl Fogel

I know a mongoose is Indian, and the word is English, with reference to a
dictionary of 2000 vintage the plural is mongooses. Just spotted "," after
True, I see you are agreeing. 'Ave thou nowt better t'do?
TJ
adjust screen contrast TJ

andres-<< Is it one Moots two Mootseses?? >><BR><BR>

Mootsie

Peter Chisholm
Vecchio's Bicicletteria
1833 Pearl St.
Boulder, CO, 80302
(303)440-3535
http://www.vecchios.com
"Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"

Tim-<< But isn't that a straight gauge frame? >><BR><BR>

Moots are good enough welders to use thin walled ti and not burn it. Double
butting for ti is mostly marketing and to prevent welders from killing it.

Custom Moots, add $350.

And yep, we sell lots of Moots, the only ti we sell.

Peter Chisholm
Vecchio's Bicicletteria
1833 Pearl St.
Boulder, CO, 80302
(303)440-3535
http://www.vecchios.com
"Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"

You're thinking of Mark Hickey.

Peter has political opinions but he is generally more restrained about
expressing them here than Mr. Hickey.

And he has little to do with Habanero.

App

[email hidden] (Appkiller) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

You're thinking of Mark Hickey.

Peter has political opinions but he is generally more restrained about
expressing them here than Mr. Hickey.

And he has little to do with Habanero.

App

App:

I know who Peter and Mark are: Peter was recommending Moots, and I
added that a possible candidate for good Ti was Habanero. However, I
questioned the quality since Mark had spent so much time involved in
politics. I know that Peter has political views too.

Andres

(andres muro) said:

[email hidden] (Appkiller) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

You're thinking of Mark Hickey.

Peter has political opinions but he is generally more restrained about
expressing them here than Mr. Hickey.

And he has little to do with Habanero.

Heh.

Quoted message said:

App:

I know who Peter and Mark are: Peter was recommending Moots, and I
added that a possible candidate for good Ti was Habanero. However, I
questioned the quality since Mark had spent so much time involved in
politics.

Hey, we all have hobbies... luckily I type fast and read faster, and
don't need a lot of sleep. It might be different if I was actually
the guy welding the frames - but I wouldn't be crazy enough to ride a
frame I welded.

Mark Hickey
Habanero Cycles
http://www.habcycles.com
Home of the $695 ti frame