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  1. Dunno if this was addressed before, but I can no longer find _any_ cycling
    schedule on OLN's site for future coverage, I know it was there before.
    Could someone post the link please?

    Thanks,

    Chet

  2. "Chester Kuhn" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Dunno if this was addressed before, but I can no longer find _any_


    cycling

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    schedule on OLN's site for future coverage, I know it was there


    before.

    Quoted message said:

    Could someone post the link please?

    Thanks,

    Chet


    They've ripped us all off and OLN has cancelled all cycling related
    shows/races for the remainder of the year, until the next event that
    Lance participates in.

    Jiyang

  3. Jiyang Chen said:

    "Chester Kuhn" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Dunno if this was addressed before, but I can no longer find _any_


    cycling

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    schedule on OLN's site for future coverage, I know it was there


    before.

    Quoted message said:

    Could someone post the link please?

    Thanks,

    Chet


    They've ripped us all off and OLN has cancelled all cycling related
    shows/races for the remainder of the year, until the next event that
    Lance participates in.

    Jiyang

    I dunno. OLCC (Kanuk OLN version) is right now thumping out 3.5 hours of
    coverage of stage 20.

    There must be a shortage of Mud-Wrestling and Fishing footage today

    🙂


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    They've ripped us all off and OLN has cancelled all cycling related
    shows/races for the remainder of the year, until the next event that
    Lance participates in.

    Jiyang

    After they paid Al Trautwig's fee there wasn't any money left over to
    cover any more races until 2005.

  5. "Chester Kuhn" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Dunno if this was addressed before, but I can no longer find _any_ cycling
    schedule on OLN's site for future coverage, I know it was there before.
    Could someone post the link please?

    Thanks,

    Chet

    Sorry if this has already been discussed, but is this the first sign of
    changes of the bicycling schedule at OLN because of Discovery Channel
    picking up the title sponsorship of Postal?

  6. Callistus Valerius said:
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    They've ripped us all off and OLN has cancelled all cycling related
    shows/races for the remainder of the year, until the next event that
    Lance participates in.

    Jiyang

    After they paid Al Trautwig's fee there wasn't any money left over to
    cover any more races until 2005.

    The reality probably is that they couldn't line up the sponsors. Maybe
    the told some of them, it's the TdF or nothin'.

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    The reality probably is that they couldn't line up the sponsors. Maybe
    the told some of them, it's the TdF or nothin'.

    I understand the fishing coverage, since fishing is the most popular
    sport in America. But bullriding?

  8. Chester Kuhn said:

    Dunno if this was addressed before, but I can no longer find _any_ cycling
    schedule on OLN's site for future coverage, I know it was there before.
    Could someone post the link please?

    Thanks,

    Chet


    I wonder if the Discovery Channel has had something to do with this?
    Some arcane detail in their contract with LA et al?

    Jack
    Tucson, AZ

  9. Callistus Valerius said:
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    The reality probably is that they couldn't line up the sponsors. Maybe
    the told some of them, it's the TdF or nothin'.

    I understand the fishing coverage, since fishing is the most popular
    sport in America. But bullriding?

    A few years ago you could have suggested an idea of putting a bunch of
    schmucks on an island (not Gilligan's) and have them kick out out of
    their tribe each week and make 'em eat worms and stuff and people would
    tell you you were mad and it wouldn't work.

    Fishing is best when it involves 'fish stories' (When I was a kid I put
    a clam on a #4 hook on 30lb line and tossed it into the Tittabawasee
    River. Something bit and went up and down the river in front of me
    while my line tangled up and I fought a very determined battle with the
    line wrapped around my hands. After hearing the line sing through a few
    passes, and I thought I'd be dragged into the river, the line went limp
    and I retrieved a bent hook. I think it must have been the legendary 4
    foot carp known as Atomic Bob)

    Bullriding? Have you seen it? I almost hate to say it, but they've
    struck gold. People can't drag their eyes from it. Aminal rights
    groups must be livid.

  10. Richard Adams said:

    Fishing is best when it involves 'fish stories' (When I was a kid I put
    a clam on a #4 hook on 30lb line and tossed it into the Tittabawasee
    River. Something bit and went up and down the river in front of me
    while my line tangled up and I fought a very determined battle with the
    line wrapped around my hands. After hearing the line sing through a few
    passes, and I thought I'd be dragged into the river, the line went limp
    and I retrieved a bent hook. I think it must have been the legendary 4
    foot carp known as Atomic Bob)

    Did something similar at Willard Bay many years ago. Saw the fish
    splashing near the rocks on the shoreline, and wondered what I'd do with
    it when I landed it. Then the lure came flashing by my head, with a
    straightened hook.

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    a fruitless hunt for a securely entrenched dictator and condemning
    them to fight in what would be an unwinnable urban guerilla war, it
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    The reality probably is that they couldn't line up the sponsors. Maybe
    the told some of them, it's the TdF or nothin'.

    I understand the fishing coverage, since fishing is the most popular
    sport in America. But bullriding?

    Yes. Air time get's filled by cheaper sports when sponsors can't be found
    for the more expensive sports. Cycling is tough because it is relatively
    expensive when you consider how popular it is in the US. The owners of the
    rights to broadcast have to establish value by shutting out those that can't
    pay what they feel is a minimum. They do this in the hope that the pain of
    missing it will increase the chances of finding the funds the next year. For
    all you know it is a totally reasonable decision made by OLNTV. What if you
    found out that the rights for the Vuelta broadcast in the US were something
    like 80% of the cost of the Tour? The truth is you have no idea what
    happened and whether it was a rational decision. It is not your style to
    even think about what might have happened. Just whine like a baby.

  12. "Chris" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    What if you

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    found out that the rights for the Vuelta broadcast in the US were


    something

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    like 80% of the cost of the Tour? The truth is you have no idea what
    happened and whether it was a rational decision. It is not your style


    to

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    even think about what might have happened. Just whine like a baby.


    Interesting that they decided to broadcast the Vuelta live when
    everyone's at work. I'm sure they'll get more audience when they
    broadcast it in the evening.

  13. "Jiyang Chen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "Chris" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    What if you

    Quoted message said:

    found out that the rights for the Vuelta broadcast in the US were


    something

    Quoted message said:

    like 80% of the cost of the Tour? The truth is you have no idea what
    happened and whether it was a rational decision. It is not your style


    to

    Quoted message said:

    even think about what might have happened. Just whine like a baby.


    Interesting that they decided to broadcast the Vuelta live when
    everyone's at work. I'm sure they'll get more audience when they
    broadcast it in the evening.

    You have to remember that any change that creates more opportunity for
    revenue will also increase the cost. It is about margin. No profit margin,
    no broadcast. Still, I think if they have the Giro and the Tour, there is
    something to be said for taking a small hit on the Vuelta for the sake of
    maintaining the position as the only network that brings every GT to their
    audience. I think that has some value beyond the P&L for the event but it is
    not my decision and I don't know any details. I trust that OLN is doing the
    best they can while looking out for their owners and investors interests
    short term and long term.

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