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  1. My friend has a bike whose wheels are of the captioned specification. 38mm
    equates to 1.496 inches.

    Was going though my computer user manual and found a conversion table
    (included below). None of these seems to equate to the size of the tyres.
    Does anyone know what mm setting I should program into the computer? Or
    should I try to measure the circumference manually (using a drop of oil or
    whatever on the tyre)?

    Any thoughts appreciated. Thank you.

    Glm
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    ERTRO Wheel size diameter (inches) Wheel size setting (mm)

    30-559 26x1.25 1953

    35-559 26x1.5 1985

    44-559 26x1.75 2030

    47-559 26x1.95 2050

    26x1 1/8 Tubular 1970

    650-20C 1952

    622-20 700x20C 2086

    622-23 700x23C 2096

    622-25 700x25C 2105

    700C Tubular 2130

    28 (700 B) 2237

  2. Those figures are the rolling circumference in millimetres.
    You can measure it yourself.

    Sit on bike with inflation pressure you are going to use.
    Put valve at marked spot on ground. Roll forward in a dead straight line
    (along some line) until valve is again at ground. Mark spot. Measure
    difference with a measuring tape. In mm = your figure.

  3. "Gearóid Ó Laoi/Garry Lee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Those figures are the rolling circumference in millimetres.
    You can measure it yourself.

    Thank you.,

    Understood. Just not sure how much faith I had in my measuring ability (or,
    for that matter, to roll the wheel in a perfectly straight line).

  4. I wouldn't worry too much about the accuracy of the initial messurement.
    Even a very accurate *one turn of the wheel*, will not be accurate out on
    the road anyway. I suggest you put approximate figures in the computer
    to start with, and make the adjustment based on messurements over long
    distances out on the road. Ride your bike on a road with milestone or
    km-stone markings and watch the deviation develop. Remember the deviation
    from a long distance - say 5 - 7 - 10 km - and when you come home you make a
    calculation to adjust your computer. Next time on the road you check the
    deviation again. In that way you will get a very precise and *realistic*
    messurement of how many turns of the wheel it takes to bring you a given
    distance down the road - riding in a not quite straight line.

    Cheers
    Ivar

    "Glm" <[email hidden]> skrev i en meddelelse
    news:Y5mOc.12095$zf3.4802@trndny03...

    Quoted message said:

    "Gearóid Ó Laoi/Garry Lee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Those figures are the rolling circumference in millimetres.
    You can measure it yourself.

    Thank you.,

    Understood. Just not sure how much faith I had in my measuring ability


    (or,

    Quoted message said:

    for that matter, to roll the wheel in a perfectly straight line).

  5. "Glm" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:4dlOc.6384$FZ5.567@trndny07...

    Quoted message said:

    My friend has a bike whose wheels are of the captioned specification.


    38mm

    Quoted message said:

    equates to 1.496 inches.

    Was going though my computer user manual and found a conversion table
    (included below). None of these seems to equate to the size of the tyres.
    Does anyone know what mm setting I should program into the computer? Or
    should I try to measure the circumference manually (using a drop of oil or
    whatever on the tyre)?

    Roll out about five revolutions, measure and divide. It will be very close.
    And certainly more accurate than you can do with measuring just one.
    Bill

    Quoted message said:


    Any thoughts appreciated. Thank you.

    Glm
    --------
    ERTRO Wheel size diameter (inches) Wheel size setting (mm)

    30-559 26x1.25 1953

    35-559 26x1.5 1985

    44-559 26x1.75 2030

    47-559 26x1.95 2050

    26x1 1/8 Tubular 1970

    650-20C 1952

    622-20 700x20C 2086

    622-23 700x23C 2096

    622-25 700x25C 2105

    700C Tubular 2130

    28 (700 B) 2237

  6. You can do a rollout. But if your lazy like me and being within 1% is close enough, just do a little math. Since tire height is approximately the same as tire width...

    circumference ~= (bead_diameter + 2*tire_width)*pi

    (622mm + 2*38mm)*3.1416 = 2193mm

    For best results, measure tire width instead of using the printed size. They are sometimes off by a few mm.

    To get even closer, subtract 2mm from the calculation.

  7. Gonzo Bob said:


    To get even closer, subtract 2mm from the calculation.

    Thanks to all of you for the suggestions.

    Glm

  8. Bill said:

    Roll out about five revolutions, measure and divide. It will be very close.
    And certainly more accurate than you can do with measuring just one.
    Bill


    Absolutely. I was shopping for pants last week. I had the tailor wrap his
    measuring tape about five times around my waist, measure and divide.
    I have never had pants fit so well!

    Seriously though, did you just now make this garbage up? How did you
    determine your method is "certainly more accurate" than traditional
    methods used to measure objects less mysterious than bicycle wheels?
    Anyways, it sure sounds like BS to me.

  9. Glm said:

    My friend has a bike whose wheels are of the captioned specification. 38mm
    equates to 1.496 inches.

    Was going though my computer user manual and found a conversion table
    (included below). None of these seems to equate to the size of the tyres.
    Does anyone know what mm setting I should program into the computer? Or
    should I try to measure the circumference manually (using a drop of oil or
    whatever on the tyre)?

    Any thoughts appreciated. Thank you.

    I'm showing a 700x38c as being 2170 from Nashbar and 2180 from Vetta.
    Taken from two different computer charts.
    --Don--
    The beatings will continue until morale improves.

  10. http://www.geocities.com/czcorner/tech17.html

    'Nuff said :-3)

    - -

    "May you have the wind at your back.
    And a really low gear for the hills!"

    Chris Zacho ~ "Your Friendly Neighborhood Wheelman"

    Chris'Z Corner
    http://www.geocities.com/czcorner

  11. On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 17:14:56 GMT, Don Wagner <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    I'm showing a 700x38c as being 2170 from Nashbar and 2180 from Vetta.
    Taken from two different computer charts.
    --Don--
    The beatings will continue until morale improves.

    Don

    Thank you. Would it be awfully inconvenient if I ask you what mm length
    is implied by 700x35c? Seems that although the specs for his bike show
    700x38c, the shop actually fitted 35c. (They put Shimano 23c on my
    Roubaix, although U believe the standard is Specialized 25c.)

    If it's too much trouble, don't worry about it.

  12. (Chris Zacho 'The Wheelman') said:

    http://www.geocities.com/czcorner/tech17.html

    'Nuff said :-3)

    Well, that is one way to set up a bike computer, and the basic method
    outlined on the site is sound, but the author of that page does not
    understand measurement very well, which leads to some silly statements.
    The last paragraph, in particular, is nonsense. Perhaps googling for
    "significant digits" would be a good place to start if one wished to
    fix this.

  13. Glm said:

    Thank you. Would it be awfully inconvenient if I ask you what mm length
    is implied by 700x35c? Seems that although the specs for his bike show
    700x38c, the shop actually fitted 35c. (They put Shimano 23c on my
    Roubaix, although U believe the standard is Specialized 25c.)

    If it's too much trouble, don't worry about it.

    Sure thing...
    The Vetta chart is showing 2168 for the 700x35c.

    Remember, this is the quick and dirty solution to the problem. Other
    folks have given excellent formula for much more precise calcs.
    --Don--
    The beatings will continue until morale improves.

  14. Quoted message said:
    Glm said:

    Thank you. Would it be awfully inconvenient if I ask you what mm length

    Quoted message said:

    is implied by 700x35c? Seems that although the specs for his bike show

    Quoted message said:

    700x38c, the shop actually fitted 35c. (They put Shimano 23c on my
    Roubaix, although U believe the standard is Specialized 25c.)

    Why not just measure it? You've got the wheels right there. Measurement by
    Usenet is seldom as effective as direct measurement of the item in question.
    Phil Brown

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