Sean Eadie "in jeopardy"...

More here:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2004/jul04/jul12news3a

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http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/07/12/1089484284414.html?oneclick=true

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"A customs interception of banned tablets five years ago led to a
doping infraction notice, served today against Olympic team member
Eadie"

"the AOC last Friday announced it was withholding Dajka's Athens
nomination because of the police investigation"

5 years ago.. WTF?!

The AOC wants heads rolling on platters. They've been embarassed too close
to Athens. If Eadie is even slightly guilty (you know what I mean) he's
history.

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hippy said:

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/07/12/1089484284414.html?one-
click=true
"A customs interception of banned tablets five years ago led to a doping
infraction notice, served today against Olympic team member Eadie"
"the AOC last Friday announced it was withholding Dajka's Athens
nomination because of the police investigation"
5 years ago.. WTF?!
hippy Not good.. not good at all..

Let's just assume they're all guilty, then we can swap the prize from
who gets over the line first, to who gets away without being caught
the longest.

I was a race mechanic a couple of times, and the riders who retired to
their rooms early "for their Vitamin B injections nudge-nudge, wink-
wink" were not to be disturbed at any cost. One soigneur was physically
threatened when he got his team's room wrong and the other team had
forgotten to lock the door. He backed out hurriedly when he realised,
but couldn't help noticing little eskys full of ice, and bottles of what
didn't look like Vitamin suppliments, and way too much injecting gear
for simple old vitamins. And this was just at pissant little races in
the country. Go figure.

M"Bike tech, not human tech"H

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hippy said:

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/07/12/1089484284414.html?one-
click=true
"A customs interception of banned tablets five years ago led to a doping
infraction notice, served today against Olympic team member Eadie"
"the AOC last Friday announced it was withholding Dajka's Athens
nomination because of the police investigation"
5 years ago.. WTF?!
hippy Not good.. not good at all..

This is such a non-event. How will they pin anything on him? The
evidence was destroyed, there's appears to be no proof that he received
the notification from Customs, he will just plead ignorance to any
knowledge of the whole thing, and there's not a lot that can be done.

IMO, this is just a beat up to appease the IOC or whoever is on the
phone saying that they want someone's head on a plate.

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Originally posted by mfhor He backed out hurriedly when he realised,
but couldn't help >noticing little eskys full of ice, and bottles of
what didn't look like >Vitamin suppliments, and way too much injecting
gear for simple >old vitamins. And this was just at pissant little
races in the >country. Go figure.

So any time I lose a race I can just assume the other rider was on drugs
and start playing scrabble or something? Grr..

hippy lawn bowlers are the biggest druggies.. 😉

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hippy said:

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Originally posted by mfhor He backed out hurriedly when he realised,
but couldn't help >noticing little eskys full of ice, and bottles of
what didn't look like >Vitamin suppliments, and way too much injecting
gear for simple >old vitamins. And this was just at pissant little
races in the >country. Go figure.

So any time I lose a race I can just assume the other rider was on drugs
and start playing scrabble or something? Grr..

hippy lawn bowlers are the biggest druggies.. 😉

I have no idea who or what to believe. If someone like Eadie is a drug
cheat then it really is a huge kick in the nuts for our sport.

I want the cheats caught as much as the next person but it must be
proven beyond all reasonable doubt that the person is a cheat.

Can we say 100% that Eadie ordered the banned substances? What's to stop
someone else, who may have a grievance of some kind, ordering something
that is banned and then having it sent to that persons home etc? Yes,
the chances of something like that hapening are small....but it could be
done. The innocent party would, more than likely, be marked for life as
a cheat even if there was little other proof. Doesn't really matter now
that the seed of doubt has been been planted.

It seems abit far fetched I know but there will always be people who
want vengeance etc. Just look at the Ice skater who had someone attack a
rival so she wouldn't beat her in the Olympic selection trials. Makes
you think doesn't it.

I hope that Eadie is innocent but if he is a cheat then I hope he gets
whats coming to him. Regardless of the outcome it's done nothing but
tarnish the sport of cycling further.

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Can we say 100% that Eadie ordered the banned substances? What's to

stop

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someone else, who may have a grievance of some kind, ordering

something

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that is banned and then having it sent to that persons home etc? Yes,
the chances of something like that hapening are small....but it could

be

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done. The innocent party would, more than likely, be marked for life

as

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a cheat even if there was little other proof. Doesn't really matter

now

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that the seed of doubt has been been planted.

I believe the AOC or WADA or whoever is doing the
investigating has to prove that it was Eadie who ordered
and paid for the gear and that he was intending to bring
it into the country.

Did anyone else see the ABC's report on this last night?

I really liked Eadie too.. he was quite a character. He's
clean in my mind until proven otherwise, but with cycling
I'm pretty sceptical most of the time.. ai ai ai.. hmmf

hippy

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I believe the AOC or WADA or whoever is doing the
investigating has to prove that it was Eadie who ordered
and paid for the gear and that he was intending to bring
it into the country.

Did anyone else see the ABC's report on this last night?

I really liked Eadie too.. he was quite a character. He's
clean in my mind until proven otherwise, but with cycling
I'm pretty sceptical most of the time.. ai ai ai.. hmmf

hippy

I sure hope this doesn't turn into a witch hunt. Because I get the
impression that some one will have to be the sacrificial lamb to the
slaughter whether they are guilty or not.

I'm with you Hippy. Sean Eadie is innocent until he is proven guilty.
It's unfortunate that there'll no doubt be a percentage of people who'll
think the opposite and that he's guilty until proven innocent.

In the end it won't really matter...as this was probably Eadie's last
throw of the olympic dice.

If u go by the way the media presents it
They are guilty until they prove themselves innocent....judge & jury....
Guilty especially 60 Minutes....
On one program they showed a arm being injected with a tie above the elbow
as a heroin user would ....very distorted
and if they dont comment or show then the media highlights that as if they
have something to hide......

Feel sorry for Eadie who I beleive is a kindy teacher ...could possibly
loose his career out of this

b

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BG said:

If u go by the way the media presents it
They are guilty until they prove themselves innocent....judge & jury....
Guilty especially 60 Minutes....
On one program they showed a arm being injected with a tie above the elbow
as a heroin user would ....very distorted
and if they dont comment or show then the media highlights that as if they
have something to hide......

Feel sorry for Eadie who I beleive is a kindy teacher ...could possibly
loose his career out of this

b

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If he's guilty then he deserves to.
M

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On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 16:43:55 +0800, "BG" <[email hidden]>

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If u go by the way the media presents it
They are guilty until they prove themselves innocent....judge &
jury.... Guilty especially 60 Minutes....
On one program they showed a arm being injected with a tie above the
elbow as a heroin user would ....very distorted
and if they dont comment or show then the media highlights that as if
they have something to hide......

Feel sorry for Eadie who I beleive is a kindy teacher ...could
possibly loose his career out of this

If he's guilty then he deserves to.
M

For taking perdormance-enhancing drugs someone should lose their civilian
career? Thanks for that posting from the twin planets of Drug War Insanity
and Witch Hunts R Us.

Bulletin from planet earth: in terms of meaningful social harm and
significance, drug-taking in sport ranks somewhere between doing 5km/h over
the speed limit and littering.

mfhor <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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... bottles of what
didn't look like Vitamin suppliments, and way too much injecting gear
for simple old vitamins.

Can somebody please explain to me why injecting vitamins is okay, but
injecting distilled horse [censored] (or whatever this stuff is) is wrong?

fs

Fakhina Sohl said:

mfhor <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

... bottles of what
didn't look like Vitamin suppliments, and way too much injecting gear
for simple old vitamins.

Can somebody please explain to me why injecting vitamins is okay, but
injecting distilled horse [censored] (or whatever this stuff is) is wrong?

fs

Hi,

Well, vitamins aren't illegal.

Cheers

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mfhor <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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... bottles of what
didn't look like Vitamin suppliments, and way too much injecting gear
for simple old vitamins.

Can somebody please explain to me why injecting vitamins is okay, but
injecting distilled horse [censored] (or whatever this stuff is) is wrong?

You need vitamins and minerals to be healthy. Endurance athletes expend
them so fast that they cannot replenish them solely through eating so they
inject them. Lance Armstrong talks about it in one of his books.

Equine Growth Hormone is an illegal and dangerous drug not intended for use
by humans.

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... bottles of what
didn't look like Vitamin suppliments, and way too much injecting gear
for simple old vitamins.

Can somebody please explain to me why injecting vitamins is okay, but
injecting distilled horse [censored] (or whatever this stuff is) is wrong?

You need vitamins and minerals to be healthy. Endurance athletes expend
them so fast that they cannot replenish them solely through eating so they
inject them. Lance Armstrong talks about it in one of his books.

Equine Growth Hormone is an illegal and dangerous drug not intended for

use

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by humans.

Wow. You must be a Dr? Stop wasting your life lurking in Usenet. Perhaps
you could set up a stall in a public place and people could come and ask
"the great wise one" any question they like.

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mfhor <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> ... bottles of what
> didn't look like Vitamin suppliments, and way too much injecting
> gear for simple old vitamins.

Can somebody please explain to me why injecting vitamins is okay,
but injecting distilled horse [censored] (or whatever this stuff is) is
wrong?

You need vitamins and minerals to be healthy. Endurance athletes
expend them so fast that they cannot replenish them solely through
eating so they inject them. Lance Armstrong talks about it in one
of his books.

Equine Growth Hormone is an illegal and dangerous drug not intended
for use by humans.

Wow. You must be a Dr? Stop wasting your life lurking in Usenet.
Perhaps you could set up a stall in a public place and people could
come and ask "the great wise one" any question they like.

Have you got a better answer, [censored]? I thought not. You're only here to
[censored] on everybody else's parade.

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mfhor <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> ... bottles of what
> didn't look like Vitamin suppliments, and way too much injecting gear
> for simple old vitamins.

Can somebody please explain to me why injecting vitamins is okay, but
injecting distilled horse [censored] (or whatever this stuff is) is wrong?

You need vitamins and minerals to be healthy. Endurance athletes expend
them so fast that they cannot replenish them solely through eating so they
inject them. Lance Armstrong talks about it in one of his books.

Equine Growth Hormone is an illegal and dangerous drug not intended for

use

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by humans.

Wow. You must be a Dr? Stop wasting your life lurking in Usenet. Perhaps
you could set up a stall in a public place and people could come and ask
"the great wise one" any question they like.

Ummm, actually DRS had a valid point. The big hint should be "Equine"
Growth Hormone. Now it might be just me but I don't find the thought of
taking drugs aimed at a different species particularly appealing, given
that different species = different genes = different proteins, enzymes =
different response to drugs.

T

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DRS said:

You need vitamins and minerals to be healthy.

Right.

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Endurance athletes expend
them so fast that they cannot replenish them solely through eating so they
inject them.

Nonsense.

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Lance Armstrong talks about it in one of his books.

I couldn't find the part where he listed his qualifications as a
nutritionist.

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In article <[email hidden]>,

DRS said:

You need vitamins and minerals to be healthy.

Right.

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Endurance athletes expend
them so fast that they cannot replenish them solely through eating
so they inject them.

Nonsense.

Is it then? So why do so many endurance athletes, especially cyclists,
inject vitamins?

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Lance Armstrong talks about it in one of his books.

I couldn't find the part where he listed his qualifications as a
nutritionist.

He's surrounded by doctors and nutritionists. What are your qualifications?

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