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  1. Hi,

    I wanted to know if the real father of Armstrong is hide, I mean if Lance
    has finally found him, and if Lance believe in religion ?

  2. "velo bleu" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Hi,

    I wanted to know if the real father of Armstrong is hide, I mean if Lance
    has finally found him, and if Lance believe in religion ?

    The real father is hide, and he does not believe in religion (to use your
    terms).

  3. According to his book, he did not know his father. His father left them
    when Lance was very young. He has very little in organized religion.
    Probably has something to do with his stepfather being a Christian
    fundamentalist who beat him often when he was young.

    I don't know if the book is available in French but if it is, I recommend
    it--it offers good insight and inspiration. Your English seems very good,
    perhaps you could suffer through it in English.

    Cheers!

    "velo bleu" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Hi,

    I wanted to know if the real father of Armstrong is hide, I mean if Lance
    has finally found him, and if Lance believe in religion ?

  4. I bought his first book in paperback last year, I really liked him but as
    Lance wrote it 2 or 3 years ago I was wondering if he found his father
    after that time.

    Le Sun, 25 Jul 2004 22:53:47 GMT, ie a écrit :

    Quoted message said:

    According to his book, he did not know his father. His father left them
    when Lance was very young. He has very little in organized religion.
    Probably has something to do with his stepfather being a Christian
    fundamentalist who beat him often when he was young.

    I don't know if the book is available in French but if it is, I recommend
    it--it offers good insight and inspiration. Your English seems very good,
    perhaps you could suffer through it in English.

    Cheers!

    "velo bleu" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi,

    I wanted to know if the real father of Armstrong is hide, I mean if Lance
    has finally found him, and if Lance believe in religion ?

  5. from an earlier post:

    "Ronde Champ" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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    Gunderson said he later learned Lance was in Plano and saw him on TV by
    accident when Lance was a teen-ager competing in a triathlon. The


    Gundersons

    Quoted message said:

    began avidly following Armstrong's career, but Eddie Gunderson said he did
    not make any attempt to contact Armstrong. He read a book in which


    Armstrong

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    was asked about his biological father and replied that he had no interest.

    ``That was on Page 20,'' Gunderson said. ``I never read Page 21."

    What a loser...It is still all about him. No interest in a book he already
    bought just because it revealed how Lance feels to be left behind.
    "velo bleu" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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  6. I can't remember exact details but I think it was a gift from a nurse or a
    patient he met during his chemo. It's a remembrance of them. He talked
    about it in his first book...

    "Father Haskell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    ie said:


    According to his book, he did not know his father. His father left them
    when Lance was very young. He has very little in organized religion.

    Which would make his combination Texas / xian cross pendant doubly


    mysterious.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    Probably has something to do with his stepfather being a Christian
    fundamentalist who beat him often when he was young.

    I don't know if the book is available in French but if it is, I


    recommend

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    it--it offers good insight and inspiration. Your English seems very


    good,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    perhaps you could suffer through it in English.

    Cheers!

    "velo bleu" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]..

    Quoted message said:

    Hi,

    I wanted to know if the real father of Armstrong is hide, I mean if


    Lance

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    has finally found him, and if Lance believe in religion ?

  7. "ie" wrote...

    Quoted message said:

    from an earlier post:

    Quoted message said:

    ``That was on Page 20,'' Gunderson said. ``I never read Page 21."

    What a loser...It is still all about him. No interest in a book he already
    bought just because it revealed how Lance feels to be left behind.

    You're not a dad, are you?

  8. ie said:


    According to his book, he did not know his father. His father left them
    when Lance was very young. He has very little in organized religion.

    Which would make his combination Texas / xian cross pendant doubly mysterious.

    Quoted message said:

    Probably has something to do with his stepfather being a Christian
    fundamentalist who beat him often when he was young.

    I don't know if the book is available in French but if it is, I recommend
    it--it offers good insight and inspiration. Your English seems very good,
    perhaps you could suffer through it in English.

    Cheers!

    "velo bleu" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]..

    Quoted message said:

    Hi,

    I wanted to know if the real father of Armstrong is hide, I mean if Lance
    has finally found him, and if Lance believe in religion ?

  9. "velo bleu" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    I wanted to know if the real father of Armstrong is hide, I mean if Lance
    has finally found him, and if Lance believe in religion ?

    Lance knows who his real father is and couldn't care less. Is there any
    reason he should after never seeing him until he became a millionaire?

    Lance claims to not be religious but I believe that he wears a cross around
    his neck. He says it's just a token but I think that he is looking to
    believe even if he doesn't right now. As he grows older and realizes all of
    the things that happened in the most perfect order for him to become who he
    was - for him to accomplish what he has - for him to demonstrate to others
    the strength of human spirit I suspect he might just realize that there was
    another hand behind it.

  10. "Jim Flom" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    "ie" wrote...

    Quoted message said:

    from an earlier post:

    Quoted message said:

    ``That was on Page 20,'' Gunderson said. ``I never read Page 21."

    What a loser...It is still all about him. No interest in a book he


    already

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    bought just because it revealed how Lance feels to be left behind.

    You're not a dad, are you?

    Are you?

  11. "Tom Kunich" wrote ...

    Quoted message said:


    Are you?

    Whose your daddy?

  12. Tom Kunich said:
    Quoted message said:

    Lance claims to not be religious but I believe that he wears a cross around
    his neck. He says it's just a token but I think that he is looking to
    believe even if he doesn't right now.

    I believe he believes you want to believe he wants to believe.

  13. "Tom Kunich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    "velo bleu" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    I wanted to know if the real father of Armstrong is hide, I mean if


    Lance

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    has finally found him, and if Lance believe in religion ?

    Lance knows who his real father is and couldn't care less. Is there any
    reason he should after never seeing him until he became a millionaire?

    Lance claims to not be religious but I believe that he wears a cross


    around

    Quoted message said:

    his neck. He says it's just a token but I think that he is looking to
    believe even if he doesn't right now. As he grows older and realizes all


    of

    Quoted message said:

    the things that happened in the most perfect order for him to become who


    he

    Quoted message said:

    was - for him to accomplish what he has - for him to demonstrate to others
    the strength of human spirit I suspect he might just realize that there


    was

    Quoted message said:

    another hand behind it.

    No, nothing will likely change his mind about that- even nearly dying! The
    cross is apparently a gift from someone who died of cancer and he wears it
    for sentimenal reasons. One thing I have to say I like about Lance is that
    he won't be converted no matter what- kind of like me. You can talk miracles
    and jesus all you want but he simply dismisses it.

  14. On 7/25/04 8:28 PM, in article
    [email hidden], "Tom Kunich"

    Quoted message said:

    "velo bleu" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    I wanted to know if the real father of Armstrong is hide, I mean if Lance
    has finally found him, and if Lance believe in religion ?

    Lance knows who his real father is and couldn't care less. Is there any
    reason he should after never seeing him until he became a millionaire?

    Lance claims to not be religious but I believe that he wears a cross around
    his neck. He says it's just a token but I think that he is looking to
    believe even if he doesn't right now. As he grows older and realizes all of
    the things that happened in the most perfect order for him to become who he
    was - for him to accomplish what he has - for him to demonstrate to others
    the strength of human spirit I suspect he might just realize that there was
    another hand behind it.


    I think it is an outline of the state of Texas and not a cross

  15. Paul Richardson said:

    On 7/25/04 8:28 PM, in article
    [email hidden], "Tom Kunich"

    Quoted message said:

    "velo bleu" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    I wanted to know if the real father of Armstrong is hide, I mean if
    Lance
    has finally found him, and if Lance believe in religion ?

    Lance knows who his real father is and couldn't care less. Is there any
    reason he should after never seeing him until he became a millionaire?

    Lance claims to not be religious but I believe that he wears a cross
    around
    his neck. He says it's just a token but I think that he is looking to
    believe even if he doesn't right now. As he grows older and realizes
    all of
    the things that happened in the most perfect order for him to become
    who he
    was - for him to accomplish what he has - for him to demonstrate to
    others
    the strength of human spirit I suspect he might just realize that there
    was
    another hand behind it.


    I think it is an outline of the state of Texas and not a cross

    It is an outline of the state of Texas.

    --
    Bob in CT
    Remove ".x" to reply

  16. "Jim Flom" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    "Tom Kunich" wrote ...

    Quoted message said:


    Are you?

    Whose your daddy?

    Look Jim, when this sperm doner went away and only decided to call again
    when Lance was famous that pretty much does it for him. He can't say
    anything that has any meaning to me.

  17. "Tom Kunich" wrote...

    Quoted message said:


    Look Jim, when this sperm donor went away and only decided to call again
    when Lance was famous that pretty much does it for him. He can't say
    anything that has any meaning to me.

    I'm not saying Lance owes him a thing, and maybe the guy is gold-digging
    (oops, wrong thread). It could be the guy has feelings, and regrets.
    That's all.

  18. "Jim Flom" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:7ChNc.50406$2i3.47173@clgrps12...

    Quoted message said:

    "Tom Kunich" wrote...

    Quoted message said:


    Look Jim, when this sperm donor went away and only decided to call again
    when Lance was famous that pretty much does it for him. He can't say
    anything that has any meaning to me.

    I'm not saying Lance owes him a thing, and maybe the guy is gold-digging
    (oops, wrong thread). It could be the guy has feelings, and regrets.
    That's all.

    I'll bet Tom's father had feelings and regrets.

  19. Quoted message said:

    From: "Jim Flom" [email hidden]

    Quoted message said:

    I'm not saying Lance owes him a thing, and maybe the guy is gold-digging
    (oops, wrong thread). It could be the guy has feelings, and regrets.
    That's all.

    Too friggin bad...Lance is right on the money in blowing this whatever off.
    Bill C

  20. Father Haskell said:
    ie said:

    According to his book, he did not know his father. His father left them
    when Lance was very young. He has very little in organized religion.

    Which would make his combination Texas / xian cross pendant doubly mysterious.

    The story as I've heard it is that it's a gift/memento from a cancer
    sufferer, who died shortly after Lance recovered from his.

    Lance has been clear about his agnosticism.

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    a fruitless hunt for a securely entrenched dictator and condemning
    them to fight in what would be an unwinnable urban guerilla war, it
    could only plunge that part of the world into ever greater
    instability." George Bush Sr. in his 1998 book "A World Transformed"

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