Spinning Guide?

brian-s-jones-at-comcast.net wrote:
:: Anyone know of a guide to spinning for someone just starting out?
::
:: "Experienced" rider but hav never concentrated much on spinning.

So what is spinning?

Quoted message said:

Subject: Re: Spinning Guide?
From: "Roger Zoul" [email hidden]
Date: 7/23/2004 9:52 AM US Eastern Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>

brian-s-jones-at-comcast.net wrote:
:: Anyone know of a guide to spinning for someone just starting out?
::
:: "Experienced" rider but hav never concentrated much on spinning.

So what is spinning?

High cadence and using cardio moreso than just leg strength

(Fx199) said:

Quoted message said:

Subject: Re: Spinning Guide?
From: "Roger Zoul" [email hidden]
Date: 7/23/2004 9:52 AM US Eastern Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>

brian-s-jones-at-comcast.net wrote:
:: Anyone know of a guide to spinning for someone just starting out?
::
:: "Experienced" rider but hav never concentrated much on spinning.

So what is spinning?

High cadence and using cardio moreso than just leg strength

I would have thought this more or less "natural," given proper setup
on the bike?

-Luigi

Roger Zoul said:

brian-s-jones-at-comcast.net wrote:
:: Anyone know of a guide to spinning for someone just starting out?
::
:: "Experienced" rider but hav never concentrated much on spinning.

So what is spinning?

When a friend of mine told me she was taking a spinning class, I thought
for a minute she was referring to making yarn. Must be my connection to
the 60s...

AMG

brian-s-jones-at-comcast.net said:

Anyone know of a guide to spinning for someone just starting out?

"Experienced" rider but hav never concentrated much on spinning.

Dumb question: do you mean Spinning (as in the classes), or spinning (as in
maintaining a high cadence)?

Bill "not that I can offer help with either" S.

Quoted message said:

Dumb question: do you mean Spinning (as in the classes), or spinning (as in
maintaining a high cadence)?

Bill "not that I can offer help with either" S.

Aren't you supposed to spin in spinning class? Why do you differentiate?

Fx199 said:

Quoted message said:

Dumb question: do you mean Spinning (as in the classes), or
spinning (as in maintaining a high cadence)?

Bill "not that I can offer help with either" S.

Aren't you supposed to spin in spinning class? Why do you
differentiate?

I was trying to clarify the OP's question. There's a big difference between
a "Guide to Spinning CLASSES" and just pedaling faster out on the road.

Bill "Rotating" S.

Quoted message said:

Subject: Re: Spinning Guide?
From: "S o r n i" [email hidden]
Date: 7/23/2004 9:49 PM US Eastern Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>

Fx199 said:

Quoted message said:

Dumb question: do you mean Spinning (as in the classes), or
spinning (as in maintaining a high cadence)?

Bill "not that I can offer help with either" S.

Aren't you supposed to spin in spinning class? Why do you
differentiate?

I was trying to clarify the OP's question. There's a big difference between
a "Guide to Spinning CLASSES" and just pedaling faster out on the road.

Bill "Rotating" S.

And all this time I thought it was about high cadence to achieve cardiovascular
fitness and climbing/biking skills.

Fx199 said:

Quoted message said:

Subject: Re: Spinning Guide?
From: "S o r n i" [email hidden]
Date: 7/23/2004 9:49 PM US Eastern Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>

Fx199 said:

> Dumb question: do you mean Spinning (as in the classes), or
> spinning (as in maintaining a high cadence)?
>
> Bill "not that I can offer help with either" S.
>

Aren't you supposed to spin in spinning class? Why do you
differentiate?

I was trying to clarify the OP's question. There's a big difference
between a "Guide to Spinning CLASSES" and just pedaling faster out
on the road.

Bill "Rotating" S.

And all this time I thought it was about high cadence to achieve
cardiovascular fitness and climbing/biking skills.

If you can't see the difference between taking a spinning class and riding
on the road, then I can't help you.

Bill "your turn to rotate (don't forget to lube first)" S.

Quoted message said:

If you can't see the difference between taking a spinning class and riding
on the road, then I can't help you.

Bill "your turn to rotate (don't forget to lube first)" S.

Nothing kicks your butt as much as a real real hill.
I'll let ya know when I need yer help.
The actual act of high cadence can be achieved on a spin bike or in real
cycling.
The class part of it doesn't change anything except for being trendy. Thanks
for playing, here's your consololation prize.....BBZZZT

Fx199 wrote:
{I wrote the unattributed below}

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

If you can't see the difference between taking a spinning class and
riding on the road, then I can't help you.

Quoted message said:

Nothing kicks your butt as much as a real real hill.
I'll let ya know when I need yer help.
The actual act of high cadence can be achieved on a spin bike or in
real cycling.
The class part of it doesn't change anything except for being trendy.
Thanks for playing, here's your consololation prize.....BBZZZT

Please do yourself a favor: go back and read the thread. I was merely
trying to clarify the OP's question. Not really sure why you took exception
to that, but whatever. (I even /said/ I was asking a "dumb question" --
more out of curiosity than some technicality or something.)

I ride PLENTY of real hills, TYVM, and have never taken a spin class (or an
authorized "Spinning" class, for that matter). Don't plan to anytime soon,
either.

I still say there's a major difference between taking a class in a gym,
listening to an instructor and following some "program", and riding a REAL
ROAD BIKE out on the REAL ROAD. (And guess what: I'm right.)

Bill "so there; pppplllllll {raspberry.wav file}" S.

Quoted message said:

I ride PLENTY of real hills, TYVM, and have never taken a spin class (or an
authorized "Spinning" class, for that matter). Don't plan to anytime soon,
either.

You're not missing much except for the occaisional eye candy.

Quoted message said:

I still say there's a major difference between taking a class in a gym,
listening to an instructor and following some "program", and riding a REAL
ROAD BIKE out on the REAL ROAD. (And guess what: I'm right.)

There is, and I still say you can spin on either one. I'll take the real hills
anyday.

Spin class is just a social thing

Quoted message said:

Bill "so there; pppplllllll {raspberry.wav file}" S.

Got any ice cream to go with those raspberries?

Fx199 said:

Quoted message said:

I ride PLENTY of real hills, TYVM, and have never taken a spin class
(or an authorized "Spinning" class, for that matter). Don't plan to
anytime soon, either.

You're not missing much except for the occaisional eye candy.

You don't think I take yoga classes 2-3 times a week for the Zen, do you? 🙂

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I still say there's a major difference between taking a class in a
gym, listening to an instructor and following some "program", and
riding a REAL ROAD BIKE out on the REAL ROAD. (And guess what: I'm
right.)

There is, and I still say you can spin on either one. I'll take the
real hills anyday.

Well hell, what are we arguing about then? Never said one couldn't spin on
both.

Quoted message said:

Spin class is just a social thing

Bet it's an excellent workout, too, no doubt. People are usually drenched
with sweat by end. (It would probably kick my ass; can't take "vacations"
like you can on road. Or at least you're not supposed to.)

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Bill "so there; pppplllllll {raspberry.wav file}" S.

Got any ice cream to go with those raspberries?

Can't have it in the house, or I might need...SPINNING CLASSES!!!

Bill "full circle or what?" S.

Obviously written by an elite thin tired, multi-colored tight shirted,
holier than thou geek...

You're wrong, I ride the roads and I am an instructor. I'd be hard
pressed to recall a one-hour slice of road work that matched the
degree of challenge in one hour in my class.

Sure, there's a social element with any group fitness program, what's
so wrong with that?

Quoted message said:

Spin class is just a social thing

(Fx199) said:

There is, and I still say you can spin on either one. I'll take the real hills
anyday.

Please detail your training program from last week.

I'm sure the members of the group could learn something.

Chris Neary
[email hidden]

"Science, freedom, beauty, adventure: what more could
you ask of life? Bicycling combined all the elements I
loved" - Adapted from a quotation by Charles Lindbergh

Quoted message said:

Subject: Re: Spinning Guide?
From: [email hidden] (mikeman61)
Date: 7/24/2004 3:49 PM US Eastern Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>

Obviously written by an elite thin tired, multi-colored tight shirted,
holier than thou geek...

You're wrong, I ride the roads and I am an instructor. I'd be hard
pressed to recall a one-hour slice of road work that matched the
degree of challenge in one hour in my class.

Sure, there's a social element with any group fitness program, what's
so wrong with that?

Quoted message said:

Spin class is just a social thing

Sure , but how do you measure each person's workout?
You can't, they control the resistance.
There's nothing wrong with spin class, but personally I get a better workout
climbing real hills.
To each his own.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

There is, and I still say you can spin on either one. I'll take the real

hills

Quoted message said:

anyday.

Please detail your training program from last week.

I'm sure the members of the group could learn something.

Chris Neary
[email hidden]

"Science, freedom, beauty, adventure: what more could
you ask of life? Bicycling combined all the elements I
loved" - Adapted from a quotation by Charles Lindbergh

20-30 miles per day Mon-Weds-Fri
50 miles each Sat and Sun
Rest tues & thurs
Other non-bicycle training also.
What was your training last week, Chris Neary? I never said I was Lance
Armstrong, I'm just trying to work my way into higher mileage rides

Quoted message said:

Sure , but how do you measure each person's workout?
You can't, they control the resistance.

There's these new-fangled inventions called "heartrate monitors".

Quoted message said:

20-30 miles per day Mon-Weds-Fri
50 miles each Sat and Sun
Rest tues & thurs
Other non-bicycle training also.

Sounds like a mileage log, not a training log.

Quoted message said:

What was your training last week, Chris Neary?

Tuesday & Thursday: 1 hour interval workout @ spin class (peak loading @ 80%
of max heartrate)
Friday: 2 hours fast paceline ride on tandem
Saturday: 3.5 hour group ride, mix of easy paceline, hard paceline in
rolling terrain, and a 1800' 10% climb (pretty much maxed out or beyond
maxed out the entire time on the climb - it was a poor choice to do it)
Today: 2 hour recovery ride

Current goals (in order of importance):
1) Retain existing fitness (I'm doing a lot of traveling these days, which
throws a real wrench in my routines)
2) Rebuild flat speed and climbing strength to previous levels
3) Build endurance

Quoted message said:

I never said I was Lance Armstrong, I'm just trying to work
my way into higher mileage rides

We had 1/2 a dozen folks in our spin class use it as a tool for training for
their first completions of the Death Ride (in conjunction with a bunch of
on-bike time also, no doubt). Pretty solid data point, IMHO.

As I've stated before, an advantage of spin classes (for me) is the ability
to train to failure without finding myself blown up 30 miles from home.
Stationary trainers of all flavors are good for this, but it is difficult to
do properly on the bike. Many people (who may or may not include you) pile
on a lot of "junk miles" and receive little or no benefit. When I go home
from a spin class I *know* I have not wasted my time.

If what you're doing is working for you - GREAT!
But I'd be wary of thinking your choice is the only valid one.

Chris Neary
[email hidden]

"Science, freedom, beauty, adventure: what more could
you ask of life? Bicycling combined all the elements I
loved" - Adapted from a quotation by Charles Lindbergh

On Sun, 25 Jul 2004 20:10:23 GMT, Chris Neary <[email hidden]

Quoted message said:

wrote:

Quoted message said:

We had 1/2 a dozen folks in our spin class use it as a tool for training for
their first completions of the Death Ride (in conjunction with a bunch of
on-bike time also, no doubt). Pretty solid data point, IMHO.

At this level of use of the spin class, how do you handle the
different geometry and fit of a 'spin class bike' vs your road bike?
Would it not train slightly different muscles? Or do you happen to
find they are completely compatible, and/or similar 'rides'?

(At low mileage, low speed, etc., I thought sta. bike training helped,
but didn't do enough mileage/time/intensity on it to get muscle
soreness, etc. just used it to get in something on snow-in days and
such.)

-B