Spinning

Mimi Forsyth said:

It's awfully nice to close your eyes & ride at whatever
cadence/whatever resistance/ with friends, with music, in air
conditioning. No worries about trucks, broken glass, balance & such.

So subscribe to rec.boring.spinning then and leave us to discuss bicycling.

Bill "TYVM" S.

Mimi Forsyth said:

It's awfully nice to close your eyes & ride at whatever cadence/whatever
resistance/ with friends, with music, in air conditioning. No worries about
trucks, broken glass, balance & such.

Biking is more fun if your bike leaves the ground at regular intervals, and
for relatively long periods of time.

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7/20/2004
3:36 PM [GMT-8]

Hamster wheel? Rat race?

"Mimi Forsyth" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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| It's awfully nice to close your eyes & ride at whatever cadence/whatever
| resistance/ with friends, with music, in air conditioning. No worries
about
| trucks, broken glass, balance & such.

Quoted message said:

It's awfully nice to close your eyes & ride at whatever cadence/whatever
resistance/ with friends, with music, in air conditioning. No worries about
trucks, broken glass, balance & such.

Hey, bicycling is all about being alert and watching for hazards. Also, I get
to see sunrises, wildlife, great vistas, new areas and so on. In the process,
I encounter surly drivers, errant stinging insects, rain, glass, flats and
other minor inconveniences.

I guess spinning is bicycling with all the interesting parts taken out. I
wonder if they are going to do that with life next?

(Mimi Forsyth) said:

It's awfully nice to close your eyes & ride at whatever cadence/whatever
resistance/ with friends, with music, in air conditioning. No worries about
trucks, broken glass, balance & such.

No fresh air or countryside to look at, either.

I haven't done any of this "spinning" stuff...the closest I'd ever
come was in my brief time rowing (lowest boat in a large club).
Training on the ergometers ended up being like that, with your cox
bellowing, screaming, browbeating you and the roar of eight ergs
whirring away at 32 or 35 strokes a minute. That was really
unpleasant.

Outings were always good, no matter how exhausting, because you were
on boat on the river, sliding over the water and watching (out of the
corner of your eye, lest you be snapped back into reality with an EYES
IN THE BOAT! command) the countryside and the ladies' boats roll by.
Best thing was inviting ladies' boats out to dinner, if you met them
while both boats were "easy" and adrift.

Spinning indoors has none of that appeal.

-Luigi

I've done spinning a few times, though it doesn't agree with my knees. I get
the same thing on stationary bikes - my knees hurt after 30 minutes, but
they don't hurt after 7 hours on the road bike.

The class can be fairly motivating - good music. It can also cause you to
push gears that are too hard for too long, which may have contributed to my
knee issues.

I do know that spin classes are usually only 40 minutes of riding, and that
I saw real benefits in my weight and fitness when I got to multi-hour rides.

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Quoted message said:

It's awfully nice to close your eyes & ride at whatever cadence/whatever
resistance/ with friends, with music, in air conditioning. No worries

about

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trucks, broken glass, balance & such.

Luigi de Guzman said:

(Mimi Forsyth) said:

It's awfully nice to close your eyes & ride at whatever cadence/whatever
resistance/ with friends, with music, in air conditioning. No worries about
trucks, broken glass, balance & such.

No fresh air or countryside to look at, either.

I haven't done any of this "spinning" stuff...the closest I'd ever
come was in my brief time rowing (lowest boat in a large club).
Training on the ergometers ended up being like that, with your cox
bellowing, screaming, browbeating you and the roar of eight ergs
whirring away at 32 or 35 strokes a minute. That was really
unpleasant.

Outings were always good, no matter how exhausting, because you were
on boat on the river, sliding over the water and watching (out of the
corner of your eye, lest you be snapped back into reality with an EYES
IN THE BOAT! command) the countryside and the ladies' boats roll by.
Best thing was inviting ladies' boats out to dinner, if you met them
while both boats were "easy" and adrift.

Spinning indoors has none of that appeal.

-Luigi

AAARRGG! ye Salty Dog! 🙂 School Days are great!

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Hamster wheel? Rat race?

Don't put down what you don't understand.

I try to get in one or two spinning sessions in a week - on top of anywhere
from two to four rides.

For me, spinning classes allow me to do intense interval sessions without
fear of trashing myself so completely I get dropped and have to limp home.

I've seen real improvements in my hill climbing and ability to "surge" and
cover movements in groups since adding spinning to my routine.

Chris Neary
[email hidden]

"Science, freedom, beauty, adventure: what more could
you ask of life? Bicycling combined all the elements I
loved" - Adapted from a quotation by Charles Lindbergh

On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 04:07:35 GMT, Chris Neary <[email hidden]

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wrote:

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Hamster wheel? Rat race?

Don't put down what you don't understand.

I try to get in one or two spinning sessions in a week - on top of anywhere
from two to four rides.

For me, spinning classes allow me to do intense interval sessions without
fear of trashing myself so completely I get dropped and have to limp home.

I've seen real improvements in my hill climbing and ability to "surge" and
cover movements in groups since adding spinning to my routine.

I don't ride in groups. The only "group" I ride in is when I ride
with my brother.

I don't attack, counterattack, or sprint.

I have never raced, and will probably never race.

I just want to ride my bike. I do ride a magnetic trainer in the
wintertime, but that's a kind of purgatory--punishment, until God
grants me days which are rideable. Riding indoors is alienating--even
if it can produce, empirically, better results in terms of power
output. It isn't anywhere near as *fun* as being outside--and that's
why I have a bicycle.

-Luigi

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Chris Neary
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"Science, freedom, beauty, adventure: what more could
you ask of life? Bicycling combined all the elements I
loved" - Adapted from a quotation by Charles Lindbergh

Quoted message said:

Riding indoors is alienating--even
if it can produce, empirically, better results in terms of power
output. It isn't anywhere near as *fun* as being outside--and that's
why I have a bicycle.

Why do you think your experience should be universal?

Sounds pretty self-involved to me.

Chris Neary
[email hidden]

"Science, freedom, beauty, adventure: what more could
you ask of life? Bicycling combined all the elements I
loved" - Adapted from a quotation by Charles Lindbergh

On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 04:21:22 GMT, Chris Neary <[email hidden]

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wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Riding indoors is alienating--even
if it can produce, empirically, better results in terms of power
output. It isn't anywhere near as *fun* as being outside--and that's
why I have a bicycle.

Why do you think your experience should be universal?

Sounds pretty self-involved to me.

Don't misunderstand me: if you enjoy spinning, and it produces
positive benefits to you, well, fantastic. You could probably ride me
into the ground.

It's just not something I could do, is all I'm saying. I like
activities that are ends-in-themselves, rather than means-to-ends.

-Luigi

Luigi de Guzman said:

I don't ride in groups. The only "group" I ride in is when I ride
with my brother.

I don't attack, counterattack, or sprint.

I have never raced, and will probably never race.

man, sibling rivalry ain't what it used to be. i don't have a brother but
my sister taught me the very meaning and practice of psychological warfare.
bless her twisted & deviously clever heart.

had she been a boy i have no doubt i would be a stronger cyclist but as it is
my tactics are second to none.

luigi, you need to make better use of your brother.
--
david reuteler
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Quoted message said:

Don't misunderstand me: if you enjoy spinning, and it produces
positive benefits to you, well, fantastic.

Now you're talking sense.

Quoted message said:

It's just not something I could do, is all I'm saying. I like
activities that are ends-in-themselves, rather than means-to-ends.

For some the "means to the end" can become an "end-in-itself", if you can
follow my twisted wordplay.

Regards,

Chris Neary
[email hidden]

"Toleration is the greatest gift of the mind; it requires the
same effort of the brain that it takes to balance oneself on
a bicycle" - Helen Keller

David Reuteler said:

Luigi de Guzman said:

I don't ride in groups. The only "group" I ride in is when I ride
with my brother.

I don't attack, counterattack, or sprint.

I have never raced, and will probably never race.

man, sibling rivalry ain't what it used to be. i don't have a brother but
my sister taught me the very meaning and practice of psychological warfare.
bless her twisted & deviously clever heart.

had she been a boy i have no doubt i would be a stronger cyclist but as it is
my tactics are second to none.

luigi, you need to make better use of your brother.

I'm eight and a half years older than this particular brother in
question. All confrontations have thus far been utterly unfair in all
respects.

We're more equal on the bikes than anywhere else, but it hasn't boiled
down to racing. Yet. He did burn me pretty badly the other day off a
stoplight, but he did have a two-length head start, and was far more
ready for the green light than I was.

Cyclists on the roads who aren't family are fair game for a bit of a
chase, though. That's more for my own amusement than anything
else...a mind game: "hey how fast can I catch that other guy?"
sometimes I catch them. Other times, I don't.

The bicycle is the one place in my life where I am not compelled to
compete with anyone, or be ranked. Nobody bothers me on my bike;
it's just me. It's quite peaceful.

-Luigi

Mimi Forsyth said:

It's awfully nice to close your eyes & ride at whatever cadence/whatever
resistance/ with friends, with music, in air conditioning. No worries about
trucks, broken glass, balance & such.

Get some rollers. All the comfort and twice the danger.

--Blair
"Reminds me what to shop for tomorrow."

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David Reuteler said:

luigi, you need to make better use of your brother.

It's in older brothers' interests to be forbearing. 'cuz
in later years, us younger brothers end up owing them ;-)

cheers,
Tom

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On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 04:07:35 GMT, Chris Neary <[email hidden]

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wrote:

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Hamster wheel? Rat race?

Don't put down what you don't understand.

I don't trash stationary cycling.

I trash *copyrighted* stationary cycling. <G>

You'd get the same benefits on a trainer, with music, or in front of a
video tape or CompuTrainer.

Barry

On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 04:40:12 GMT, Chris Neary <[email hidden]

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wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Don't misunderstand me: if you enjoy spinning, and it produces
positive benefits to you, well, fantastic.

Now you're talking sense.

Quoted message said:

It's just not something I could do, is all I'm saying. I like
activities that are ends-in-themselves, rather than means-to-ends.

For some the "means to the end" can become an "end-in-itself", if you can
follow my twisted wordplay.

I see, but forgive me if I won't follow.

H'mmm. It won't be so hot today. Maybe take the brother out for a
lunchtime ride.

-Luigi

Luigi de Guzman said:

Quoted message said:

I've seen real improvements in my hill climbing and ability to "surge" and
cover movements in groups since adding spinning to my routine.

I don't ride in groups. The only "group" I ride in is when I ride
with my brother.

I don't attack, counterattack, or sprint.

I have never raced, and will probably never race.

I just want to ride my bike. I do ride a magnetic trainer in the
wintertime, but that's a kind of purgatory--punishment, until God
grants me days which are rideable. Riding indoors is alienating--even
if it can produce, empirically, better results in terms of power
output. It isn't anywhere near as *fun* as being outside--and that's
why I have a bicycle.

-Luigi

But did you not do some of these things in the past?

I suspect those that ride for the reasons you do will still be on the
bike in 10 or 20 years. I hope to have a fusion of both, and can
imagine riding in a group in a few years, and maybe entering a race in
5-10 years from now with a lot more training; but I like to 'fake' it
even riding by myself.

Right now, my sprints are against cars whom I intuit are going to
right hook me from behind. I've intuited quite a few of them, but they
still persist in this passive-aggressive stuff - one person riding
much too close around a bend to the left, no other cars on the rode -
I could have touched the car. Oddly, I could have found the person
since they were driving into a dead end section of a housing
development. Just was too busy enjoying myself to get mad as I prob.
should have. ;-P

-B