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The Legality of One Wheel

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  1. Ok, here's a fun question. I live in St. Augustine, FL, and there's a
    pedestrian street here. That means there are signs for "No Bikes", "No
    Skateboards", and "No Rollerblades". So, naturally, I ride my unicycle
    down the street without even a tinge of guilt. Few weeks ago, a bicycle
    cop (why the hell does HE get a bike) threatened to ticket me. So,
    where do uni's fit in the grand scheme of classification? Do I get to
    force my town to put "No Unicycling" signs up?

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  2. Cicero said:

    *Ok, here's a fun question. I live in St. Augustine, FL, and there's
    a pedestrian street here. That means there are signs for "No Bikes",
    "No Skateboards", and "No Rollerblades". So, naturally, I ride my
    unicycle down the street without even a tinge of guilt. Few weeks
    ago, a bicycle cop (why the hell does HE get a bike) threatened to
    ticket me. So, where do uni's fit in the grand scheme of
    classification? Do I get to force my town to put "No Unicycling"
    signs up? *


    The St Augustine 'city code' (http://tinyurl.com/5n3r6) is online. Throw
    unicycle in and you get no hits. Throw "pedal" in as in "pedal cycle" a
    commonly used expression for all human power pedaled vehicles, and you
    get no hits. Skateboards and roller skates and bicycles are specifically
    prohibited on sidewalks and in specified areas.

    Do your own research, i.e. don't trust my quick look, but based on what
    I see of the St Augustine codes, you're on good footing riding your
    unicycle *technically speaking*. Print it out and show it to an officer
    next time. Be nice about it, not smug. Let them know that it *appears*
    that unicycles are not covered in the code.

    What you do depends on how much trouble you want to make for the police
    and and for them to make for you.

    Report back here on your experiences, please.

    Raphael Lasar
    Matawan, NJ

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  3. You think it's bad the cop that caught you had a bike? While riding
    along a pedestrian mall last weekend I was pulled over by a motorcycle
    cop. Dear god the irony.
    best of luck,
    Zac

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  4. Our city cops hang around the schools monitoring traffic. When I was in
    7th grade my mom stopped in a red zone (not parked). She was just
    leaving when a bike cop stopped her and wrote her a ticket.

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  5. sounds to me like you need to pick yer battles. i'd just listen to the
    nice police man, and ride on the sidewalk. also, the cop's got a point.
    yer a lot slower than bikes, so you would slow down cars in the street.

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  6. Someone posted something in here about city codes in California, and it
    said that the legal definition of a bike involved the use of gears,
    which means that a giraffe would be in violation, but a standard uni
    would not be.

    Legally, unicycles are more closely related to wheelchairs than to
    bicycles and skateboards, which would make the rider a pedestrian, and
    thus legally belongs on pedestrian streets.

    At least that's what I remember.

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  7. The cops at Virginia Beach told me they consider the unicycle to be the same
    as a bike, so I had to stay on the bike path and stay off the pedestrian
    boardwalk. I was not inclined to argue even though I an sure they made the
    rule up on the spot. It does not usually pay to argue with cops, especially
    when they have guns and I do not.
    Jim

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    Ok, here's a fun question. I live in St. Augustine, FL, and there's a
    pedestrian street here. That means there are signs for "No Bikes", "No
    Skateboards", and "No Rollerblades". So, naturally, I ride my unicycle
    down the street without even a tinge of guilt. Few weeks ago, a bicycle
    cop (why the hell does HE get a bike) threatened to ticket me. So,
    where do uni's fit in the grand scheme of classification? Do I get to
    force my town to put "No Unicycling" signs up?

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  8. You're not going to like this, but here's my rule:

    When in doubt, be a bicycle.

    You'd be amazed at how much trouble it will save you. You can ride
    everywhere the bikes can ride, and probably don't need to ride where
    bikes can't.

    The cop can ride on the pedestrian street because he/she's a cop. I'm
    sure they can ride a motorcycle or drive a car there too.

    If you feel all unicyclists, regardless of skill level (not just you of
    course) *should* be allowed to ride on that pedestrian street, the
    establishment of a legal precedent will probably start with you getting
    a ticket, then fighting it and getting them to make a ruling. Be
    prepared to live with the result...

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  9. gasmaster said:

    *sounds to me like you need to pick yer battles. i'd just listen to
    the nice police man, and ride on the sidewalk. also, the cop's got a
    point. yer a lot slower than bikes, so you would slow down cars in the
    street. *

    See, but that's just the thing. St. George Street is a pedestrian
    street, so therefore classified as a sidewalk. There are no cars to
    slow down!

    To be honest, I'm not trying to be a jackass. I just really, really
    want to see a little "No Unicycling" signpost by the "No Biking" sign.
    That would make my day. 😄 😉

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  10. sockmonster said:

    *Someone posted something in here about city codes in California, and
    it said that the legal definition of a bike involved the use of gears,
    which means that a giraffe would be in violation, but a standard uni
    would not be. *

    not really, this definition leaves room for interperation. a "geared
    vehicle" does not nessesarely (forgive my poor spelling)
    mean cogs and chanes. Technically anything with a mechanical advantage
    (leverage) is geared.

    your standard unicycle has a tiny mechanical advantage. for example,
    when you are riding a coker, and take one pedal you will travel much
    further than you would if you took two crank lengnth steps. this is true
    for any unicycle. The only exception would be if the diameter of your
    wheel where exactly the size of your cranks.

    call me ignorant, but I don't care. I will ride anywhere I want.
    honestly, places where "no skateboarding, bicycling etc." signs are
    more attractive. It feels like I am beating the system. The worst anyone
    can do, is kick me out. If I came across a "no unicycling" sign, which I
    dout will happen in my lifetime, it woulden't change anything, I'd still
    ride there.

    Right now, my whole draw to unicycling, is street riding and skatepark
    riding. alot of the street spots that are great to skate, are perfect
    for unicycling.

    Take care of youreself, and each other,
    mike

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  11. 'link' (http://unicyclist.org/blog/show.cfm?serial=00727) with a link.

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  12. thats why you ride at night when no one is around to hassle you or call
    the police.

    mike

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  13. -eh- seen the wax part?
    It wont take long the cops will find out unicyclist may grind to.

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