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  1. I've been tryin a few stillstands recently.

    I'm at the point where I can break the 10 second mark now and then but
    not very often or consistently. Some of my longest stillstands seem to
    be achieved when I concentrate on which side of each of my feet I'm
    putting my weight on. eg. If my weight is falling too much to the right
    I will push my right bigtoe and left little toe down and vice versa.

    Question for all you awesome stillstanders out there:

    -Do you favour rebalancing yourself on one side more than the other?-

    I seem to be able to lean heaps to my left and still be able to regain
    my balance but on the other side I just don't seem to be able to lean as
    much.

    I've had a look at the guy that does that really long stillstand in
    Universe1 (the one that gets gradually fastforwarded) and he seems to do
    the same thing, his upper torso bends heaps one way but hardly at all
    the other way.

    I've also noticed that the guy in Universe1 (who is that BTW?) has got
    his right foot forward and he favours leaning to his right and that I go
    left foot forward and I favour leaning to my left.

    cheers
    Pete

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  2. when trying to standstill does it still count if you gently hope on your
    uni like you would if you were preparing to hop during a trial, or onto
    a high rock?

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  3. hell no 😄

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  4. Quoted message said:

    Do you favour rebalancing yourself on one side more than the other?


    I'm by no means an awesome stillstander in comparison to you (it sounds
    like we're at about the same level) but no, I don't seem to favour
    either side.

    Quoted message said:

    does it still count if you gently hope on your uni like you would if
    you were preparing to hop during a trial, or onto a high rock?


    Stillstanding is about keep yourself on top of the unicycle rather than
    keeping it underneath you, so any hopping, and particularly sideways,
    will immediately disqualify the stillstand.

    I find I do my best stillstands when preparing to do something in a
    trials line. I did a few nice ones yesterday at a bike trials comp, and
    I ended up forgetting what I was preparing to try and focussing on the
    stillstand. 🙂

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  5. I can stillstand for 10 seconds at the most.

    Does a stillstand really count if you ever so occasionally pedal forward
    or backward just like 1/360th of a rotation as you're leaning forward or
    backward to maintain your balance?

    Where should your feet be on the pedals? I find it helps for just the
    balls of my feet to be over the center and middle of the pedals, and
    when I do this, I'm almost just standing on the balls of my feet or my
    toes.

    Is it easier to stand on the cranks or the pedals? Sometimes its even
    easier to stand on the cranks and balance, as I practice stillstanding
    in the "seat drop" position way too much, and I can hop well like that,
    too.

    Should you sit on the seat, stand up on the pedals and lock your knees,
    or something in between?

    Does it count if you occasionally "compress" your tire (ie bob up and
    down) if the tire never leaves the ground. I find I need that "momentum"
    to begin a successful stillstand.

    Would it help to practice in a rut that holds your tire side to side? I
    find it helps me to practice in the grass.

    What is the best way to "get into" stillstand? From holding onto
    something, hopping (hand on seat or not?), rocking/idling, or just
    riding forward, or even right after you mount?

    I'm sorry if these are really lame questions, I am kinda a beginner at
    this! And itz sad cuz normally I can stillstand longer in the seat drop
    or one-footed wheelwalk (leg extended) position......

    ~Sara

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  6. unipsychogirl said:

    *Does a stillstand really count if you ever so occasionally pedal
    forward or backward just like 1/360th of a rotation as you're leaning
    forward or backward to maintain your balance?
    *

    I think so, that's what I do as well. As long as it's not a complete
    idle.

    Quoted message said:

    *Where should your feet be on the pedals? I find it helps for just the
    balls of my feet to be over the center and middle of the pedals, and
    when I do this, I'm almost just standing on the balls of my feet or my
    toes.
    *

    I don't think this matters very much. I do it with the arch of my feet
    on the pedals. Whatever's comfy.

    [quote="Quoted message"]Is it easier to stand on the cranks or the pedals? Sometimes its
    even easier to stand on the cranks and balance, as I practice
    stillstanding in the "seat drop" position way too much, and I can hop
    well like that, too.
    [/quote]

    If you stand on the cranks, then you can't move the pedals back and
    forth slightly like you mentioned in the first question.
    Actually, I just thought about it, and you probably could. I don't have
    much experience with feet on the cranks, so I dunno.

    [quote="Quoted message"]
    Should you sit on the seat, stand up on the pedals and lock your
    knees, or something in between?
    [/quote]

    I get much better times if I'm standing up, like I'm about to hop.

    [quote="Quoted message"]
    Does it count if you occasionally "compress" your tire (ie bob up and
    down) if the tire never leaves the ground. I find I need that
    "momentum" to begin a successful stillstand.
    [/quote]

    To begin a stillstand, it doesn't matter. But doing it during the
    stillstand is using that motion for balance rather than just your sense
    of balance. So I don't think it counts.

    [quote="Quoted message"]
    Would it help to practice in a rut that holds your tire side to side?
    I find it helps me to practice in the grass.
    [/quote]

    As long as your tire can lean a little bit to the sides, because you
    need to move it a bit to keep your balance. But I think it probably
    would help.

    [quote="Quoted message"]
    What is the best way to "get into" stillstand? From holding onto
    something, hopping (hand on seat or not?), rocking/idling, or just
    riding forward, or even right after you mount?
    [/quote]

    I don't think it matters very much.... When I do it from holding
    something, I'm always tempted to touch that thing for more balance. So I
    do it from hopping.

    Quoted message said:

    *
    I'm sorry if these are really lame questions, I am kinda a beginner at
    this!*



    Me too.

    Something that really helped me with stillstands (and no handed hops) is
    when you are about to fall over, hop without touching the seat. You'll
    be able to practice for a much longer time, because you won't need to
    start over. Gradually, the time between the hops will get longer and
    longer.... And your no handed hops will also get better.
    But then, I'm not that good at stillstands.... I can do it for about
    20-30 seconds usually. These are just some tips that help me out.


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  7. Quoted message said:

    But then, I'm not that good at stillstands.... I can do it for about
    20-30 seconds usually. These are just some tips that help me out.


    20 - 30 seconds is a loooong stillstand. That is definately far above
    average...you are very good at stillstanding. Do you have access to a
    camera? I'd love to see a short clip of the technique you use. Do you
    do much rail riding? Because you'd be very good at it I think.

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  8. andrew_carter said:

    *20 - 30 seconds is a loooong stillstand. That is definately far
    above average...you are very good at stillstanding. Do you have
    access to a camera? I'd love to see a short clip of the technique you
    use. Do you do much rail riding? Because you'd be very good at it I
    think.
    *

    Really? I thought a ton of people were much better than me....
    I do a bit of rail riding, and I'm okay at it. I can ride a skinny
    that's about as wide as the tire, maybe a little bigger. But I sometimes
    go side to side when I'm riding it, that's what I need to practice the
    most..
    I'll see if we can get a clip of my stillstand for our next movie.

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  9. There's a distinct lack of stillstand videoes, I guess they're rare
    because it's a relatively rare trick, I've never met anyone who can do
    over 15 seconds. I'd like to see some good quality footage of the people
    who do over a minute!

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  10. Quoted message said:

    I'll see if we can get a clip of my stillstand for our next movie.


    Excellent.

    Pete,
    I agree, I'd also love to see that. What I'd really like ot see is a
    clip of Dustin Kelm doing a 5 minute stillstand.

    Andrew

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  11. Quoted message said:

    There's a distinct lack of stillstand videoes, I guess they're rare
    because it's a relatively rare trick, I've never met anyone who can do
    over 15 seconds. I'd like to see some good quality footage of the
    people who do over a minute!

    a fantastic still stand clip is the opening for stiletto (sp?) in 'one
    tired guy'. in a still stand kris turns his upper body towards the
    camera. awsome! there's also a great variety of still stands presented
    in 'one wheel no limit'. seat dragging must help for still stands and
    vice versa.

    as for what counts, i always think of whether my wheel movement (without
    hops), would hold on a rail or not. if not it doesn't count.

    and i'm glad to see athread on still stands. they impress me and make me
    happy when i can pull off a good one. ocaisionaly i can get to 20-30
    seconds and can get 10 sec. relatively consistently now.

    john

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  12. i think it helps to learn on a very narrow beam. Mainly because you have
    to stay on the beam if you want to continue the still stand, so in
    effect you are forced to stillstand. this will also help with mounting
    on skinnies, a necessary technique, infact i learnt to still stand when
    i was learning to ride skinnies, because i had to.

    i can consistently do 10-20 second still stands, and my record is
    probably 40 or 50 seconds. im going to practise more so i can do them
    without concentrating as hard. i think concentration is pretty important
    as well.

    iain

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  13. The technique I use is to simply act wayyyy early.I used to be able to
    stillstand for 10 seconds, then I'd overcompensate and fall. Making
    small, quick adjustments as soon as you need or even anticipate them
    solves this. Sometimes during a stillstand I will stand there directly
    above my tire without appearing to move for 10-15 seconds. I'm really
    making tiny adjustments. I'll try to get a video of a stillstand on th
    S.W.A.T. video, whenever that comes out. My best is like 90 seconds.

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  14. TheObieOne3226 said:

    *My best is like 90 seconds. *

    Whuuooaa!! That's a looong time. What's your average for stillstanding?

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