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  1. im having trouble with the whole hovering thing, and i was wondering of
    you guys could give me sum tips? thanx in advance

    -travis

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  2. I'd like to learn to hover as well. Then I might not fall down as much.
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  3. What is hovering???

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  4. maybe he means idling?

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  5. We could ask him... gasmaster, by 'hovering' do you mean idling,
    stand-stills, or something else all together?

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  6. Idling is with pedals vertical, hovering is horizontal...or so I've
    heard.

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  7. Oh, I thought he was talking about actually hovering above the ground.
    I was gonna give some tips, but oh well. I learned to hover about a
    year ago.

    john

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  8. Well, I haven't got it down yet, but I'm inching closer. Whenever I go
    out on the uni, I spend time riding really slowly while trying to
    maintain smooth control. My idles have gotten much smaller and slower,
    and often I just ease into a horizontal position with the cranks and try
    to maintain a hover with small, slow rocking movements. It requires
    more finesse than idling. Not having seen this skill performed in real
    life, I'm just assuming that this is what I actually should be doing,
    and that sooner or later I will be able to maintain this position for a
    more protracted length of time.

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  9. stand still, idling, rocking, there are several words for it, but it all
    boils down to going back and forth to stand still, which is what im
    having trouble with. by the way, thanx for the suggestion, elmer. i'll
    have to try that.

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  10. gasmaster said:

    *stand still, idling, rocking, there are several words for it, but it
    all boils down to going back and forth to stand still, which is what
    im having trouble with. by the way, thanx for the suggestion, elmer.
    i'll have to try that. *

    a still stamd is completely different than idling. in a still stand you
    balance in one place withouhg moving the wheel. for idling you rock
    back and forth. my best tip is to practice transitioning from forwards
    to backwards and vice versa. so ride forwards, stop, ride backwards.
    this will help you get used to the motion required to idle. then
    practice by increasing the number of times you rock. so go forward,
    rock backwards, then ride forwards again. then go forward, rock back,
    rock forward, and ride backwards. you get the idea.

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  11. gasmaster said:

    *stand still, idling, rocking, there are several words for it, but it
    all boils down to going back and forth to stand still...*


    Hovering is generally recognized as the UK version of idling (or
    rocking).

    I like the idea of using "hovering" to represent the form of idling
    where the cranks are horizontal. This method usually involves minimal
    wheel rotation, as it's intended to aid in a quick getaway, such as in
    basketball.

    To learn regular idling, start near your handy wall or other support,
    and get used to having one foot go back and forth in the bottom part of
    the pedal stroke. The forward-backward part is pretty easy. Try it slow
    and fast. Notice to do it slow, you have to wait until you start to fall
    in the opposite direction before moving the wheel back the other way.

    Once you're comfortable with the rocking motion, you start to add in
    side-to-side corrections. Try to keep them subtle. If you're making
    massive twists to stay aligned, you're losing it. You'll know you're
    getting close when you don't make much turning motions (to the sides).
    Eventually you'll be able to start letting go of the wall.

    That's one approach. I recommend combining it with out-in-the-open
    practice as well. First try riding, stopping, then continuing. Getting
    used to making a stop while staying balanced. Then try stopping, and
    making a half-rotation backward before riding away. Timing is important
    here. You can't rush it, the timing has to match the location of your
    balance point.

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  12. johnfoss said:

    *I like the idea of using "hovering" to represent the form of idling
    where the cranks are horizontal. *

    Hmm, yeah, that does sound like a good word for horizontal idling.
    Reminds me of a bird or bee or spacecraft: essentially staying in one
    spot. This rarely happens in a regular idle.

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  13. Step 1. Pick up left leg.
    Step 2. Pick up right leg (do not drop left leg!)
    Step 3. Hover.

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  14. zach_jucha said:

    *Step 1. Pick up left leg.
    Step 2. Pick up right leg (do not drop left leg!)
    Step 3. Hover. *

    What level skill would estimate this to be? No hands, no feet, no rear.
    No contact with any moving or stationary parts of the unicycle.
    Shouldn't you at least be holding onto the uni, or is that an invisible
    uni across your knees?

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  15. nice trampoline, zach

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  16. johnfoss said:
    Quoted message said:

    *I like the idea of using "hovering" to represent the form of idling
    where the cranks are horizontal. *

    iunicycle said:

    Hmm, yeah, that does sound like a good word for horizontal idling.
    Reminds me of a bird or bee or spacecraft: essentially staying in one
    spot. This rarely happens in a regular idle.

    Except that, as John mentioned earlier, 'hovering' is already the
    accepted English word for what the Americans call 'idling'.

    Since the creation of rsu and with the spread of the internet, 'idling'
    has become popular among British riders with internet access. But
    'hovering' is still the most common term among people who don't read
    rsu. If we started using the same term to mean different things on
    opposite sides of the pond it would just become unnecessarily confusing.

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  17. Danny Colyer said:

    *If we started using the same term to mean different things on
    opposite sides of the pond it would just become unnecessarily
    confusing. *


    But we already do. Over here, pavement is the stuff the road (or
    sidewalk) is made of, the subway is where the train goes, if a car has a
    boot it's a fabric cover for something, and "lorry" is a girl's name.
    🙂

    Plus, three different words to mean the same thing is already confusing.
    The IUF does not use rocking or hovering. But the Standard Skill list
    has a skill called Twisting, which is not exactly what hovering is, but
    nobody uses that name anyway. If the IUF were to add Hovering to the
    Standard Skill list it would be an "internationally accepted" skill
    name, even though you could still use it for idling in the UK.

    Plus you could come out with a UK translation of the IUF Rules if you
    wanted, I guess... 😕

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  18. I said:
    Quoted message said:

    *If we started using the same term to mean different things on
    opposite sides of the pond it would just become unnecessarily
    confusing. *

    and johnfoss responded:

    Quoted message said:

    But we already do. Over here, pavement is the stuff the road (or
    sidewalk) is made of, the subway is where the train goes, if a car has a
    boot it's a fabric cover for something, and "lorry" is a girl's name.
    🙂

    Yeah, I was trying to think of an example and for some reason just couldn't.

    I hear that 'Robin' and 'Jamie' are girls' names over there as well,
    whereas over here they are quite definitely boys' names.

    Quoted message said:

    Plus you could come out with a UK translation of the IUF Rules if you
    wanted, I guess... 😕

    I was going to post a link to a guide to English for Americans that I
    saw somewhere a while ago, but I couldn't find it. This is good, though:
    <URL:http://www.poisonedminds.com/Flash/English/English.html>

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  19. If the IUF were to add Hovering to the Standard Skill list it would be
    an "internationally accepted" skill name, even though you could still
    use it for idling in the UK. [/B]

    And once "horizontal idling" or, as I've heard it called "circus idle",
    gets a cool name like hovering, it might catch on more. We might even get
    a few who can do a one foot hover.

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  20. Quoted message said:

    nice trampoline, zach

    eat my flotation

    that's not even me anyway.. i can't hover yet.

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