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  1. Does anyone have any experience of it? What are the legalities of it?
    and what sort of thing do you usually have to do to get any money? I can
    ride forwards, idle, and ride backwards a bit. I can bunny hop without
    holding on the seat and I can juggle whilst I'm doing it, I can juggle
    balls and clubs whilst riding forwards, and I'm just getting the hang of
    juggling whilst idling. I'va also got a pair of stilts, but no trousers
    made for them yet, and I prefer unicycling!

    Any suggestions? I'm not planning to do anything just yet. I've got
    exams until the end of June, but I'm thought it would be god to try it
    out sometime this summer.

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  2. Read these articles:

    'The Art of Juggling in Performance'
    (http://www.jugglingdb.com/articles/?id=47)
    'An Introduction to Street Performance'
    (http://www.jugglingdb.com/articles/?id=40)
    'Creating a Juggling Act'
    (http://www.jugglingdb.com/help/?category=49)
    'Busking and Performing on the Street'
    (http://www.jugglingdb.com/help/?category=57)

    Good luck,
    Raphael Lasar
    Matawan, NJ

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  3. busking is a weird thing. some days youll get 500$ for a show, and some
    days, you'll get 10 bucks. from the little bit of experience i have,
    its definitely not your juggling or unicycling skills that get you the
    money. its your stage presence and ability to keep the audience
    entertained by other means. it really takes work to perfect those
    skills. im not sure on the legalities really, but often its illegal in
    places where you think it shouldnt be. so try to talk to someone about a
    site youve found. thats all i really have to say.

    Kevin ,good luck with it.

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  4. I think you ask the council, or whatever, of the place you want to busk
    in, then they set a time and see your act and decide whether it's worth
    letting you busk.

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  5. By the way, 'Drawing a Circle in the Square: Street Performing in New
    York's Washington Square Park' (http://tinyurl.com/2f972) is an
    excellent book on primarily the culture but also the technique's of
    street performing.

    It is also available on 'Amazon UK' (http://tinyurl.com/3bf33). (I get a
    browser error for this link. If it doesn't work, just do a search at
    Amazon UK for the title. It's there).

    Cheers,
    Raphael Lasar
    Matawan, NJ

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  6. I've done quite a lot of busking, but never on a unicycle. So I'll pass
    on what tips I have.

    - Check the legality in the specific area you're busking, it totally
    depends on local laws... Oxford and York you're find in, Birmingham
    you aren't, bits of London you are, and other bits you aren't.
    - This one's a bit difficult with a uike, but make sure that at all
    times you can easily close or pick up your money box - the last thing
    you want is to busk all day and someone to nick the contents.
    - Check out where other people busk before you go - find a good pitch
    and make sure you aren't starting a turf war.
    - Have one or two killer tricks that get the money rolling in - get a
    good crowd up, do a killer trick, get the money in, and then have a
    break.
    - With reference to the last one - have plenty of breaks, and a bottle
    of water about the place, if you are tired and not performing well
    people won't pay you.

    Hope these help

    Bob

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  7. I used to busk in and around Nottingham in about 1983/4, playing music,
    but not using the harmonica. A couple of times, i did fire eating
    too.

    Do you mean "busking" or "streat entertainment"? A busker stands there
    and plays an instrument or sings, or quietly gets on with a bit of
    juggling and waits for the money to go in the hat from people passing
    by. A street entertainer occupies an area of ground and puts on a show,
    encouraging people to stop, watch and pay.

    The difference is important, because England's laws are enforced only
    sporadically, and occasionally with a surprising degree of common sense.
    So if you aren't blocking the main thoroughfare, intimidating anyone,
    creating a public nuisance, or actively begging for money, the worst you
    will usually get is being asked to move on. On the other hand, if you
    mark out an arena with a 50 footlength of rope, address members of the
    public directly and loudly, blow 6 foot spouts of flame, and run round
    the front of the crowd with a hat demanding payment (be it ever so
    jocularly!) you might end up upsetting a Bobby.

    Then you have to be sensitive to the place. In Nottingham, it's OK to
    busk in the subways (pedestrian underpasses), and on certain shopping
    streets. You wouldn't get away with it in the Market Square, or outside
    a municipal building. If you are somewhere touristy (and I guess Oxford
    falls into that category), and somewhere where there may be lots of
    other potential buskers (e.g. a major university city...) then the rules
    might be enforced a bit more rigorously.

    If you ask for permission and it's refused, then you are in trouble if
    you get caught doing it. if you don't ask, and you get caught, you may
    well get away with a reprimand. (Ignorance of the law is no excuse, but
    genuine well meaning ignorance coupled with a polite show of imbecility
    can help.)

    And if there are regular busking "pitches" in your area, don't muscle
    in. Some buskers do it for a living, not just for a hobby.

    Good luck.

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  8. Thanks for all the advice. 🙂

    There are a lot of buskers and street traders on Cornmarket in Oxford
    and I don't think they get too much trouble. I suppose the best bet
    there would just be to go and ask one of them sometime.

    I hear what you're saying about having a proper show worked out being
    much better than just standing there juggling or whatever, but I think
    that's what I'll probably start off with until I get a bit more
    confident with it all, and then work out a show.

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  9. I have previously busked on the Cornmarket in Oxford (you might have
    seen me playing my pipes last year) - you'll have no problem from the
    police - busking is legal in Oxford. What you may have trouble with is
    other buskers. Buskers in Oxford I've found to be VERY territorial, and
    if you accidentally get one of their spots, you're in trouble.

    Having said that, it is a very very good place to busk, I've made about
    £150 an hour on Cornmarket St before.

    Bob

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  10. tugboat said:

    *its definitely not your juggling or unicycling skills that get you
    the money. its your stage presence and ability to keep the audience
    entertained by other means. *


    This is probably the most important bit of information for someone
    starting out. Watch other performers. You may notice that the best ones
    do not necessarily do any really hard tricks, but they make the audience
    laugh or build up great stories.

    In unicycling, when speaking of just tricks, you'll find you get 0-3%
    applause for coasting, or other real hard tricks, and90-130% applause
    for relatively easy stuff like jumping rope. Same applies to juggling.
    You juggle three clubs while idling, a smattering of applause. You pick
    up a dropped club from the ground, the applause will be bigger.

    But you can make that club pickup response even bigger by "playing it."
    It's all about the show.

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  11. JJuggle said:

    Read these articles:

    'The Art of Juggling in Performance'
    (http://www.jugglingdb.com/articles/?id=47)
    'An Introduction to Street Performance'
    (http://www.jugglingdb.com/articles/?id=40)
    'Creating a Juggling Act'
    (http://www.jugglingdb.com/help/?category=49)
    'Busking and Performing on the Street'
    (http://www.jugglingdb.com/help/?category=57)

    Good luck,
    Raphael Lasar
    Matawan, NJ

    These are some links posted by Raphael

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