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  1. I'm thinking of getting a nimbus trials, because the other's just seem
    to be too expensive. Then upgrading the hub and cranks later because I'm
    still relatively new to trials. I would also possibly upgrade the seat
    and maybe get it powdercoated. But I have a few questions.

    Which is more likely to bend/break, hub or cranks? Would it make sense
    to just buy better cranks?

    What will they cost and where should I buy them?

    At the Bedford site it says, a set would be about $525, is this true?

    Would there be anything else i'd have to worry bout?

    Do you think its worth my money?

    Any comments, suggestions, replies are appreciated.

    Thanks,
    David

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  2. In most cases it's the cranks I think the problem is that all of the
    shorter cranks that are available are realy made for little kids bikes
    the one exception is the monty cranks which were not available at the
    time I was trying to find something that wouldn't bend on the first two
    foot drop, unless you only weigh a hundred pounds or less I would go
    ahead and try to buy an onza or a chris holm or try to find a sumit
    used. I ended up upgrading to a profile hub wheelset which costs more
    than a complete onza or a chris holm, and if you buy the chris holm from
    the start you get a better frame as well.

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  3. Thanks. I hadn't realised hub and cranks were so expensive. I think i
    should go with the onza, of course I said that a month ago. Any
    objections from anyone else, speak now or forever hold your peace.

    David

    Ps. you can speak later if you want.

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  4. If you have the cash go for either the KH or Onza straight off, but
    ifyou're not sure about getting into trials etc, go for the Nimbus. I
    had one and it served me well. I ended up upgrading to an Onza hub/crank
    set. It's easy to upgrade and the parts like the seat and frame etc
    should last you.

    Hope this has helped.

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  5. How much did the onza wheel set cost you?

    David

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  6. darchibald said:

    *At the Bedford site it says, a set would be about $525, is this
    true?*

    I would talk to Darren directly about the price. It's probably less
    than what he has listed on his site. At least that was the case when I
    got my KH hub and cranks from him.

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  7. I just bought the hub and cranks from unicycle.uk.com for... £120 I
    think and replaced my old hub, so I have the same rim. 'My unis'
    (http://gallery.unicyclist.com/albuw11) Hopefully this'll work... if not
    then I give up! Take a look at the trials uni there.

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  8. It's not that much for most hubs and cranks, although profiles are
    probably about that. You can get a Kris Holm hub and crank set in the US
    for about $200, I think. If you go with the nimbus trials the cranks
    will probably break first, and they can be replaced for a tenner for
    cheap steel ones or $20 - $30 for better alloy ones, although alloy
    cranks snap rather than bend so aren't good if you do big drops.
    It'll probably be cheaper in the long run to get a splined set up,
    either KH or onza, but the nimbus can take a bit of punishemt if you're
    not sure you want to spend huge amounts now.
    The seat is fine too, I woulnd't bother changing that unless you're
    feeling rich and want a carbon fibre base.

    John

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  9. How much abuse can the Nimbus take? Approximately how high can you
    really go? Also does this look like a good wheel set (on the top):

    http://tinyurl.com/2evwm

    I'd have to ask if they had a 36er, and it kinda looks like it has the
    nub problem, but other than that I think it looks okay. The price is
    right. Tell me what you think.

    David

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  10. The Qu-Ax only comes in 48-hole, so you'll need a 48-hole although I
    think it's possible to have a 48-hole hub on a 36-hole rim, if someone
    knows how to built the wheel that way. Don't know much about it tho, or
    if it has any major pros or cons. Cheap tho, and I've heard they are
    strong. I think the Nimbus is good for learning hopping ON to things,
    not off them. After all, there's no point learning to drop of big things
    ifyou can't get up there, which is what trials is all about. However if
    you're in it to drop of huge things, save up for a splined hub/crank set
    from the get go. Personally, I think it's preferable to learn to do
    smaller drops really well on a cheaper hub/crank set, before trashing a
    splined crankset, which you will do if you're going big, unless you're
    really light or can drop really well. Others may disagree.

    What a babble. If you can make head or tail out of that I'll be
    surprised!

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  11. I'm still relatively new to this trials thing (but sure I was going to
    do it) and was thinking Nimbus then upgrade later. Originally I was
    thinking Onza but ruled that out because of money. But i just found out
    today that i might be getting a job so the onza is back on the menu. It
    also depends what Bedford will be selling the Kh for since he (like me)
    is canadian.

    David

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  12. Another option is to get the Torker DX just for the hub and cranks and
    get a Nimbus frame. The Torker comes with a splined hub and crank set
    and costs under 200 usd.

    One note on cranks:
    I feel that it is much better to get cheap(ish) cranks and have them be
    the weak point in the system. Although hubs are cheap, the cost of
    building a wheel (if you don't do it yourself) is not. I would much
    rather replace a crank then a hub.

    Daniel

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  13. Whats wrong with the DX frame?

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  14. The torker idea is a good one. I just have to know the size of the hub,
    like exact specs. I'd be looking at:

    Nimbus II Frame
    Torker DX Seat Post/Seat
    Torxer DX hub/cranks/pedals
    Alex DX32 Tire
    Luna Trials tire

    Anyone have any suggestions/improvements? Again, the most important
    thing would be to get the proper hub measurements, that way i'll know
    what spokes to get and whether or not they'll fit the rim. this will be
    my first custom job so if I'm missing anything please inform NOW. Thanks
    for your help. All replies appreciated.

    David

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  15. I just realised the Torker is 48 spokes. Whats a 48 spoke alternative to
    the Alex rim?

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  16. AS some one stated, and I repeated in my PM to you, you can lace a 48
    hole hub to a 36 hole rim. Just don't ask me how, cause I konw about
    nothing of wheel building.

    Daniel

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  17. Opps, hit the quote button instead of the edit.

    Anyway,
    To answer the question of what's wrong with the DX frame. Nothing is
    wrong with it. The problem with it is that it's too narrow for trials.
    It won't fit wide trials tires.

    I think if Torker were to put a wider frame and a 19 inch rim on their
    DX line, they would corner the low cost trials market.

    Daniel

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  18. Dunno how cheap that Torker trials wouldbe, but I know Qu-Ax do really
    cheap trials and muni with splined hub/crank sets.

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  19. Where can you buy the cheap QU-AX? I thought I found one for a little
    more than $400 (my money), which is still more then the onza or the KH.
    I'll look some more though.

    David

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  20. Qu-Ax unis from 'municycle.com' (http://www.municycle.com/) in Germany,
    Roland is super cool, so ask him any questions you have.

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