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  1. OK, so it's not so much a noisy chain but I find that the chain and sprockets on the derailleur
    (sorry I don't know the posh name!) seem rather noisy (clattery?), for lack of a better word(s). On
    this basis I was after maintenance ideas for the chain at least, and ideally the rest of the system.
    How often should I be oiling and greasing, and what should I oil and grease? I oil the chain once a
    month or so with TF2 (lubricant spray with Teflon) but it attracts a lot of dirt (even though it is
    wiped down after oiling). I'm sure the dirt isn't helping matters.

    I'm not sure that paragraph makes any sense, but any ideas?

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  2. In article <[email hidden]>, StainlessSteelRat

    Quoted message said:

    OK, so it's not so much a noisy chain but I find that the chain and sprockets on the derailleur
    (sorry I don't know the posh name!) seem rather noisy (clattery?), for lack of a better word(s).

    Adjusting the alignment of the chain should help - put the shifters in the central position on
    the front and rear changers and adjust with the small knurled adjuster at the rear until the
    noise stops.

    hth

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  3. "StainlessSteelRat" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    I oil the chain once a month or so with TF2 (lubricant spray with Teflon) but it attracts a lot of
    dirt (even though it is wiped down after oiling). I'm sure the dirt isn't helping matters.

    Oiling a dirty chain is the fastest way to wear it out. The first thing to do is to take a 12"
    ruler and measure a straight run of your chain along 24 links from rivet centre to rivet centre.
    Each link is
    1/2" so the 24 should measure 12" exactly. If a run of 24 measures more than 12 1/8" it is worn out
    and needs replacing. The sprockets will almost certainly need replacing too, and possibly the
    chainrings.

    Google in this group and in rec.bicycles.tech for chain maintenance. Also read Sheldon Brown on the
    topic. The problem with Sheldon's pages, however, is that they are so rich in irresistible links
    that it's very hard not to get sidetracked for about 3 hours. :-)

    --
    Dave...

  4. Sandy Morton said:
    Quoted message said:

    OK, so it's not so much a noisy chain but I find that the chain and sprockets on the derailleur
    (sorry I don't know the posh name!) seem rather noisy (clattery?), for lack of a better word(s).

    Adjusting the alignment of the chain should help - put the shifters in the central position on
    the front and rear changers and adjust with the small knurled adjuster at the rear until the
    noise stops.

    I am fairly sure it's not an alignment issue (sorry, I should have mentioned this). It's simply that
    the running of the chain through the derailleur sprockets and perhaps the chain itself are just
    particularly noisy at the moment. Hence I was wondering if something needs some additional
    maintenance.

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  5. Dave Kahn said:
    Quoted message said:

    I oil the chain once a month or so with TF2 (lubricant spray with Teflon) but it attracts a lot
    of dirt (even though it is wiped down after oiling). I'm sure the dirt isn't helping matters.

    Oiling a dirty chain is the fastest way to wear it out. The first thing to do is to take a 12"
    ruler and measure a straight run of your chain along 24 links from rivet centre to rivet centre.
    Each link is
    1/2" so the 24 should measure 12" exactly. If a run of 24 measures more than 12 1/8" it is worn
    out and needs replacing. The sprockets will almost certainly need replacing too, and possibly
    the chainrings.

    OK, the bike is only 6 months old and hasn't been used dramatically, except in the last 2 months. Is
    it possible it could be worn out in this time?

    Quoted message said:

    Google in this group and in rec.bicycles.tech for chain maintenance. Also read Sheldon Brown on
    the topic. The problem with Sheldon's pages, however, is that they are so rich in irresistible
    links that it's very hard not to get sidetracked for about 3 hours. :-)

    OK thanks for the information. I'll take a look.

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    when they have to say something.

  6. "StainlessSteelRat" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    OK, so it's not so much a noisy chain but I find that the chain and sprockets on the derailleur
    (sorry I don't know the posh name!) seem rather noisy (clattery?), for lack of a better word(s).

    That sounds more like adjustment than anything else. This is what's known as a "Sheldon Crisis" -
    you point your browser at sheldonbrown.comsheldonbrown.com and the image of a benign-looking gentleman
    who embodies the pinnacle of (cycling) wisdom of his age will appear to reassure you that this, too,
    has been foreseen, and there are detailed instructions on how to proceed from here.

    Sorry, posting under the influence of Dr Asmiov again...

    Quoted message said:

    On this basis I was after maintenance ideas for the chain at least, and ideally the rest of the
    system. How often should I be oiling and greasing, and what should I oil and grease?

    For a good solid book on practical maintenance, see if you can find a second-hand copy of Richard's
    Bicycle Book by Richard Ballantine. The 21st Century Bicycle Book is more readable, but less
    helpful. The original has lots of pictures by John Batchelor and some nice clear instructions.

    My rule of thumb, though, is: oil anything that looks oily, and grease anything that looks greasy
    :-) Never get WD40 within forty feet of a bike (it dissolves grease), and never oil a chain without
    cleaning it first.

    The things I oil weekly are: the derailleur idler spindles, derailleur pivots (front and rear), and
    brake pivots. I use wax-based lubricant so hardly ever clean the chain, but if you do need to clean
    the chain the Sheldon Shake is the Approved Method (see Sheldon's page on chains). Trust me: shaking
    your chain in a plastic bottle full of citrus degreaser and then rinsing it under a tap will do it a
    world of good.

    I used to clean the chains frequently before I used wax, now I hardly ever do. I strip, clean and
    grease any cup and cone bearings (wheels, headsets) once a year, and I wipe excess crud from the
    frame at least twice a year, whether it needs it or not. After a muddy ride on the MTB I hose it
    down, apply a liberal coating of oil to the rust-prone bits and store in a cool dry bike shed.

    Quoted message said:

    I oil the chain once a month or so with TF2 (lubricant spray with Teflon) but it attracts a lot of
    dirt (even though it is wiped down after oiling). I'm sure the dirt isn't helping matters.

    Yes, the anti-fling oil-based lubricants attract [censored] like nothing on earth. That's why I use wax
    (White Lightning Raceday, since you asked). It needs frequent reapplication, but it doesn't turn
    into grinding paste.

    These views may be held to be controversial :-)

    Guy

  7. (Guy Chapman) said:

    I use wax-based lubricant

    I need a new bottle of lube and have been considering trying a wax one. Which do you use Guy?

    Bob
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    Mail address is spam trapped To reply by email remove the beverage

  8. StainlessSteelRat said:
    Sandy Morton said:
    Quoted message said:

    OK, so it's not so much a noisy chain but I find that the chain and sprockets on the derailleur
    (sorry I don't know the posh name!) seem rather noisy (clattery?), for lack of a better word(s).

    Adjusting the alignment of the chain should help - put the shifters in the central position on
    the front and rear changers and adjust with the small knurled adjuster at the rear until the
    noise stops.

    I am fairly sure it's not an alignment issue (sorry, I should have mentioned this). It's simply
    that the running of the chain through the derailleur sprockets and perhaps the chain itself are
    just particularly noisy at the moment. Hence I was wondering if something needs some additional
    maintenance.

    After a bit of maintenance (took chain off, stripped rear mech down etc) I put it all back together
    and found things very clattery. I'd routed the chain the wrong side of the tab on the rear mech that
    forms part of the cage. How stupid is that?

    Tim
    --

    fast and gripping, non pompous, glossy and credible.

  9. Call me Bob said:
    Quoted message said:

    I use wax-based lubricant

    Quoted message said:

    I need a new bottle of lube and have been considering trying a wax one. Which do you use Guy?

    White Lightning Raceday. It's a bit less clean that standard WL but seems to last a bit longer in
    wet weather. I'm working on the assumption that the weather will stay dry until I put summer lube on
    and leave my waterproof at home.

    Guy
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    dynamic DNS permitting)
    NOTE: BT Openworld have now blocked port 25 (without notice), so old mail addresses may no longer
    work. Apologies.

  10. Call me Bob said:

    I need a new bottle of lube and have been considering trying a wax one.

    Most are extremely expensive considering they cost £5 or £10 for a little tiny bottle that doesn't
    last long. I seriously wonder if it wouldn't be cheaper to buy a new chain every few weeks!

    I included some notes on Castrol/Halfords Chain Wax in my reply to the "Best way to clean
    chain" thread.

    ~PB

  11. "Pete Biggs" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Most are extremely expensive considering they cost £5 or £10 for a little tiny bottle that doesn't
    last long. I seriously wonder if it wouldn't be cheaper to buy a new chain every few weeks!

    I generally get two to three months' worth out of a bottle of WL Raceday, maintaining nine lengths
    of chain on five bikes, with one or two bikes being used daily. But I will investigate cheaper chain
    wax, especially for summer use.

  12. you know? said:

    White Lightning Raceday. It's a bit less clean that standard WL but seems to last a bit longer in
    wet weather.

    Thanks, I'll give it a try, see how I find it.

    Thanks also Pete for the tip about the Halfords/Castrol stuff. The only trouble I can see is I'm
    going to have to clean my chain before trying the wax. Maintenance? On the hack? Pfft!

    Bob
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  13. On Wed, 23 Apr 2003 21:03:52 +0100, contributor Tim Hall had scribed:

    Quoted message said:

    After a bit of maintenance (took chain off, stripped rear mech down etc) I put it all back
    together and found things very clattery. I'd routed the chain the wrong side of the tab on the
    rear mech that forms part of the cage. How stupid is that?

    BTDTBTTS, just hope nobody else noticed! I found out when I replaced the freehub (unrelated problem)
    a couple weeks after a new chain.

    Gary

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