wind techniques ??

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Jacobe Hazzard said:

Too bad I don't drink beer or eat sausages. Or live in Denmark. Otherwise
it could have been good.

Drink a bottle of Akvavit and stomp on your neighbor's flowers, it's the
next best thing to being there.

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Wed, 21 Apr 2004 00:06:17 GMT, <ZVihc.36863$ru4.35439@attbi_s52>,

Claire Petersky said:

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Give thanks and acknowledgement to the tail winds you do get.

Our Father, who art in velodrome, Hallowed be thy chain.

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Quoted message said:

I only knew the Mountain bikers' Version:

Our Father, which art in Moab,

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Now way out here they have a name for rain and wind and fire
The rain is Tess, the fire's Joe and they call the wind Maria
Maria blows the star around and sets the clouds a-flyin'
Maria makes the mountains sound like folks was out there dyin'

Maria, Maria

They call the wind Maria
.. . .
- Frederick Loewe & Alan Jay Lerner
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Zoot Katz said:

They call the wind Maria

That's "Mariah" (muh-RYE-uh), not Maria (mu-REE-uh).
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Terry Morse said:

Zoot Katz said:

They call the wind Maria

That's "Mariah" (muh-RYE-uh), not Maria (mu-REE-uh).
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please. stop. 1969. burning. ears.

ob.r.b.m: i call the wind prairie dirt stuck in my teeth.

It's very windy in illinois dotay, but i think i don't want to get
whacked by a T-storm in the middle of nowhere, or sucked away by a
tornado, ala 'zardoz, so i'm going to stay here.

..max
which is when my 2nd grade sister, mariah, got the damn record.

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Moi worte:

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It's very windy in illinois dotay, but i think i don't want to get
whacked by a T-storm [...] or sucked away by a tornado,

This got me to thinking...

I have two bikes - a commuting-rigged MTB, with a big blackburn rack and
bungies etc, and a road bike (trek 1220) w/ only water, computer and
seat bag, i.e. no rack.

One of my issues with road rides on days like today -- very threatening
weather, quite windy -- is that i really hate getting stuck in BuFu w/o
weather gear. But I also hate riding w/ a backpack or courrier bag, at
least for more than 10~20 miles.

So, how many of you have put racks on the back of your road bikes,
specifically so you can extend your foul weather radius? Part of me
thinks it's like putting curb feelers on a Porsche. I suppose i could
yank it off when i wasn't using it.... On the plus side, i s'pose it
could dramatically extend my self-supported ride range, esp on those
100+ F summer days...

..max

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[email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

Moi worte:

Quoted message said:

It's very windy in illinois dotay, but i think i don't want to get
whacked by a T-storm [...] or sucked away by a tornado,

This got me to thinking...

I have two bikes - a commuting-rigged MTB, with a big blackburn rack and
bungies etc, and a road bike (trek 1220) w/ only water, computer and
seat bag, i.e. no rack.

One of my issues with road rides on days like today -- very threatening
weather, quite windy -- is that i really hate getting stuck in BuFu w/o
weather gear. But I also hate riding w/ a backpack or courrier bag, at
least for more than 10~20 miles.

A large [censored] pack will often serve to carry a crushable windbreaker,
rain jacket or something similar, and is a lot more comfortable than
even the smallest back pack.

Quoted message said:

So, how many of you have put racks on the back of your road bikes,
specifically so you can extend your foul weather radius? Part of me

I do.

Quoted message said:

thinks it's like putting curb feelers on a Porsche. I suppose i could

Except that a rack actually helps something <GGG>.

Quoted message said:

yank it off when i wasn't using it.... On the plus side, i s'pose it
could dramatically extend my self-supported ride range, esp on those
100+ F summer days...

For water/drink? You can get double bottle holders which attach
directly to the back of your saddle, and your wedgie bag will carry a
few snacks.

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Max said:

One of my issues with road rides on days like today -- very
threatening weather, quite windy -- is that i really hate getting
stuck in BuFu w/o weather gear. But I also hate riding w/ a backpack
or courrier bag, at least for more than 10~20 miles.

So, how many of you have put racks on the back of your road bikes,
specifically so you can extend your foul weather radius? Part of me
thinks it's like putting curb feelers on a Porsche. I suppose i
could yank it off when i wasn't using it.... On the plus side, i
s'pose it could dramatically extend my self-supported ride range, esp
on those 100+ F summer days...

Raingear should fit in a large underseat bag w/ no problem. You can get some
really lightweight, crushable rain gear these days. If it's warm out, you
probably don't need rain pants.

I hate that you can't put racks or fenders on most modern bikes. It's not too
difficult to take them off and on, and it's sure handy when you need them.
There's no downside to a little more clearance and a few eyelets, other than
going against minimalist style. I guess it's a good opportunity to sell you
another bike, when you discover you'd like to have this stuff!

Matt O.

On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 18:27:31 GMT, Max <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

One of my issues with road rides on days like today -- very threatening
weather, quite windy -- is that i really hate getting stuck in BuFu w/o
weather gear. But I also hate riding w/ a backpack or courrier bag, at
least for more than 10~20 miles.

BuFu? As in "By Us, [censored] U"? 😉

Quoted message said:

So, how many of you have put racks on the back of your road bikes,
specifically so you can extend your foul weather radius? Part of me
thinks it's like putting curb feelers on a Porsche. I suppose i could
yank it off when i wasn't using it.... On the plus side, i s'pose it
could dramatically extend my self-supported ride range, esp on those
100+ F summer days...

I'm going to put a rack on my road bike; see this recent thread:
http://groups.google.com/groups?&threadm=cik6701hljtfg94o1imvddvq8c7qc6a49l%404ax.com

I expect to leave the rack on and remove the basket when I don't
think I'll use it.
--
Rick Onanian

Max said:

So, how many of you have put racks on the back of your road bikes,
specifically so you can extend your foul weather radius? Part of me

I've got racks on all three of my bikes: 2 road bikes and 1 MTB.

Of course one of the road bikes is a touring bike, so isn't at
all a Porsche with curb feelers, but my Trek 2000 probably is.

The rack on that bike is a very light duty one. The older kind
with the mouse trap sort of swing door on top to help lock in
whatever you're carrying.

When I do a long distance group ride over several days, I'll even
put a rack trunk on it. Very much the Porsche with curb feelers
then.

I don't actually have to have the rack for general, local "joy"
use. I have one of those foul weather jackets/pants that roll
up into their own pockets, and can then be clipped around your
waist like a [censored] pack.

But I really don't like things attached to me while I ride, and
I end up wedging it under the trap door of the rack anyways.

I don't see any problem with doing this. But then, I'm very much
a "Fred", with bike style opinions deserving of derision.

SMH

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Quoted message said:

I don't actually have to have the rack for general, local "joy"
use. I have one of those foul weather jackets/pants that roll
up into their own pockets, and can then be clipped around your
waist like a [censored] pack.

But I really don't like things attached to me while I ride, and
I end up wedging it under the trap door of the rack anyways.

I don't see any problem with doing this. But then, I'm very much
a "Fred", with bike style opinions deserving of derision.

So you would be welcome in our "Team Fred". Now if I could just find a
good club jersey for it <GGG>.

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"Max" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

So, how many of you have put racks on the back of your road bikes,
specifically so you can extend your foul weather radius? Part of me
thinks it's like putting curb feelers on a Porsche. I suppose i could
yank it off when i wasn't using it.... On the plus side, i s'pose it
could dramatically extend my self-supported ride range, esp on those
100+ F summer days...

You can get Q/R-equipped seatpost racks that are good for 25 lb. You can also
get bags that attach to the saddle directly. I leave my fenders on all the
time, and add a seatpost rack when I'm doing distance.

One tip not mentioned so far:

Learn the skills necessary to safely ride in a paceline, and then take a few
friends along to "share the work".

Chris Neary
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"Science, freedom, beauty, adventure: what more could
you ask of life? Bicycling combined all the elements I
loved" - Adapted from a quotation by Charles Lindbergh

Claire Petersky said:

I only knew the Mountain bikers' Version:

Our Father, which art in Moab,
Mountain Bike be Thy name.
To Thy trailheads we come,
Thy maintenance be done,
On fire road
As it is on singletrack.
Give us this day our daily ride,
And forgive us our trespasses
As we forgive those that trespass on us.

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It's good to see they managed to do something with the trespass line.
I tried for a decently long while, and couldn't figure out anything
to do with it that was better than leaving it alone.

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Dane Jackson - z u v e m b i @ u n i x b i g o t s . o r g
"2) Users don't know what they really want, but they know for
certain what they don't want."
- Manubay's Laws for Programmers

Max said:

So, how many of you have put racks on the back of your road bikes,
specifically so you can extend your foul weather radius?

Well, I don't have a "road" (racing) bike. I do most of my recreational
riding on my touring bike.

That said, I've got handlebar bags on almost every bike I own. They
take care of rain gear stowage, plus snacks, maps, tools, extra clothes,
and most anything else I might want to carry. (Camera, notepad,
binoculars, rocks...)

Oddly, the touring bike is the only one _without_ a rear rack. I've got
them on my commuter, my mountain bike, our tandem, & the folder. Oh, I
forgot - the seldom-used antique is naked. No bags, no racks.

One riding buddy of mine was notorious for showing up for a ride on his
new racing bike, then asking others (usually me) to carry his jacket.
Eventually, the ribbing he endured got him to install at least a seat
bag. Funny thing is, his belly weighed many times what a rack would!

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