Tyler's back

"psycholist" wrote...

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Anyone notice Tyler's back as he got into the team car? Bruises all up

the

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left side of his spine defining the position of each rib. It really

looked

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like it had to be serious. Well, that goes without saying. For Tyler to
pull out, it had to be really serious.

Armstrong's win is tempered by Hamilton's abandoning. It's a sad day.

"Jim Flom" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3ObKc.61460$eO.57535@edtnps89...

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"psycholist" wrote...

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Anyone notice Tyler's back as he got into the team car? Bruises all up

the

Quoted message said:

left side of his spine defining the position of each rib. It really

looked

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like it had to be serious. Well, that goes without saying. For Tyler to
pull out, it had to be really serious.

Armstrong's win is tempered by Hamilton's abandoning. It's a sad day.

It really is. Hamilton looked into his suitcase of courage and
found only a couple of old receipts and a stray missing button.

Mike

Michael said:

"Jim Flom" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3ObKc.61460$eO.57535@edtnps89...

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"psycholist" wrote...

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Anyone notice Tyler's back as he got into the team car? Bruises all up

the

Quoted message said:

left side of his spine defining the position of each rib. It really

looked

Quoted message said:

like it had to be serious. Well, that goes without saying. For Tyler to
pull out, it had to be really serious.

Armstrong's win is tempered by Hamilton's abandoning. It's a sad day.

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It really is. Hamilton looked into his suitcase of courage and
found only a couple of old receipts and a stray missing button.

The bruises told the tale. He said his back was useless for climbing.
Sherwen explained why Tyler spends so much time in a supine position
during races...

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Mike

Michael said:

"Jim Flom" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3ObKc.61460$eO.57535@edtnps89...

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"psycholist" wrote...

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Anyone notice Tyler's back as he got into the team car? Bruises all up

the

Quoted message said:

left side of his spine defining the position of each rib. It really

looked

Quoted message said:

like it had to be serious. Well, that goes without saying. For Tyler to
pull out, it had to be really serious.

Armstrong's win is tempered by Hamilton's abandoning. It's a sad day.

It really is. Hamilton looked into his suitcase of courage and
found only a couple of old receipts and a stray missing button.

Mike

That's beeoooteeful, man!! (sniff)

Steve

In article <[email hidden]>,

Clovis Lark said:

Michael said:

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"psycholist" wrote...
> Anyone notice Tyler's back as he got into the team car? Bruises all up
the
> left side of his spine defining the position of each rib. It really
looked
> like it had to be serious. Well, that goes without saying. For Tyler
> to
> pull out, it had to be really serious.

Armstrong's win is tempered by Hamilton's abandoning. It's a sad day.

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It really is. Hamilton looked into his suitcase of courage and
found only a couple of old receipts and a stray missing button.

The bruises told the tale. He said his back was useless for climbing.
Sherwen explained why Tyler spends so much time in a supine position
during races...

I thought Sherwen's explanation was...interesting. Or to put it another
way, stupid. Sits too stiffly on the bike or some such? Hamilton clearly
has an appetite for the ground that is either intrinsic to his nature
(does he lose focus when he gets anaerobic?) or pretty far out on the
bell curve of bad luck, but Paul's explanation reeked of post-hoc
reasoning.

As a counterexample, I note that Armstrong hardly ever falls off his
bike because of his supple, high-cadence pedalling style. And Ullrich
because his earring is full of fairy dust which makes him float over
problems.

--
Ryan Cousineau, [email hidden] http://www.wiredcola.com
President, Fabrizio Mazzoleni Fan Club

Clovis Lark said:

Michael said:

"Jim Flom" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3ObKc.61460$eO.57535@edtnps89...

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"psycholist" wrote...

>Anyone notice Tyler's back as he got into the team car? Bruises all up

the

>left side of his spine defining the position of each rib. It really

looked

>like it had to be serious. Well, that goes without saying. For Tyler to
>pull out, it had to be really serious.

Armstrong's win is tempered by Hamilton's abandoning. It's a sad day.

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It really is. Hamilton looked into his suitcase of courage and
found only a couple of old receipts and a stray missing button.

The bruises told the tale. He said his back was useless for climbing.
Sherwen explained why Tyler spends so much time in a supine position
during races...

Same affliction of McGee. Injured back, unable to get power to the legs.

"psycholist" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Anyone notice Tyler's back as he got into the team car? Bruises all up

the

Quoted message said:

left side of his spine defining the position of each rib. It really

looked

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like it had to be serious. Well, that goes without saying. For Tyler to
pull out, it had to be really serious.

Didn't they interview Tyler the other day as he got out of an acupunct
treatment?

"Ryan Cousineau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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In article <[email hidden]>,

As a counterexample, I note that Armstrong hardly ever falls off his
bike because of his supple, high-cadence pedalling style. And Ullrich
because his earring is full of fairy dust which makes him float over
problems.

Tyler probably can't feel the balance of the bike unless he is looking
straight ahead. This has started to happen to me recently as well and I've
gone down a couple of times when I was looking sideways and went over a
relatively mild bump. Alex Zulle had similar problems as well.

If you watch Lance he very seldom takes his eyes off of straight forward.
Since he is focused entirely on riding the bike he doesn't miss potholes and
so he doesn't lose it often.

Ullrich is frightened of decending at racing speed.

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"psycholist" wrote...

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Anyone notice Tyler's back as he got into the team car? Bruises all

up

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the

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left side of his spine defining the position of each rib. It really

looked

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like it had to be serious. Well, that goes without saying. For Tyler

to

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pull out, it had to be really serious.

Armstrong's win is tempered by Hamilton's abandoning. It's a sad day.

It really is. Hamilton looked into his suitcase of courage and
found only a couple of old receipts and a stray missing button.

Mike

Yeah, except that Lance has no "suitcase of compassion" and does not give a
[censored]. If you want to know how much Lance cares about his friend's
performance, go back to look at the post race report for America's first win
in a "monument" (top 5 classic and World Cup race, Liege-Bastogne-Liege ).
Lance did not even hang around to congratule him and left before the award
presentation.

"Ryan Cousineau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:rcousine-

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I thought Sherwen's explanation was...interesting. Or to put it another
way, stupid. Sits too stiffly on the bike or some such? Hamilton clearly
has an appetite for the ground that is either intrinsic to his nature
(does he lose focus when he gets anaerobic?) or pretty far out on the
bell curve of bad luck, but Paul's explanation reeked of post-hoc
reasoning.

Paul likes to have theories. I guess he was trained to provide a theory for
everything he can think of.

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As a counterexample, I note that Armstrong hardly ever falls off his
bike because of his supple, high-cadence pedalling style. And Ullrich
because his earring is full of fairy dust which makes him float over
problems.

I like it. Funny.

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--
Ryan Cousineau, [email hidden] http://www.wiredcola.com
President, Fabrizio Mazzoleni Fan Club

"Tom Kunich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"Ryan Cousineau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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In article <[email hidden]>,

As a counterexample, I note that Armstrong hardly ever falls off his
bike because of his supple, high-cadence pedalling style. And Ullrich
because his earring is full of fairy dust which makes him float over
problems.

Tyler probably can't feel the balance of the bike unless he is looking
straight ahead. This has started to happen to me recently as well and I've
gone down a couple of times when I was looking sideways and went over a
relatively mild bump. Alex Zulle had similar problems as well.

Guess what? Both of those riders are dependant on prescription Oakleys. Most
guys can remove them in the rain but they can't. I would guess that accounts
for a great many of the accidents those 2 seem to go through. I know that
Zulle crashed out while winning a Vuelta and another year crashed out of the
Tour while racing with a surgically repaired collarbone. The surgery was
required if he was going to make it to the start of the Tour.

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If you watch Lance he very seldom takes his eyes off of straight forward.
Since he is focused entirely on riding the bike he doesn't miss potholes

and

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so he doesn't lose it often.

Ullrich is frightened of decending at racing speed.

I don't really have any theories for these guys. I just know that there is a
huge range in the handling skills of cyclists of all levels. Some fall all
the time, others never seem to fall while most lie somewhere in the middle.

Tom Kunich said:

Ullrich is frightened of decending at racing speed.

No evidence of that coming off the wet Aspin:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/2004/tour04/?id=results/livecomp12

16:24 CEST 172.5km/25km to go
Virenque charges but it's Rasmussen who takes the points. It looks like Moreau was second with a nice bike throw, and Virenque third.
Chavanel is last wheel of the front group over the top. Hamilton is a fair way towards the back of the peloton. Now for the descent...

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16:30 CEST 177/5km/20.5km to go
The descent is now over and it's Rasmussen with a small lead over Moreau at the bottom. No crashes in the peloton, it looks like.

16:31 CEST
Ullrich is chasing in the first group with Casar and Voeckler and five others. One US Postal rider is there, but it's not Armstrong, who is another 10 seconds back in the peloton. Three Posties are towing Armstrong back to the first chase group.